# For the first time I smell none...and it all makes sense...and questions **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 2, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263 "2010-05-02T05:41:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stevios](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@stevios](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stevios)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/1 "2010-05-02T05:41:49Z")
In [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH I can’t smell the none. I can “feel” it, in that I know what my none self-effect is (I clench my jaw if there is even a small amount of none in a product, and don’t realise I’m doing it until it hurts!) So I’ve got some mixes in mind and got some high mcg bottles together and a few days ago made my first one - it’s basically a beta-nol heavy Ammo…and for the first time I can smell the none REALLY strongly. For those who can’t smell it, it’s like that armpit smell from sweat but before bad body odour comes in. If you bathe before bed, and the night is hot none is that armpit smell when you wake up. But that makes sense now. That’ll be the smell used in those university studies where women rated males more attractive if they sniffed a freshly sweaty shirt while viewing their photo. And that’ll explain why I had a girlfriend who said she found me more attractive when I’d just been for a run. Me protesting I smelt bad she always said wasn’t true, saying instead I smelt “all man”. So a couple of questions to those who have made their own mixes with a noticeable none smell. 1. Do you cover it with cologne? 2. Do you find people pick up on the smell, or on the mones, or both? Interestingly, my LTR who is very very sensitive normally to smells (she smells something long before anyone else does) didn’t comment at all but to me I stank to high heaven! ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/2 "2010-05-02T12:53:39Z")
I cover it, but it’s more for me. I’m extremely self conscious about how I smell and I figure if I can smell the -none, so can others. I’ve never had anyone tell me I smelled bad, though. In fact, I once had a girl tell me I smelled good while wearing Dirty, so who knows how these things work from person to person! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/3 "2010-05-02T14:29:10Z")
what other steering molecules are in AMMO? I heard they have many… TAC, TAF, p86??? Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/4 "2010-05-02T18:51:17Z")
what??? no I thought ammo only had Arol Arone and none? it doesn’t have all that other stuff does it? ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 7:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/5 "2010-05-02T19:08:04Z")
cause if it does I’ma start using ammo alot more! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/6 "2010-05-02T19:23:07Z")
many months ago, someone did mention they have various but very scant amount of steering molecules. Those porbably help get rid of volaitile and violent agression nature of anone and better balance it ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/7 "2010-05-02T19:33:58Z")
> [@stevios](#): > > For those who can’t smell it, it’s like that armpit smell from sweat but before bad body odour comes in. If you bathe before bed, and the night is hot none is that armpit smell when you wake up. Actually to many of us it smells like piss and BO intermingled. While some men lack the receptors to detect androstenone, I’ve read some eventually develop sensitivity to it. I could smell it from the beginning and probably over compensated with cologne trying to cover it. But, yeah, the androstenone in Ammo 2X is very evident after drydown. After a couple hours it seems to reek. PheroProof was even worse in this regard. An early variant of Ammo (1.5) had the Holy Trinity plus TAA. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/8 "2010-05-02T19:39:44Z")
> [@Des](#): > > what??? no I thought ammo only had Arol Arone and none? it doesn’t have all that other stuff does it? Yeah same here, I think even the AD website says it’s just 2.5 (or 5 for 2X) mcg each of Rone, None and Alpha Nol. ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/9 "2010-05-02T19:44:02Z")
thats what i thought, but that does make alot of sense cause the none in ammo is way more buffered then 2.5 mcgs of arone and anol could actually do. cause when I wear tuth ig and IO (which in a sense is a steroid ammo, the none still isn’t very buffered, so to think that ammo would be much more buffered with alot less seems crazy 🙂 so yea steering mones makes alot of sense ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/10 "2010-05-02T20:41:04Z")
TUTH is buffered like crazy. Ammo is plain 'o Holy Trinity. ---
**Author:** ![Des\_1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/des_1/32/695_2.png) [@Des\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Des_1)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2010, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/for-the-first-time-i-smell-none-and-it-all-makes-sense-and-questions/38263/11 "2010-05-02T21:00:28Z")
tuth is buffered???..