# Focus, Concentration, Attention - What do you use?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 17, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619 "2012-05-17T15:46:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![l3th0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@l3th0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/l3th0n)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/1 "2012-05-17T15:46:47Z")

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Hello Everyone!

I have been searching the forum after I learned, that some people get self-effects like increased focus on task a hand, but all the posts seem outdated. For instance; P90 and P93 all seem to do just this, but are not available for sale atm. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) & P79 might do it aswell.  
I have experienced increased focus myself, and think it may be due to the IH, but I’m not sure yet (Bought the Killer Set : Great deal btw! Thanks 🙂 ). As you might have noticed, I’m pretty new to this.  
But I’ve got some exams coming up, and anything, that can help me. I don’t have a condition like ADD or anything, I just suck at focusing, especially reading texts. This I will work on, a better way to increase concentration is playing Dual-N-Back, but no time for that atm.

**Aaaannyyway -**  
Also I hoped this might serve as a thread for this particular question.  
So which product do you use to help you focus?

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/2 "2012-05-17T15:49:56Z")

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For focus, the first mone that comes to mind is TAF. Not long lasting, within 2 hours, but, during that time, I’ve found it to be an anal focus on task at hand.

There are others that help, like the thread I started:

> [@Mones that will clear up brain fog!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-that-will-clear-up-brain-fog/42569):
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> I’m searching for mones that will help with (i’ve been updating the list for the current contenders): Confidence in your abilities A314 [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) Instant Shine Kills negative Self Talk P75 @ 2.5 mu and GT1suggests it as well. Focus and Concentration TAF P93 P79 P114 @ 20 to 30 mu P90 Instant Shine Put a hot chile up your butt! Pushes you hard!!! MOTIVATION! P90 P106 [Possibly…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-that-will-clear-up-brain-fog/42569/36) P123 - Need confirmation… Per Vespero on [Post 16](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-that-will-clear-up-brain-fog/42569/16), I have a little bottle of sandal…

BUT, I would ask, have you tried nootripics like the racitam family?

1Alpha

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2012, 3:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/3 "2012-05-17T15:51:30Z")

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I think you have your putatives mixed up. TAF is everyones main choice for focus and P102 is mine for pinpoint focus. A search would reveal this. Keep in mind though the putatives are NOT designed to do anything. They are merely single molecules used in mixes. What they actually do, well that’s for you to discover 😉

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**Author:** ![l3th0n](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@l3th0n](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/l3th0n)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 1:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/4 "2012-05-18T01:07:55Z")

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Thanks, something to look at.  
Ahh yes, I see now. Apparantly there is more structure to this forum, than I thought 😉  
Yeah also heard about TAF, but it costs 999$, which is out of my price range.

1Alpha I haven’t tried nootripics, but it does ring a bell. Have you got any experience with it?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/5 "2012-05-18T02:10:23Z")

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> [@l3th0n](#):
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> Yeah also heard about TAF, but it costs 999$, which is out of my price range.

It dosen’t

All that means when you see a price like that is that it is currently out of stock or sale is restricted to Reporting Users due to low stock.

It will revert to the normal price when stocks are replenished.

P100 has also been reported to increase focus, concentration, energy and the will to get things done. As a standalone and in combo with TAF. It is currently listed as in stock. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jonny38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jonny38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonny38)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/6 "2012-05-18T03:51:25Z")

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“BUT, I would ask, have you tried nootripics like the racitam family?”

Good suggestion.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 4:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/7 "2012-05-18T04:44:37Z")

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Nope, not at all convinced about them

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 6:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/8 "2012-05-18T06:43:53Z")

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> [@l3th0n](#):
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> Thanks, something to look at.  
> Ahh yes, I see now. Apparantly there is more structure to this forum, than I thought 😉  
> Yeah also heard about TAF, but it costs 999$, which is out of my price range.
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> 1Alpha I haven’t tried nootripics, but it does ring a bell. **Have you got any experience with it**?

P114 has had some self effects primarily in enhanced visual acuity though mental clarity of thought have also been noticed, in my experience.

These mones aren’t DESIGNED to get these self effect. If you get these types of effect, it’s a bonus and good to have in most cases.

Yes, I have some experience with nootropics. I have Piracitam, Pramaracitam, and am trying out Oxiracetam. This along with Choline Bitratrate, among others like Huperzine A and Acetyl-L Carnitine have been rotated in my ‘stack’. For these, I do recommend testing as some have little to no effect on some. As a short summary of my experience, Piracitam has been helpful in memory retention, over an extended period of use. Pramaracitam has been the most useful in alertness and a speeding up of memory recall. Oxi, I’m still on the fence about it’s effectiveness as I haven’t ‘put’ it through it’s paces for enough time. Huperzine A is fine, I’m using 200 mg a day, for general mental clarity with similar effects with A-L Carnitine.

I asked this question initially because, you can find that these ‘drugs’ are focused (Pun intended 😉) on mental fortification and intellectual performance. These are drugs and can have detrimental effects on you so PLEASE tread lightly before putting anything in your system. There are others much better qualified and experienced on these that you should thoroughly research the nay sayers as well as those in favor of ‘smart’ drugs.

Mones are applied to your skin so, if you wish, the effects should be easily dispersed with a good scrub of the application area. Much easier to use and if the self effects are a bump in mental acuity, well, it’s good to document for yourself as well as others on the forum! 😃

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**Author:** ![Jonny38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jonny38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonny38)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 8:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/9 "2012-05-18T08:06:36Z")

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Off Topic But: Racitams can work well IME but they take time to work. Not an instant effect, weeks not hours. Certainly helped me with study, learning and improved memory.

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**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 2:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/10 "2012-05-18T14:19:49Z")

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For mones a314 helps.. but I prefer products that help cognition which has nothing to do with mone products.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2012, 7:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/11 "2012-05-18T19:10:07Z")

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I do like the A314 self effects with a kick in the butt get out and do it type of vibe.  
Though, I agree with his statement as tools are used for a specific purpose. Mones have their purpose(s) but with the P’s and MX’s can find some extra “things” that they can do in self effects. It’s all about testing them out and reporting on their effects.

> [@dsouza](#):
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> For mones a314 helps.. but I prefer products that help cognition which has nothing to do with mone products.

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**Author:** ![tommarty920](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tommarty920/32/1273_2.png) [@tommarty920](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tommarty920)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/12 "2012-10-16T12:25:30Z")

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> [@Jonny38](#):
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> Off Topic But: Racitams can work well IME but they take time to work. Not an instant effect, weeks not hours. Certainly helped me with study, learning and improved memory.

Can definitely vouch for this. Have used Piracetam for quite awhile and have definitely noticed a huge difference in concentration and awareness.

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 12:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/13 "2012-10-16T12:31:42Z")

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As have I, tommarty, as have I…

Piracetam and Choline Bitratrate have been a morning staple of mine with @ a week rest with every month of use.

1Alpha

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> [@tommarty920](#):
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> Can definitely vouch for this. Have used Piracetam for quite awhile and have definitely noticed a huge difference in concentration and awareness.

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**Author:** ![tommarty920](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tommarty920/32/1273_2.png) [@tommarty920](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tommarty920)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/14 "2012-10-16T12:35:44Z")

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> [@1Alpha](#):
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> As have I, tommarty, as have I…
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> Piracetam and Choline Bitratrate have been a morning staple of mine with @ a week rest with every month of use.
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> 1Alpha
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> .

It’s great isn’t it. I prefer to take it with Alpha-GPC, for some reason just regular Choline would still give me headaches. I’ve never tried TAF, how does it compare?

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**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/focus-concentration-attention-what-do-you-use/55619/15 "2012-10-16T12:55:48Z")

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TAF is a short, within 2 hours, burst of focus, IME. It’s subtle, but palpable. I use \< 5 mu and I’m good for @ 1 hour with diminished results on the 2nd one.

I haven’t tried Alpha-GPC as the Choline has worked out so far.  
Should give it a go…

I prefer the longer term hours and hours of Piracitam goodness… 🙂
