# first two days of testing. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 14, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065 "2009-03-14T20:35:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chopinlives81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@chopinlives81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chopinlives81)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/1 "2009-03-14T20:35:51Z")
ok so i’m new to the whole pheromone world and I’ve bought a few mones from love-scent, and ordered a few from androtics to try out. So far I have at my disposal: **1) Scent of Eros unscented (roll on) 2) Chikara cologne 3) Alpha-7 scented 4) Pherlure** I’m currently awaiting for: \*\*- Ammo (regular) - [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) (regular) - Turn up the Heat (regular) \*\* after alot of reading on first timers i’ve decided to start out with Scent of Eros alone and make heavy observations. So far i’ve used it for two days and here are my results: **Stats** : 5’5, hispanic, light skinned, 165lbs, average build decent looking guy overall. **Day 1-Observations** : I can’t smell anything from the bottle except for a little alcohol. I applied about 4 inches on both forearms and rubbed them together, and about 2-3 inches on both sides of my neck just below the ears. Let it dry then asked my aunt (about 50) to smell my arms. She couldn’t describe the smell. She mentioned: \*\*- it wasn’t pronounced, but detetcable - mildly pleasant kinda woody smell - a tad musky \*\* After about an hour after applying I decided to go ride the trains and see if I could notice anything (FYI: I live in NYC, in my opinion the subways are a perfect place to try out mones due to large number of people in close proximity) Anyway, First thing that happened an old lady about 70 asked me for direction ( quite normal really) but this was outside on the platform waiting for the train. Inside the train there were several young school girls. 3 were standing near me talking.Didn’t notice any looks and after a few minutes they kinda just walked away. Two older girls about mid 20’s also didn’t really react, but one of them was kinda squinting her nostrils as if trying to determine a smell. Thats about it for the first day as the weather was kinda cold and I figured it wasn’t the best time to experiment. When I returned home I decided to apply the same amount again in the same spots just to see ( this was about 2 hours later) and then asked my mother to smell my arms. she mentioned: \*\*- smells like smoked meat or fried meat - kinda like pure man sweat or very heavy BO. - the aroma was only noticeable when smelled directly at application points - Rather unpleasant or unflattering \*\* decided maybe it was too much and took a hot shower washing application points. **Day 2-Observations** : weather was much milder today and perfect for just a short sleeved shirt and my leather jacket. got dressed early, shaved and applied the same amount of Scent of Eros to the same spots and this time usded two sprays of a nice cologne I have called Mambo as a cover scent. Rubbed the cologne on the top of my forearms and on the clothes and back of neck, but made sure not to go over the pheromone spots. This time I took a long ride into the subways changing trains back and forth and standing in close proximity to any cute girls I saw. Here’s what happened (possible hits) - second train about 30 minutes after application waiting on platform a sexy blond about 6 feet away starts looking in my direction, another really sexy blond girl right next to me looks a few times then turn her body towards me. when we get on the train the same girl stands and seems to want to stand near me but can’t cuz of the people. there’s a spanish girl right behind the blond who also starts looking at me and we lock eye contact several times. The blond at one point opens her coat and kinda protrudes her chest out towards me (she’s standing about 3 feet from me with no obstruction). I keep noticing glances and then another girl comes on the train and stands next to me and kinda has a comfy smirk on her face. Blondie starts looking through her purse, but can’t seem to find anything, and the spanish girl starts looking for something and somehow drops a ribbon right on my foot from 4 -5 feet away! (kinda odd I think). I pick it up for her and she says thank you. I get of and ride the same train back in the other direction and stood near a black woman who was sitting (mid 30’s maybe). I quickly noticed her looking at me. she was gazing at one point and I looked right at her, but she didn’t look away. Happened several times we locked eyes-no blinking on her part. got off the train eventually and went to the mall but it was dead, barely anyone there. I decide to go eat at a KFC’S. Ordered to stay and sat down . it was kinda crowded, but i didn’t notice anything. while eating two older women sitting about 10 feet from me look at me and one asks me what it was I was eating. I found it kinda out of the blue. thats about it for that, finished eating, left and went back on the train. Went to a store to buy some blank dvd’s, didn’t notice anything so i’m figuring maybe the Eros is wearing off. Its been close to 6 hours now. Went back home and that was it. No other noticeable reactions. Conclusion: I feel that I did have a few hits especially with the first few train rides. After that it was rather weak, unless I wasn’t noticing anything. I’ll try the Eros again and again for the rest of the week then i’m moving on to testing Chikara. Anyone have any thoughts or remarks??? ---
**Author:** ![chopinlives81](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7cd45c/32.png) [@chopinlives81](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chopinlives81)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/2 "2009-03-15T06:27:29Z")
:bump: update: later i tried 1 drop of A-7 split on both sides of the neck with a few inches of SOE with no results ( heavy subway travel too) ---
**Author:** ![qwerty814](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/41988e/32.png) [@qwerty814](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/qwerty814)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/3 "2009-03-26T01:35:54Z")
wow man, looks like you got some girls looking your way. i can’t wait to try it out! Good stuff ---
**Author:** ![reliance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@reliance](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reliance)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/4 "2009-03-26T01:37:52Z")
Pherlure doesn’t actually contain any [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). ---
**Author:** ![DarkRing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ccd318/32.png) [@DarkRing](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DarkRing)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/5 "2009-04-06T20:07:14Z")
Wow, I am amazed at how many times I have to post links about the scam of pherlure: [Pherlure and di-dehydroepiandrosterone are a scam](http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=12549) I only hope people read and do some research before you buy any products for that matter. If you bought pherlure, try and get your money back. ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/6 "2009-04-06T22:18:30Z")
This is from the site that DarkRing posted: “Pheromones ARE real, and they DO work - You just need to find a legitimate supplier. The list of shameful pheromone retailers who you should NOT buy from includes: [pherlure.com](http://pherlure.com), [pheromonetalk.com](http://pheromonetalk.com) / [androticsdirect.com](http://androticsdirect.com), [discountpheromones.com](http://discountpheromones.com), and [icebreaker4men.com](http://icebreaker4men.com).” Now, they proved that pherlure doesn’t really have pheromones, but they never give a reason why the rest are “shameful pheromone retailers”. So wow, if Androtics is a scam, why did my [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) work so well?😃 ---
**Author:** ![simplyme101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@simplyme101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simplyme101)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/7 "2009-04-07T05:50:19Z")
This is the first time I read this but when I first heard about Pheromones I bought Max attraction from luvessentials total waste of money thought Pheros was a scam. Few years later a friend recommended Phelure tried it and became positive of my first conclusion Then Somehow came across this site and its changing my life everyday in a good way. Love every product that I have used and if used correctly does exactly what it says!!! Thank God for pheros and androticsdirect/ smartmones > [@DarkRing](#): > > Wow, I am amazed at how many times I have to post links about the scam of pherlure: > > [Pherlure and di-dehydroepiandrosterone are a scam](http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=12549) > > I only hope people read and do some research before you buy any products for that matter. If you bought pherlure, try and get your money back. ---
**Author:** ![mamba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@mamba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mamba)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/8 "2009-04-07T16:15:55Z")
quite confident that androtics is not a scam. the self effect of instant shine alone has convinced me that it works reasonably well, though would recommend a double strength. instant oppeness and honesty seem to have worked reasonably well, though speradically. it seems, annoyingly, that no product can provide powerful and consistant results with EVERY oNE and ANYONE. ☹ i suppose their receptors have to be tuned in to some degree to your scent had strong responses for example with a girl i met for the first time at polo. there were a few amazingly nice women there (as there always are, hence why i play religiously) - nice in a non sexual, polish and decorate the mantle piece with way 😛- sorry!. anywho - this particular girl had very strong responses to a cheap phero product i had bought previously, gotten dissappointed with and just mixxed in with my cologne (armani 1:1) for daily use. soon as we met, she kepting on asking me if i felt a little horny, told me she only lived down the road and later offered me her fone number. 1 or two other girls seemed mildly interested, but nothing unusual, or i should say note worthy. ps. best results so far always in summer time. (or the one day of sunshine we sometimes enjoy in england) - _definitely_ mating season IMO. ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/9 "2009-04-07T16:52:41Z")
> [@mamba](#): > > it seems, annoyingly, that no product can provide powerful and consistant results with EVERY oNE and ANYONE. ☹ Well, it _is_ annoying, but not surprising. Everyone has a different natural phero signature, so different products are going to have different reactions to those signatures. It’s like making that absolutely perfect prime rib and serving it to a room full of people: some will hate it, a lot will like it, and the vegans in the crowd will want to lynch you! > [@](#): > > ps. best results so far always in summer time. (or the one day of sunshine we sometimes enjoy in england) - _definitely_ mating season IMO. A _one day_ mating season? Damn, man, move to Florida!😃 Or here to Texas, where we have two seasons: summer and late fall. ---
**Author:** ![simplyme101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@simplyme101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simplyme101)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/10 "2009-04-07T22:38:10Z")
Do you happen to remember the name of the cheap phero that you mentioned in your post? > [@mamba](#): > > quite confident that androtics is not a scam. > > the self effect of instant shine alone has convinced me that it works reasonably well, though would recommend a double strength. > > instant oppeness and honesty seem to have worked reasonably well, though speradically. > > it seems, annoyingly, that no product can provide powerful and consistant results with EVERY oNE and ANYONE. ☹ > > i suppose their receptors have to be tuned in to some degree to your scent > > had strong responses for example with a girl i met for the first time at polo. there were a few amazingly nice women there (as there always are, hence why i play religiously) - nice in a non sexual, polish and decorate the mantle piece with way 😛- sorry!. > > anywho - this particular girl had very strong responses to a cheap phero product i had bought previously, gotten dissappointed with and just mixxed in with my cologne (armani 1:1) for daily use. > > soon as we met, she kepting on asking me if i felt a little horny, told me she only lived down the road and later offered me her fone number. > > 1 or two other girls seemed mildly interested, but nothing unusual, or i should say note worthy. > > ps. best results so far always in summer time. (or the one day of sunshine we sometimes enjoy in england) - _definitely_ mating season IMO. ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2009, 4:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/11 "2009-04-08T04:06:00Z")
nice collection to start out with ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 12:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/12 "2013-03-25T12:23:33Z")
> [@chopinlives81](#): > > ok so i’m new to the whole pheromone world and I’ve bought a few mones from love-scent, and ordered a few from androtics to try out. So far I have at my disposal: > > **1) Scent of Eros unscented (roll on) > 2) Chikara cologne > 3) Alpha-7 scented > 4) Pherlure** > > I’m currently awaiting for: > \*\*- Ammo (regular) > > - Instant Shine (regular) > - Turn up the Heat (regular) > \*\* > after alot of reading on first timers i’ve decided to start out with Scent of Eros alone and make heavy observations. So far i’ve used it for two days and here are my results: > > **Stats** : 5’5, hispanic, light skinned, 165lbs, average build decent looking guy overall. > > **Day 1-Observations** : I can’t smell anything from the bottle except for a little alcohol. I applied about 4 inches on both forearms and rubbed them together, and about 2-3 inches on both sides of my neck just below the ears. Let it dry then asked my aunt (about 50) to smell my arms. She couldn’t describe the smell. She mentioned: > \*\*- it wasn’t pronounced, but detetcable > > - mildly pleasant kinda woody smell > - a tad musky > \*\* > After about an hour after applying I decided to go ride the trains and see if I could notice anything > (FYI: I live in NYC, in my opinion the subways are a perfect place to try out mones due to large number of people in close proximity) > > Anyway, First thing that happened an old lady about 70 asked me for direction ( quite normal really) but this was outside on the platform waiting for the train. Inside the train there were several young school girls. 3 were standing near me talking.Didn’t notice any looks and after a few minutes they kinda just walked away. > > Two older girls about mid 20’s also didn’t really react, but one of them was kinda squinting her nostrils as if trying to determine a smell. Thats about it for the first day as the weather was kinda cold and I figured it wasn’t the best time to experiment. When I returned home I decided to apply the same amount again in the same spots just to see ( this was about 2 hours later) and then asked my mother to smell my arms. she mentioned: > > \*\*- smells like smoked meat or fried meat > > - kinda like pure man sweat or very heavy BO. > - the aroma was only noticeable when smelled directly at application points > - Rather unpleasant or unflattering > \*\* > decided maybe it was too much and took a hot shower washing application points. > > **Day 2-Observations** : weather was much milder today and perfect for just a short sleeved shirt and my leather jacket. got dressed early, shaved and applied the same amount of Scent of Eros to the same spots and this time usded two sprays of a nice cologne I have called Mambo as a cover scent. Rubbed the cologne on the top of my forearms and on the clothes and back of neck, but made sure not to go over the pheromone spots. > > This time I took a long ride into the subways changing trains back and forth and standing in close proximity to any cute girls I saw. Here’s what happened (possible hits) > > - second train about 30 minutes after application waiting on platform a sexy blond about 6 feet away starts looking in my direction, another really sexy blond girl right next to me looks a few times then turn her body towards me. when we get on the train the same girl stands and seems to want to stand near me but can’t cuz of the people. there’s a spanish girl right behind the blond who also starts looking at me and we lock eye contact several times. The blond at one point opens her coat and kinda protrudes her chest out towards me (she’s standing about 3 feet from me with no obstruction). I keep noticing glances and then another girl comes on the train and stands next to me and kinda has a comfy smirk on her face. Blondie starts looking through her purse, but can’t seem to find anything, and the spanish girl starts looking for something and somehow drops a ribbon right on my foot from 4 -5 feet away! (kinda odd I think). I pick it up for her and she says thank you. > > I get of and ride the same train back in the other direction and stood near a black woman who was sitting (mid 30’s maybe). I quickly noticed her looking at me. she was gazing at one point and I looked right at her, but she didn’t look away. Happened several times we locked eyes-no blinking on her part. got off the train eventually and went to the mall but it was dead, barely anyone there. > > I decide to go eat at a KFC’S. Ordered to stay and sat down . it was kinda crowded, but i didn’t notice anything. while eating two older women sitting about 10 feet from me look at me and one asks me what it was I was eating. I found it kinda out of the blue. thats about it for that, finished eating, left and went back on the train. Went to a store to buy some blank dvd’s, didn’t notice anything so i’m figuring maybe the Eros is wearing off. Its been close to 6 hours now. Went back home and that was it. No other noticeable reactions. > > Conclusion: I feel that I did have a few hits especially with the first few train rides. After that it was rather weak, unless I wasn’t noticing anything. I’ll try the Eros again and again for the rest of the week then i’m moving on to testing Chikara. > > Anyone have any thoughts or remarks??? -enone is good for giving that I wanna f you look. But chicks don’t engage when wearing Eros alone unless at a party or already drunk. Mix it with some -enone & -nol. One or the other, or both. You need to create some pull. You already have the attraction from the -enone in Eros but you need that extra pull. You can try nol so they will wanna talk with you first. Possibly some A1 or erone to keep them comfortable. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-two-days-of-testing/27065/13 "2013-03-25T18:11:33Z")
> [@gforcex117](#): > > -enone is good for giving that I wanna f you look. But chicks don’t engage when wearing Eros alone unless at a party or already drunk. Mix it with some -enone & -nol. One or the other, or both. You need to create some pull. You already have the attraction from the -enone in Eros but you need that extra pull. You can try nol so they will wanna talk with you first. Possibly some A1 or erone to keep them comfortable. SOE is 80/20 Alphanol/rone, **no none whatsoever**. If you are feeling the need to add extra nols, it could be that you are underdosing the stuff, which IME is a very common mistake. After that, I do tend to add some extra none - usually in a fairly overt/unmoderated form - Alpha-7 or Domination in oils or TUTH, plain Androstenone or similar in spray form. And if SOE/none from other products is not setting you off irritation-wise, then it is most certainly **not** the pheros in [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) that are causing you problems because these are the very same ones! 🙂