# First Purchase help **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 17, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167 "2012-07-17T11:56:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 11:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/1 "2012-07-17T11:56:48Z")
Hi I am 18 male looking to make my first purchase and I am torn between two products, AMMO and AMMO Summer Edition. From what I have read summer is a bit more social and not quite as strong i.e. if you use 2 ammo sprays you may need 3 summer for similar effects. I usually like to wear woody fragrances rather than the fresh varieties, often the original version rather than sport for aftershaves. I am thinking of using whichever AMMO for going out not daily wear so which would you recommend? If you have any other suggestions than these two I will happily here them, I just liked the sound of AMMO for its effects. ---
**Author:** ![chress93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5e9695/32.png) [@chress93](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chress93)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/2 "2012-07-17T12:02:28Z")
here’s a link to all of the mones that you can order. All credit goes to Steve > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an… ---
**Author:** ![chress93](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5e9695/32.png) [@chress93](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chress93)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/3 "2012-07-17T12:02:49Z")
hope that helps with your first order! ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/4 "2012-07-17T12:10:19Z")
Unfortunately that page only covers AMMO and the discontinued world edition. I was hoping a few people could maybe give a little personal experience and advice who have tried both summer and original? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/5 "2012-07-17T12:34:00Z")
Have you read the [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) reporting thread? Several of us have put experiences in there. ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/6 "2012-07-17T12:54:42Z")
Yeah I have been through all the posts but I am still unsure. I noticed you have used it with some success with younger women, obviously due to my age I am mainly looking at girls between 18 and 25 so am tempted by the summer edition. However I have also read it is more of a daytime scent unless you mix it, I am planning on using mainly in the evening and for now I only want to purchase one product. These two clashes combined with a lack of prior experience have left me completely stumped on what to pick 😕 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/7 "2012-07-17T13:57:05Z")
> [@ACLD](#): > > Yeah I have been through all the posts but I am still unsure. I noticed you have used it with some success with younger women, obviously due to my age I am mainly looking at girls between 18 and 25 so am tempted by the summer edition. However I have also read it is more of a daytime scent unless you mix it, I am planning on using mainly in the evening and for now I only want to purchase one product. These two clashes combined with a lack of prior experience have left me completely stumped on what to pick 😕 Buy both - damn that was easy!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/8 "2012-07-17T14:53:37Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Buy both - damn that was easy!!! 😃 I wish, tbh I am pushing my current budget with getting the one bottle (I am completely broke after learning to drive). So I am really treating myself with one, I just can’t pay for two as much as I want to. ---
**Author:** ![recl00se](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@recl00se](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/recl00se)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/9 "2012-07-17T15:07:27Z")
If i were you, i would go for the summer edition. If the AMMO effect is what you are looking for, the summer edition would be that and some. ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/10 "2012-07-17T15:24:47Z")
Ok, so which do you use? ---
**Author:** ![recl00se](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@recl00se](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/recl00se)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/11 "2012-07-17T15:31:10Z")
I started with AMMO with great results, but admit that i haven’t used Summer AMMO enough to see a difference. I also haven’t been in an environment where i would want to test the other effects of Summer AMMO. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/12 "2012-07-17T16:12:56Z")
> [@ACLD](#): > > Ok, so which do you use? I’ve used both and am partial to the scent package of the Summer Edition. If both were a regular staple of the store, I’d ALWAYS go for the Summer Edition. 🙂 Results? Both still get me a sexy man bounce in my step. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/13 "2012-07-19T09:45:19Z")
Right since seeing postage cost to UK I have decided to maybe just push the boat out and purchase two, I was planning on ordering a second a few months down the line but this works out cheaper overall. I am definitely ordering [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) but I need to pick no. 2 so -Ammo with Ammo Summer Edition -Ammo with TUTH -Ammo with IS -Ammo with IG Pretty much entirely going to be used when going out to bars/clubs/parties etc and obviously going to want to be picking up girls. A few people have said TUTH may be too much at my age but I thought it might be fun when it comes to sex to kick it up a notch. Any advice would be great! ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/14 "2012-07-19T09:53:25Z")
> [@ACLD](#): > > Right since seeing postage cost to UK I have decided to maybe just push the boat out and purchase two, I was planning on ordering a second a few months down the line but this works out cheaper overall. I am definitely ordering Ammo but I need to pick no. 2 so > -Ammo with Ammo Summer Edition > -Ammo with TUTH > -Ammo with IS > -Ammo with IG > Pretty much entirely going to be used when going out to bars/clubs/parties etc and obviously going to want to be picking up girls. A few people have said TUTH may be too much at my age but I thought it might be fun when it comes to sex to kick it up a notch. > Any advice would be great! If you’re going to use the products mainly for bars/clubs/parties and to pick up girls I would get AMMO Summer Edition and a IO to-go. This way you don’t need to get IS if you’re on a budget. In my opinion IG isn’t sexy enough to use in night time and TUTH isn’t appropriate to use with your age unless the girl is already comfortable with you and in your bed. ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 10:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/15 "2012-07-19T10:12:07Z")
So are you saying summer ammo is the equivalent to ammo + IS? When would you want to use something like IG? ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/16 "2012-07-19T10:25:26Z")
> [@ACLD](#): > > So are you saying summer ammo is the equivalent to ammo + IS? When would you want to use something like IG? AMMO Summer Edition constains 2 extra molecules, TAA and [P130](https://a314.com/product/p130/), TAA is the main component of IS. You don’t need IG because AMMO already contains Androsterone, the main component of IG. AMMO and IG would be pushing it with the Androsterone and you could lose the AMMO sexiness vibe. I use IG mainly during the day, and it does attract women, and it’s a lot safer to use during the day by young guys compared to AMMO as IG does not contain Androstenone. AMMO can be used during the day as well, but would recommend using less sprays compared to night time use. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 10:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/17 "2012-07-19T10:29:47Z")
> [@ACLD](#): > > So are you saying summer ammo is the equivalent to ammo + IS? When would you want to use something like IG? [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is the Standard Ammo mix (none, nol and rone) plus P130 and TAA, which is the main component of IS but a bit more chilled without IS’s undisclosed components. P130 is still experimental but is also looking like a good comfort/social phero, esp around younger women. So it is a bit more than Ammo/IS and has a distinct feel all its own. You would use IG when you want to cut a dash and impress someone. It is very suitable for your age and will go very well alongside Ammo. ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/18 "2012-07-19T11:41:39Z")
So are you suggesting that I would be better with ammo summer and then buy IG for things like university interviews, job interviews or even at work (I currently work in private dinner parties I work around school)? Would ammo summer always work fine then for night since it is basic ammo with just a little social when you break it down I guess? ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/19 "2012-07-19T11:46:14Z")
> [@ACLD](#): > > So are you suggesting that I would be better with ammo summer and then buy IG for things like university interviews, job interviews or even at work (I currently work in private dinner parties I work around school)? Would ammo summer always work fine then for night since it is basic ammo with just a little social when you break it down I guess? Yes, in my opinion you would be better off with Ammo Summer due to the added social molecules and it would work fine at night, I still would get IO as well. IG would be great for the things you mentioned, you could still combine AMMO with IG if you like, it’s all about experimenting and finding something that works for you. ---
**Author:** ![ACLD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@ACLD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ACLD)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2012, 12:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167/20 "2012-07-19T12:38:50Z")
I think what I will do is go for the Ammo summer and IG then. I would love to get the IO as well but at 119 dollars for a single package I just couldn’t afford it plus tbh if I was spending that much I would most likely go for the A314 as everyone seems to rave about it. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-purchase-help/56167.md?page=2)