# First order of IO, IFM and TUTH: which combination to ask out a girl I like? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 24, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822 "2007-05-24T01:37:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Standard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Standard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Standard)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/1 "2007-05-24T01:37:32Z")
Hi, I just bought Instant Openess, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and Turn up the heat. There is two situations I want to use these on but unsure of the combinations I should use, here’s my situation… 1. There’s this girl I like, I’ve spoken to her on two occasions so far, once at a friend’s party (where we both met) and then at a game of poker - which I won with without any sunnies. Friend of mine was sussing her out for me, and he said she thinks of me as a “nice guy” who isn’t like the other “introverts” who works in “IT”. I don’t want to just slip into her “just friends” category. We will be going to bowling on the 31st and I’m planning to ask her out to a movie, so I’m thinking my combination should be Instant Female Magic and Turn up the heat? 2. I recently joined the mentoring programme in the company I work for. And surprisingly I got a woman in her 40s who is on the executive board (I’m in my 20s). I hear from others that she can open a lot of doors for people who are on her good side and close a lot of doors for people who are on her bad side. There is no “neutral” side for her and not many people ends up in her good side. So I was thinking about using Instant Openess and Instant Female Magic here. What do you guys think? ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/2 "2007-05-24T02:09:56Z")
hi standard, first things first / what pheromones do you currently have? which have you used and how did they effect you and those around you? ---
**Author:** ![Standard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Standard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Standard)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/3 "2007-05-24T02:13:11Z")
Hi me (feels like I’m talking to myself). I have never used pheromones before, this is my first time. I just purchased [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Turn up the heat and Instant Openness and they’ll be here in about 4 to 10 days (International Express), I’m really hoping it’s 8 days or less coz that’s when bowling starts 🙂 I know pheromones won’t do everything for me, but I just need that edge. ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 2:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/4 "2007-05-24T02:44:53Z")
well i’m no expert but i’m thinking for the girl you want to date start with a lot of thei nstant openness first with a little female magic. spray 2 shots of female magic to the back of your head with maybe four to five of openness to your throat forearms and chest. next date increase the female magic a spray or two.i always put female magic on the back of my head because it makes me to mello and little depressed if i breath it from the front. save the turn up the heat for after you really know each other and she has gotten really comfortable with you.NOW ITS TIME TO ADD ONE OR TWO SPRAYS OF TURN UP THE HEAT. for your 40 year old co worker pretty much the same method with what you have. really you proly need some a314 and instant shine to influence her AGAIN I M NO EXPERT HOPEFULLY SOME ONE ELSE WITH MORE EXPERIENCE CAN GIVE YOU SOME IMPUT. GOOD LUCK AND LET EVERY KNOW ABOUT YOUR PHERO MIXES AND EXPERIENCES ---
**Author:** ![Standard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/49beb7/32.png) [@Standard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Standard)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/5 "2007-05-24T06:33:32Z")
Thanks me, following your advice I just placed an order for A314, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and also Ammo 🙂 I’ll let you know how it goes. ---
**Author:** ![tye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d6d6ee/32.png) [@tye](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tye)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/6 "2007-05-24T22:03:32Z")
Grreat!!! Looks Like A Very Solid Line Up Of [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). You’re Sure To Enjoy All These. Please Let Every One Know How They Work For You And Which Ones You Like Best ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/7 "2007-06-13T00:04:31Z")
Don’t forget the IFM! ---
**Author:** ![SEXYMONE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SEXYMONE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SEXYMONE)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/8 "2007-06-15T15:07:20Z")
Hi, I’m bran newbie! I would like to know if these products have a cologne smell to them? I tried pherlure and boy was that an offensive smell.. I tried it once and sent it back rush delivery! I can’t use anything that has a strong cologne smell. Can someone let me know? ---
**Author:** ![SEXYMONE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SEXYMONE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SEXYMONE)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/9 "2007-06-15T15:09:21Z")
I wanted to clarify that I am asking about Androtics products and if they smell cologne-ee ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/10 "2007-06-15T15:26:12Z")
> [@SEXYMONE](#): > > I wanted to clarify that I am asking about Androtics products and if they smell cologne-ee About the only Androtics product I know of that is really “cologne-ee” would be Ammunition. It’s designed as a cologne product. Turn Up The Heat has, to me, a fairly strong cover scent as well (to help cover the androstenone). Most all others (can) come with a “cover” scent, usually neroli (orange/citrus), but it’s pretty light. The scent packages are generally an option you can select when you order and if I recall you can get totally added-fragrance free, light neroli, somewhat heavy neroli, and in some cases a “herbal” scent package (eg IFM offers the herbal clary sage scent). IME the neroli fades relatively fast and can be covered with other scents. The IFM herbal can be detected for a while and can “seep through” other covers. I have only tried TUTH a couple times and can’t say for sure about that scent package, although it was noticable and seemed to last a while (and IMO could contribute to a “scent clash” with other products). Ammunition hits me about the same as most other commercial colognes in strength and duration. The scents will stick around longer if products are applied to clothing rather than skin. ---
**Author:** ![SEXYMONE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@SEXYMONE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SEXYMONE)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2007, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-of-io-ifm-and-tuth-which-combination-to-ask-out-a-girl-i-like/3822/11 "2007-06-17T03:12:30Z")
Thank’s for your reply. I spoke to Jasmin (who is a total sweetheart) the other day and she was able to give me info on some of the products. I ended up ordering “Instant shine” and am awaiting it’s arrival. I will post a testimonial upon trying the product.