# First time experience. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 8, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656 "2012-09-08T14:58:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ashg101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@ashg101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ashg101)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656/1 "2012-09-08T14:58:57Z")
Hello! I purchased the newbie kit: > **[Social Success Pheromone - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/)** > > A314 cologne is a powerful blend of 17 pheromones that enhance your confidence and gives you amazing social experiences you will never forget and also p83 (12.5). I have done through research via the search button/threads and would like some information from the “experts” at this forum. women, in general have always avoided me- i have no idea why- its like i am invisible or something. so i decided to try the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) at work. ## Day 1 (1 spray each) p83 - on chest Ammo - on chest a134 - on neck ## day2 (1 spray each) TUTH - on chest instant openness instant shine i think i might have seen a “hit” on the day 2. one of the employees was telling me how much she hates her job and if i knew a place that was hiring (she has done this like 3 times within last few months). Please suggest how many sprays would do it? Just to get noticed/mingling/relationship/dates. Please keep me in mind that i have purchased the kit and have not yet experimented with all the mones yet- so any advice that worked for you can help me as a trial. Thank you for your time! * * * September 8 tried p102 (neroli) 5ml to go At work an employee and i got in a deep conversation regarding fishing (she is fascianted with fishing and i am just fascinated about the type of fish she catches). The conversation went on for almost 30 minutes. very good conversations (never had more than a 5 min convo with her). She ended up adding me on facebook and messaging me her number in case i am “bored” at work. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 3:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656/2 "2012-09-08T15:07:16Z")
We cannot tell you how many sprays of this or that will do - You really do need to do your Sweet Spot testing with each product individually to see what doses work for you, first singly, then in combination. And more generally, TUTH at work is not a good idea, unless you do happen to work somewhere where sex on the job is common. Even with IO/IS as moderators, this is still a sexually overt and immediate mix that is best kept for the clubs or other raunchy places. ---
**Author:** ![ashg101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@ashg101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ashg101)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656/3 "2012-09-08T15:48:39Z")
from your experience, did you start out with [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) “x” (1 spray/2 spray) and then a different one another day same concept but in isolation etc… at first or did you mix? what is a blend you would recommend? ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656/4 "2012-09-09T05:41:53Z")
> [@](#): > > Please suggest how many sprays would do it? Just to get noticed/mingling/relationship/dates. Please keep me in mind that i have purchased the kit and have not yet experimented with all the pheromones yet- Work isn’t the best place for experimentation. It’s much better to go to a bar or nightclub where you don’t have that much to lose. If those enviroments make you uncomfortable those are emotions that you have to work through. > [@](#): > > women, in general have always avoided me- i have no idea why- its like i am invisible or something. Do you initiate conversations with woman and they ignore you or do you expect them to initiate the conversations? ---
**Author:** ![ashg101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@ashg101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ashg101)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 11:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656/5 "2012-09-10T11:53:36Z")
i am more the shy type so i expect the other to make the move first. However, if there is a situation where i know i can initiate a convo i try it. Majority of the time the outcomes i have gotten out of it is “just friends” after couple weeks. Also, what seems to be an appropriate blend that will have a lost friend initiate a conversation with me (this is someone i see quite often with peers). ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2012, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656/6 "2012-09-10T13:24:25Z")
> [@](#): > > i am more the shy type so i expect the other to make the move first. In western society the guy is usually expected to make the first move. A girl might signal you via bodylanguage that she wants you to approach. If you don’t then she won’t approach you on on her own. Wearning something like A134 will make it even worse. The stuff gives you a high status vibe that would increase others expectation that you open the conversation if you want to have a conversation. Start with instant openness. Do your sweet spot testing with it. It gives the vibe that you are easy to talk to. ---
**Author:** ![ashg101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@ashg101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ashg101)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-time-experience/56656/7 "2012-09-11T19:03:24Z")
i have another problem. I took 3 hits of TUTH to chest. one shot ammo on arm. a shot of 83 on neck. a shot of ammo on adams apple. me and a friend were in a room together (i put it on maybe 30 mins before) to test on her. we have been in that room for maybe 4 hours. no change/noticeable effect. what could be wrong? is it the fact that we know each other mutually?