# First post. Convinced it works on girls. Any negative reactions from nearby men? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 30, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418 "2012-11-30T16:18:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![KPND](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85f322/32.png) [@KPND](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KPND)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/1 "2012-11-30T16:18:39Z")
Hello everybody. First post. Let me introduce myself. I’m a 27 year old straight guy who is interested in trying this stuff. I just read James V. Kohl’s book last night, which convinced me that human [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) are legitimate. I am convinced it will have a nice effect on women. What about its effect on nearby guys (both friends in your group and other guys out at the bars)? Do other guys get combative? Friendlier? What is the most common effect? ---
**Author:** ![Liquid\_Mind44](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/liquid_mind44/32/1984_2.png) [@Liquid\_Mind44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Liquid_Mind44)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/2 "2012-11-30T16:37:15Z")
> [@KPND](#): > > Hello everybody. First post. Let me introduce myself. I’m a 27 year old straight guy who is interested in trying this stuff. I just read James V. Kohl’s book last night, which convinced me that human pheromones are legitimate. > > I am convinced it will have a nice effect on women. > > What about its effect on nearby guys (both friends in your group and other guys out at the bars)? Do other guys get combative? Friendlier? What is the most common effect? Yo Depends on the [Pheromone](https://a314.com/). If its say A314 then it will cause a trust worthy and respectful vibe among male affiliates and more trust from close friends. Anything -none heavy like tuth, ammo etc and you run risk of aggression from males. What are your thoughts on what you want to achieve around males? As for women then ammo and tuth is exactly the right thing to use. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![KPND](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85f322/32.png) [@KPND](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KPND)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/3 "2012-11-30T16:51:04Z")
> [@Liquid\_Mind44](#): > > Yo > Depends on the Pheromone. > > If its say A314 then it will cause a trust worthy and respectful vibe among male affiliates and more trust from close friends. Anything -none heavy like tuth, ammo etc and you run risk of aggression from males. > > What are your thoughts on what you want to achieve around males? > > As for women then ammo and tuth is exactly the right thing to use. 🆒 Thanks man. I don’t want to have any guys get all excessively alpha on me and get aggressive on me. So, I’d prefer just one that could only affect women, if possible. I am also curious if this could somehow cause other guys to become beta around you, if this chemical cocktail can somehow make them feel inferior to you. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/4 "2012-11-30T16:52:57Z")
If you wear enough of the right combination, or too much of the wrong pheros, guys and indeed almost everyone else will be so shit scared of you that they will never come near you and you will never have a problem getting an order-in at a crowded bar. Its called OD, or ghosting and its an experience - even if only to establish your limits in any given situation. 😉 friends can react strangely to your new phero signature, especially if you use overt None products or the high status A314 and they may find you or your mood difficult to get a handle on for a while (you may find the same yourself) and any existing power structures in your social group might be upset/retested) but after a while it should settle down and be fine, even better than before. Socials like IO, IH can get someone talking and talking till you feel that killing them is the only way to get them to shut-up, so avoid the pub bore when wearing them and IS worn in large doses can leave you feeling a bit tired/drained/burnt out after a few hours but nothing that a bit of rest, good food and electrolyte replenishing drink will restore you. This is why a bit of testing is important, not just to find your most effective dose but to establish your limits for each product in a wider range of situations. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/5 "2012-11-30T16:55:50Z")
> [@KPND](#): > > I am also curious if this could somehow cause other guys to become beta around you, if this chemical cocktail can somehow make them feel inferior to you. There is but for this reason - misuse, its not sold here and mixes using it will not count towards your gaining RU status, which is worthwhile. There are also far better ways/mixes that will get the better of other guys without beating down on them chemically. ---
**Author:** ![KPND](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/85f322/32.png) [@KPND](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KPND)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/6 "2012-11-30T17:01:02Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > None products or the high status A314 and they may find you or your mood difficult to get a handle on for a while (you may find the same yourself) and any existing power structures in your social group might be upset/retested) How did A314 affect your mood? How were your friends different? This is all so wild to me. Seems like it could be a real game changer. I still haven’t purchased one yet. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/7 "2012-11-30T17:18:34Z")
[P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/), about 5 mcgs…men will shun you, not with aggression, but with a apprehensive degree of respect. Happens every time, at least for me. Women tend to notice this and find it fascinating. I find it an effective way to keep the other walking XY chromosomes in the room away from the fertile females. The world is competitive, and P75 makes me a more effective competitor, especially with IS. Where I walk, the women draw near, and the men clear a path. Seen the identical results eight times over this past month. Facts don’t lie. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/8 "2012-11-30T17:43:08Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > P75, about 5 mcgs…men will shun you, not with aggression, but with a apprehensive degree of respect. Happens every time, at least for me. Women tend to notice this and find it fascinating. I find it an effective way to keep the other walking XY chromosomes in the room away from the fertile females. The world is competitive, and P75 makes me a more effective competitor, especially with IS. Where I walk, the women draw near, and the men clear a path. Seen the identical results eight times over this past month. Facts don’t lie. 8 times!? Love it when the TESTING is pushed beyond ONE TRY. Thanks for sharing your findings, MMD. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/9 "2012-12-01T01:54:20Z")
> [@KPND](#): > > Thanks man. I don’t want to have any guys get all excessively alpha on me and get aggressive on me. So, **I’d prefer just one that could only affect women, if possible.** > > I am also curious if this could somehow cause other guys to become beta around you, if this chemical cocktail can somehow make them feel inferior to you. No thats not possible. Every pheromone is going to send a message to both genders, the message is just interpreted different by males and females. For instance, anone products send a signal of strong masculine fertile male and tend to make women aroused and attracted however they tend to make men more competative and aggressive. Finding the correct dosage is key to avoiding problems with other males. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![hypno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9de053/32.png) [@hypno](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hypno)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/10 "2012-12-03T09:36:42Z")
Hi ,when i first started experimenting with the mixes i had many different experiences.The worst was when men got agressive towards me ,a few barged into me at a crowded pub ,i used too much none.lots of iois of women thou. Its all trial and error ,finding your sweet spot. keep testing and good hunting,cheers ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/11 "2012-12-03T13:05:20Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > 8 times!? > > Love it when the TESTING is pushed beyond ONE TRY. > > Thanks for sharing your findings, MMD. 😉 Make it nine with last week’s test. Got one of those WunderHits with IH. I think I’ll test 3 of IS and IH this week–with a half dose of AMMO standard. Female WunderHit example: “I ever tell you 'bout that time my panties wound up as a souvenir on this guy’s rear view mirror?” Women will sometimes confess really deep–and perhaps blush worthy–intimate happenings. Psychologists have shown that shared secrets and personal anecdotes build strong bonds. So, if you get a hit like that off potential LTR material, you counter (as the guy) with something like: “I ever tell you about the 36 hours of missing time…I wake up in a hotel with no clothes, completely naked, no idea how I got there?” ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2012, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-post-convinced-it-works-on-girls-any-negative-reactions-from-nearby-men/57418/12 "2012-12-03T13:11:30Z")
> [@hypno](#): > > The worst was when men got agressive towards me [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) will usually just stun them with the paralytic ray. A useful NONE alternative. With heavy IS, they like you too much to hate you, and, because of that, they’re apprehensive. For reporting benefits, I should add my P75 effects with just it alone at 5 mcg. Female attractant, respect molecule, respect and aversion from men without aggression. Adding IS and socials makes it slightly sexual with women, less abrasive with men.