# First P79 bottle smells like tequila: what dose do P74 and P79 need?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 3, 2007, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-p79-bottle-smells-like-tequila-what-dose-do-p74-and-p79-need/4936 "2007-08-03T14:29:32Z")\
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**Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-p79-bottle-smells-like-tequila-what-dose-do-p74-and-p79-need/4936/9 "2007-09-11T12:07:17Z")

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> [@DrSmellThis](#):
>
> FYI, I believe it was P74 that people said to use at 25mcg. Recommended dosages for P79 have yet to be spoken about, though I have noticed some improvement with one 10mcg spray added to a mix.
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> It’s weird, but I haven’t noticed much of anything with P74, except I felt more sociable when wearing 20mcg.

> [@nbully79](#):
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> Same here! Not much with P74, P79 on the other hand shows itself very consistently.

**Just a hunch here based on my own experiences, but you may find that [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) works more consistently when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ as opposed to it being used alone.** My experience has been that without these other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, the effects of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) can be a little inconsistent - sometimes it really hits but often it doesn’t. At times, I may find myself not so social while others may be buzzing away (not necessarily to me but to each other). On the other hand when it is combined with other ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’, it hits pretty much every time, for both me and for others around me.

Below are the positive experiences of some guys who combined [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) with various ‘communication-enhancing/social molecules’ - nbully it looks like you combined it with [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) for good effect, examine combined it with [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and [P90](https://pheromonelabs.com/), and UltraGame combined it with CTTM-Mix 2 (which contains Alpha and Beta Androstenol of course).

[TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/1) ([TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/1))  
nbully79 (April 24, 2007):  
“ **TAL and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) - More social than the -nols**  
I am shocked at how much better these make me feel compared to Alpha Androstenol or beta-Androstenol…never a dull moment with these! 1 spray of TAL ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) (5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) and 2-3 sprays of [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) (25-30 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) over [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) + The Edge + PF base…can’t keep my wisecracking mouth shut! Added [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2X around 3 sprays to it (around 50 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) and it was seriously over-the-top . People all around me were ribbing at each other, pulling each others legs and looking in my direction to see if I laughed or not (that [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)!) and nobody took it the wrong way. I was the CENTER of attention.

I got a great response from a friend with whom there were some issues in the past. I had been trying [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and other -nols and avoiding -none to calm her down for about a month or two with no avail.  
But the first time I used [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) together she became very friendly-flirty from being stand-offish in the most amazing turn-around I have witnessed!

Now I find it very hard to drop these from any mixes. The impact of these two together is only rivalled by when I first used [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). It’s really awesome. Something has to be said about female pheros. I am very interested to try [TAH](https://pheromonelabs.com/) next.”

[TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/4) ([TAL and P74 over an A314 base: more social than the -nols](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/tal-and-p74-more-social-than-the-nols/3312/4))  
nbully79 (April 25, 2007):  
“The response from friend who showed a big turnaround was only with TAL ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). The presence of these two is still felt even in my heavy duty phero mix, [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) is -Androsterone dominant, The Edge is -none dominant, PF is -Androstenol dominant. I have very good idea how this mix behaves so adding anything on top, if it has a different reaction, is easy to figure out. These two hardly lay in the background.

Infact yesterday one girl got a proxy hit from my application (presumably [TAL](https://pheromonelabs.com/) at only 5 [mcg](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)). She was sitting about a meter away from me and was getting lots of attention from all other guys in group even though she wasn’t reciprocating to anyone except me. It was definitely not normal for her.

[P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) by itself seems like an ideal mix of Alpha Androstenol + beta-Androstenol to me. Chattiness + connection.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/1)  
examine (March 26, 2007):  
“ **P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm!**  
so i put about 1/3 of each (10mgs) into a TO GO bottle.

this is what you call ULTRA CHARM. damn.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/7](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/7)  
examine (March 26, 2007):  
“…sorry for the ultra summary i had someone at my house.

ok. so i went to a club friday, and created this bottle. 6 sprays to the neck right after i parked…met up with some friends. this mix is like mx105 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) with [spaceland](https://a314.com/). hard to explain. it was subtle at first, but then it all started coming out. women were smiling like this , i danced with another girl that said i was romantic (not sure how), another one of my friends gave me a hug and gave me a kiss on the neck. every time i would dance with someone, it was like they had tabs on me…things started getting a little aggressive. one of my girl friends wanted to buy me a drink, so we left the dance floor and went to the bar, next thing i know one of the girls i danced with earlier came up, said “i was looking for you on the floor, why arent you dancing” then grabbed my hand and we were back on the floor. (my friend called the next day to vent how disrespectful she was)

another one of my friends, that i messed with a long time ago, text me some real deal xxx biz on my phone. i look up and shes at the bar looking in on the dance floor. LOL.

just too much went on, i could go on and on. but it was a successful night , the girl i met and i went on a date sunday afternoon. then this morning i got a text from another girl (which i was too drunk to remember i gave her my number or how she looked) she sent over a pic on my celly..i remember her, she was hot, but looked pretty easy, the fellas picked up on her (yea she was dressed like whoa), and she got lost in the crowd. not sure when my number was givin. i do remember her talking to a friend of mine.

like i said, the [IOIs](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742) were as uplifting, bright, obvious as [Spaceland](https://a314.com/), but [P79](https://pheromonelabs.com/) grabs that energy and turns it into sexuality.

btw the range at this club was 23-33.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/8](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742/8)  
examine (March 26, 2007):  
“as for my attitude, i noticed i was all over the place. i broke out of my shell before the first shot. it was like i was in cancun or rosarito, and i was there to PAAAARTYAAA. notice, you go to a club to party, but when you are on vacation, its much much different _wink_

i didnt have to spit much game, like talk a good one to dance or any other ‘stuff’ it all just flowed, and was quite easy because of such IOIs ([P74/p79/p90: Ultra Charm!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742)). I just played off them.

but thats a rule of mine anyways, you see an [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742) you pounce on that sh\*t like an owl on a jackrabbit.

this was my favorite type of [IOI](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p74-p79-p90-ultra-charm/2742) the whole evening. seeing people do this ( )

i like when people do that. it makes me do it. LOL”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/8](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p79-and-p74/3443/8)  
examine (May 3, 2007):  
“P79 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) + [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) +P90 is what ive been using for the past couple of months.

such a great every day mix.”

[P90: if P74 were IO, P90 would be IH, social but a little more serious](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90/3742/1) ([P90: if P74 were IO, P90 would be IH, social but a little more serious](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p90/3742/1))  
examine (May 18, 2007):  
“If P74 ([Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p74/)) were [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)  
P90 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) would be [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)

its social, but a little more serious, not as much as [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) ([Instant Honesty – Deep Relational Communication Pheromone – You Won’t Believe Your Ears! - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)), but for some reason, there is a sense of comfortable social understanding communication. It’s not wacky, but its as if you and a buddy are sitting down talking politics freely, non chalant over a glass of whiskey.”

[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/experimental-agent-documents-vol-1-ultragame-shares-his-extensive-phero-experience/4219/1)  
UltraGame (June 19, 2007):  
**“Come Talk To Me (Mix 2) PRE-RELEASE:** Should possibly be renamed to CHATTER! _Excellent to mix with P74 ([Experimental Pheromone P74 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p74/)), this will create a super social mix_ and believe me… you will be talked to. The more you use the greater effects you notice, but I have realized it is a quite different feeling to [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). It encourages BS talk!..”

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