# First Timer w/an Arsennal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 23, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474 "2010-02-23T14:09:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![schmitalex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@schmitalex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schmitalex)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/1 "2010-02-23T14:09:13Z")
**Need to know what combination of mixtures I should try for both noted and previously asked questions. To recap I own A314, IO, IH, IShine, AMMO, TUTH, and TAL. I am hosting a party at a friend’s house this Friday. The packages should arrive before then. I want to ensure that my personal after party will be a lucky sure hit. Any suggestions? I have read the main threads about suggested mixtures, just wondering if anyone would have any personal suggestions. Thanks!** ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 2:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/2 "2010-02-23T14:25:27Z")
No such thing as a sure hit, but in a crowded party like environment I would go with 2 drops A314, a or two of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), and 2-3 shots of Shine. It’s a party environment so I assume that most people will be at least fairly acquainted with each other and in a chatty social mood anyway so IO and IH would be redundant imo. ---
**Author:** ![schmitalex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@schmitalex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schmitalex)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/3 "2010-02-23T14:42:04Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > No such thing as a sure hit, but in a crowded party like environment I would go with 2 drops A314, a or two of Ammo, and 2-3 shots of Shine. It’s a party environment so I assume that most people will be at least fairly acquainted with each other and in a chatty social mood anyway so IO and IH would be redundant imo. Ok, that sounds great. How about my after party? I will be at the party for two to three hours before I meet up with my one on one girl whom I have never hung out with in person, and have only really texted and talked on the phone. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/4 "2010-02-23T15:15:46Z")
oh crap in that case I’d have some IO or IH handy, people that know eachother via text tend to clam up on first time face to face meetings. And maybe refresh the Ammo after a couple of hours, the A314 should last a good long while since it’s oil based. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/5 "2010-02-23T15:39:30Z")
After 4 hours refresh the ammo with one spray. For that one on one thing I’d go more with IO. Its just a better way to start things off socially although I prefer IH myself. Don’t over do it though I think 2 sprays will be more than sufficient of 1x IO. ---
**Author:** ![schmitalex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@schmitalex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schmitalex)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/6 "2010-02-23T16:21:12Z")
Ok, I think I understand. So I should apply the A314 first like an hour or two before the party. Then right before I get there I should apply two shots of AMMO and two shots of Shine. Then on my way to the 1-on1, I should apply one to two shots of IO (how about one shot of IO and one of IH?). And depending on how long I will be hanging out I can spray a sneak shot of TUTH after we get comfortable. Bear in mind there will probably be some dope smoking, will those smells mess up the interaction of the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)? And, I smoke cigarettes, does that play into how I should use the products? Thanks for the advice! ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/7 "2010-02-23T17:50:55Z")
I don’t think dope smoking will effect your effect on others but any effects on yourself might be another thing. Since both affect the mind to a certain degree just be wary of yourself. Unless the whole place is bogged down in cigarette smoke I doubt it will hinder the mones. Yeah just keep it to the 2 ammo shots then the 2 IO later on and TUTH when comfortable. Each shot of ammo and tuth have 2.5 ugs of none so make sure you gauge the time properly so that when you apply the TUTH that it isnt too much. None dies down over time but it can certainly stay on your skin until the next day. ---
**Author:** ![schmitalex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de053/32.png) [@schmitalex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/schmitalex)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/8 "2010-02-23T18:05:21Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I don’t think dope smoking will effect your effect on others but any effects on yourself might be another thing. Since both affect the mind to a certain degree just be wary of yourself. Unless the whole place is bogged down in cigarette smoke I doubt it will hinder the mones. Yeah just keep it to the 2 ammo shots then the 2 IO later on and TUTH when comfortable. Each shot of ammo and tuth have 2.5 ugs of none so make sure you gauge the time properly so that when you apply the TUTH that it isnt too much. None dies down over time but it can certainly stay on your skin until the next day. Alright so according to what you said, I should NOT apply the Shine or the IH? Is that correct. I think that I know that I can apply the Shine. You may have just left the IH out? If that’s the case I will revise my plan to use A314 first. Then apply 2-3 shots Shine before attending party. Once I leave party apply 2 shots of Ammo and IO, and TUTH when needed? Is that about right? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-timer-w-an-arsennal/36474/9 "2010-02-23T18:14:41Z")
IS is optional you can always add it if you want to. IS is very neutral you cant really go wrong with it. No IH with a girl you don’t know. Wait a second…no no no switch your IS application with your Ammo application. You want to use the ammo for the party especially and let it die down. Split the IS use one spray with the 2 ammo and use another when you meet with the other girl along with the 2 IO. Then at the end you can figure out when to use the TUTH. I think I covered all bases now lol.