# First order of Instant Female Magic smells of urine: is that normal? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 16, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158 "2007-06-16T17:05:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2007, 5:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/1 "2007-06-16T17:05:50Z")
I just recieved my first order…Instant female magic and TUTH. The female magic smelled of urine… **is this normal?** but the TUTH, wow, i was really desparate for sex and it was intense for around 30 mins… and this stuff works on women? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mtown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mtown](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mtown)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/2 "2007-07-10T16:33:56Z")
I hope turn up the heat is as good as they say i just order some cant wait til dhl bring its ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 3:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/3 "2007-07-12T03:23:52Z")
IFM smells weird 😉 but not urine (at least In my opinion). I myself like to cover it with other pheros or cologne but people uses it without covering sometimes. TUTH is great for getting things to bed when you have a place and a girl near you but in my opinion it can frighten some girls if you go close to them with a high dose (in my case \>10mcg) and you don’t even met her before. Sometimes it’s like asking for sex without doing it… it can be great if you manage it good but it can be bad and too much demmanding in certain ocassions and doses. You can get kicked by alpha males too, wearing it… hahaha ☹ I suppose you’ve read Basic Camp yet and read about the advantages and disadvantages of sniffing IFM yourself and -none on TUTH on alpha-males. My advice is that you use IFM and TUTH together if you don’t know your target cycle. Girls are normally atracted by people with -none during their ovulation but they aren’t and can get nervous at the end of the cycle, and that is when IFM is really G-R-E-A-T. Anyway you should test your pheros firstly one each time (so you can’t understand each one’s effect sepparately) and using them in other girls (do not test with your final-target until you have found how they work) ---
**Author:** ![Quicksilver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/quicksilver/32/1328_2.png) [@Quicksilver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Quicksilver)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/4 "2007-07-12T03:26:26Z")
> [@HABIB001](#): > > the TUTH, wow, i was really desparate for sex and it was intense for around 30 mins… and this stuff works on women? 😃 Question: how many sprays did you use? I didn’t know a man could have that strong of a reaction to TUTH. I’m still waiting to get mine 🙄. Cheers, 🆒 Quicksilver ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/5 "2007-07-12T04:07:51Z")
I get a little hot with TUTH if in the right context, found sex more exciting, too. Wasn’t here a thread a time ago that asked if -none got you hot? Maybe he used more than he should, and it was first time that was exposed to -none and he was more sensitive to it, join that with a little suggestion and that is, in my opinion. Anyway, sometimes i get a little hot with TUTH, too.😉 ---
**Author:** ![HABIB001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/habib001/32/2159_2.png) [@HABIB001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HABIB001)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 12:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/6 "2007-07-12T12:06:10Z")
Turn Up The Heat— i only used 2 sprays of the stuff and it was my first time, and i was gagging for sex, 😉 i did get sex as well, but with some one i already have casual sex with any way, so i guess that doesnt count. (no i do not pay for sex).😉 ---
**Author:** ![ProtoJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7feea3/32.png) [@ProtoJay](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ProtoJay)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2007, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/7 "2007-07-12T22:08:58Z")
> [@HABIB001](#): > > Turn Up The Heat— i only used 2 sprays of the stuff and it was my first time, and i was gagging for sex, 😉 i did get sex as well, but with some one i already have casual sex with any way, so i guess that doesnt count. (no i do not pay for sex).😉 Ive used 8 sprays before (20mcg) and havent noticed any stronger urges for sex… At the high doses, your confidence and aggressiveness may come to the forefront of your personality… but it seems to affect others more than me… maybe im pheroblind… One thing I noticed is A314 has a really nice soothing smell, its almost quintesentially relaxing and reassuring… ---
**Author:** ![ogt192](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ogt192/32/657_2.png) [@ogt192](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ogt192)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 6:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/8 "2007-07-31T06:26:57Z")
> [@capone](#): > > Anyway you should test your pheros firstly one each time (so you can’t understand each one’s effect sepparately) and using them in other girls (do not test with your final-target until you have found how they work) Hey capone, so if I have been spraying [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) around this girl that I thought was already attracted to me, is there a possibility that the pheros turned her off? There are a lot of other factors too, and I don’t think I used to much anything bad. But she has been becoming more distant. Just a thought ---
**Author:** ![capone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/capone/32/587_2.png) [@capone](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/capone)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/9 "2007-07-31T14:38:50Z")
> [@ogt192](#): > > Hey capone, so if I have been spraying pheromones around this girl that I thought was already attracted to me, is there a possibility that the pheros turned her off? > > There are a lot of other factors too, and I don’t think I used to much anything bad. But she has been becoming more distant. Just a thought If she already knew you when you started using pheros there’s very little possibility that you changed his impression of you with pheros… maybe she’s stressed, dissapointed, maybe she has a bf and wants to keep distance because she likes you… although a possibility to change the impression by changhing your phero vibe and behaviour, it’s very difficult to change a impression created through time in my opinion, even with pheros. ---
**Author:** ![alpha314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha314/32/2027_2.png) [@alpha314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha314)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/10 "2007-07-31T18:20:06Z")
> [@ogt192](#): > > Hey capone, so if I have been spraying pheromones around this girl that I thought was already attracted to me, is there a possibility that the pheros turned her off? > > There are a lot of other factors too, and I don’t think I used to much anything bad. But she has been becoming more distant. Just a thought If you have not previously used it as a standalone then just go for a couple of sprays of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) when you plan on being around her. She may pick up on the comforting effect noticed when you are around close. I realise you have used IFM in the past, I find it works wonders when it is perservered with. ---
**Author:** ![ogt192](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ogt192/32/657_2.png) [@ogt192](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ogt192)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2007, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/11 "2007-08-01T07:02:49Z")
Thanks to both you guys, I’m gonna try going for about a week with 4 sprays a day of IFM in class. Is that too much, can I go for more. And I have a military board tomorrow. Think I’m just gonna put on 1-2 drops of A314 for it. It’s not an important board, so I’m not worrying about it. Just gonna try it out. ---
**Author:** ![alpha314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha314/32/2027_2.png) [@alpha314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha314)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2007, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/12 "2007-08-01T12:37:14Z")
> [@ogt192](#): > > Thanks to both you guys, I’m gonna try going for about a week with 4 sprays a day of Instant Female Magic in class. Is that too much, can I go for more. > > And I have a military board tomorrow. Think I’m just gonna put on 1-2 drops of A314 for it. It’s not an important board, so I’m not worrying about it. Just gonna try it out. Seeing as you will be close to the girl i would settle for the amount of IFM you have decided upon, if she needs a soothing influence then that amount should be sufficient. Its funny in a way because when i first started using A314 i got the impression that is was crap and one of the least effective products i had used. Now i have 2 x 15 ml bottles of A 314 that have only about 1/4 left in each, As my perception of the product has had a rather dramatic turn around as where i was wearing 4 drops i have since found that 2 drops work really well for me. If some thought goes into it then it is exceedingly effective when used in a mix, Although it should be taken into account that it does contain an amount of Androstenone that is weighed up very nicely in this very well designed creation. For some reason it always seems to score well for me. As i have used it alone and also mixed on occasions where i have decided to keep a low profile and take a back seat prefering not to be noticed, But it has a very uncanny way of projecting me into the spotlight and i would say that for some really unknown reason to me it works the way that many users describe [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). And instant shine really just relaxes me and seems to put me in the groove and make me feel so just so really smooth. If i was a female then the effect would be what i would probably expect from IFM. ---
**Author:** ![ogt192](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ogt192/32/657_2.png) [@ogt192](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ogt192)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/13 "2007-08-01T18:34:34Z")
Ok, thanks alpha. I really want to get A314 to work, with my situation (go to class everyday with the same 6 people all day, not much time to do stuff at night. Hang out with friends on the weekend a lot, but don’t meet new people often) What, in your opinion, would be the best way to figure out the right amount to put on? also w/ the other stuff maybe. thanks for your help. ---
**Author:** ![alpha314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alpha314/32/2027_2.png) [@alpha314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alpha314)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-instant-female-magic-smells-of-urine-is-that-normal/4158/14 "2007-08-01T20:48:34Z")
> [@ogt192](#): > > Ok, thanks alpha. I really want to get A314 to work, with my situation (go to class everyday with the same 6 people all day, not much time to do stuff at night. Hang out with friends on the weekend a lot, but don’t meet new people often) > > What, in your opinion, would be the best way to figure out the right amount to put on? also w/ the other stuff maybe. thanks for your help. With A314 on you may be perceived as a respected high status person and some people will do their very best to please you. Another aspect is that the prescence of the A314 can give the impression that you are high status and therefore those that do not consider themselves as high status will have a tendancy to not approach you as they may get the impression that you are far above their station even so they will still be inclined to bow to your requests and show respect to ya. With A314 i have found 2 drops to suit me, with women looking at me but not approaching, When i instigate conversation with them they usually seem to be somewhat suprised and then they do not want to break of the conversation as it seems as if the A314 effect holds them. Considering that you are hanging on a regular basis with this group i would suggest you change your choice of pheromone every few days and not go into too much mixing until the unique character of each product is understood when applied by you in the field tests. I notice the most dramatic effects from my applications from those that do not know me so well. Close friends or aquaintances who already have had their mindset on me are not influenced to change their opinion of me so fast by the phero use. Even so amoungst this group i still have noticed my pheromone applications having favourable effects on their behavior towards me. Most of the females who know me now regard me as more sexy and Alpha, Probably because of the Androstenone i have been wearing in their prescence for so long. ( as i am low on natural Androstenone a little added Raw Power works wonders for me. Anyway do go for couple drops A314 alone for few days. And apply the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) in a separate area if using as well.