# For 15 year old male - A314 plus IO, IS or CTTM2? IG is not in stock **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 24, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268 "2010-03-24T21:29:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/96bed5/32.png) [@Rstar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rstar)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/1 "2010-03-24T21:29:49Z")
IG in either big or to go version is currently out of stock So would A314 with IO, IS or CTTM2 or combination of be a good substitute. Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/2 "2010-03-24T22:44:35Z")
It depends on why your looking into A314. Are you looking for more attention from girls ? Are you shy ? If your shy A314 can be a tough product to use because you have to lead with it. Your better off getting a 12.5 mcg bottle of arone in the experimone section and using Ishine and IO with it. That will bring you closer to IG then using A314. Now if you looking for status or are in the same situation as Allen who posted in another thread and you seem to get treated shitty then A314 with IO and Ishine is good but as I said you will have to most of the initiating. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/3 "2010-03-24T23:46:20Z")
Out of curiosity, if you’re 15 why does your age say 40? ---
**Author:** ![Rstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/96bed5/32.png) [@Rstar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rstar)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/4 "2010-03-25T00:07:34Z")
> [@Razorpowell](#): > > Out of curiosity, if you’re 15 why does your age say 40? Good observation. Because the 15 year old is my nephew. I’m giving him a bunch of androtics stuff as a gift. Would it be better to give him [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) instead (to use with IO or IS or CTTM2) and just let him know he should not have to use more than 1 spray? ---
**Author:** ![Rstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/96bed5/32.png) [@Rstar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rstar)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/5 "2010-03-25T00:08:45Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > It depends on why your looking into A314. > > Are you looking for more attention from girls ? Are you shy ? If your shy A314 can be a tough product to use because you have to lead with it. > > Your better off getting a 12.5 mcg bottle of arone in the experimone section and using Ishine and IO with it. That will bring you closer to IG then using A314. > > Now if you looking for status or are in the same situation as Allen who posted in another thread and you seem to get treated shitty then A314 with IO and Ishine is good but as I said you will have to most of the initiating. > > Tisha What do you mean by “lead with it”? Examples of “lead with it” behavior? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/6 "2010-03-25T01:18:08Z")
A314 gives you the Alpha vibe. The Alpha leads, He initiates conversation, he makes eye contact etc etc … You need to be able to make other people comfortable with the vibe. Just like the natural Alpha does. If your shy or you want girls to initiate more instead of having to do the approaching then a 15 year old would be better off with IO If he is getting picked on at school A314 could help but he will have to be able to back up the vibe. I am still leaning towards the arone, IO, Ishine combo Tisha ---
**Author:** ![reborn\_alchemist93](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reborn_alchemist93/32/2150_2.png) [@reborn\_alchemist93](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/reborn_alchemist93)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 1:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/7 "2010-03-25T01:18:17Z")
If I were your nephew, I’d save A314 for senior year to be a total badass when he comes back in the summer aha. Well thats what I’m going to do anyways. They ran out of IG right when my order was processed and I went with Ammo instead. I don’t know how different IG would be if I had it right now, but I don’t regret getting Ammo lol. Plus Ammo (from what I seen on the boards) is a good starter [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) with the social mones ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/8 "2010-03-25T15:14:56Z")
I agree with Tishs. A314 might not be the best choice right now. Erone + socials should be a win. Really all if your just trying to give him an edge he might be fine with IH and Is. I am choosing Ih for him because of the bonding effect. Could help get some interest from the ladies at that age! Stay away from anone entirely. That means no ammo or ij or tuth. Not that you necessarily want togive a 15 year old a bottle of something that days tuth on it lol ---
**Author:** ![Rstar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/96bed5/32.png) [@Rstar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rstar)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/9 "2010-03-25T16:01:47Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > I agree with Tishs. A314 might not be the best choice right now. Erone + socials should be a win. Really all if your just trying to give him an edge he might be fine with IH and Is. I am choosing Ih for him because of the bonding effect. Could help get some interest from the ladies at that age! Stay away from anone entirely. That means no ammo or ij or tuth. Not that you necessarily want togive a 15 year old a bottle of something that days tuth on it lol Why IH instead of IO? Would IO plus IS not be as good? I was originally planning on giving him just IO and IS but then I kept reading high schooler journals where they are having great social effects with A314, IG and Ammo (see Razor’s). ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/10 "2010-03-25T18:45:29Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > I agree with Tishs. A314 might not be the best choice right now. Erone + socials should be a win. Really all if your just trying to give him an edge he might be fine with IH and Is. I am choosing Ih for him because of the bonding effect. Could help get some interest from the ladies at that age! Stay away from anone entirely. That means no ammo or ij or tuth. Not that you necessarily want togive a 15 year old a bottle of something that days tuth on it lol > [@Rstar](#): > > Why IH instead of IO? Would IO plus IS not be as good? > > I was originally planning on giving him just IO and IS but then I kept reading high schooler journals where they are having great social effects with A314, IG and Ammo (see Razor’s). 2 weeks after starting pheros (and using -none every day but one) I have- A hot girl interested in me, but has a boyfriend so no-go A hot girl who I didn’t know interested in me, (she took the lead in getting to know me. never happened to me before) A junior girl who is also really attractive throwing me a few IOIs but not blatant interest A girl who is attractive and normally considers herself too cool to talk to me hitting on me Best results were today from 1x TUTH to chest, 1x ammo to forearms, 2x IS, 1.5x to-go IH. I would say ammo, IH, and IS are awesome for high schoolers if I could choose only 3. IH makes girls show their hits more noticeably (the same way it would cause “verbal slips”) ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2010, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-15-year-old-male-a314-plus-io-is-or-cttm2-ig-is-not-in-stock/37268/11 "2010-03-25T18:45:59Z")
But overall, none can be a great thing in HS, so don’t underestimate it.