# First order arrived: Instant Openness smells like pee to me, can I cover it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 16, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698 "2007-05-16T14:34:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/9 "2007-05-21T20:11:45Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Ammo v1.5 is a version that contains some TAA. In fact I only add instant shine as a rule to v1.0, except for my rock star mix where I added shine anyway… > [@nbully79](#): > > I guess I was wrong all along. I thought Ammo 1.0 was -Androstenol, none and TAA and Ammo 1.5 was with added -Androsterone. I think I got that info from one of Michael’s post. > I have been spreading that info to so many newbies I feel guilty about it. I apologize to anyone who was misinformed!🙂 I think you got it from this quote: > [@MHarris](#): > > v1.5 does indeed more Alpha Androstenol than 1.0 In fact Jasmin had mentioned the shiney aspect of v1.5! here’s the quote: > [@Jasmin](#): > > v1.5 being more “Shiney” and v1.0 being more sexy Lor mentioned it too! > [@Lor](#): > > now, if the 1.0 has 'Androsterone where 1.5 doesnt (i heard that somewhere 😕 ) then i would definately have to get both. 'Androsterone is not to be underestimated,lol. > a guy wearing 'Androsterone is pretty much the boss of me. > id like to say though that the 1.5 _is_ shiny, i have always maintained the anti-depressant feeling that goes with it, but its still _way_ sexier than just [instant shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) alone . And Lor was wrong too as both have the -rone… but in different doses… --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698)._