# FORCE FACTOR Test X180 **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [February 23, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260 "2013-02-23T18:58:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/1 "2013-02-23T18:58:31Z")
Is there anyone in here who take over the counter supplements to increase your test levels given Test X180 a shot? If so, what’s your thoughts/findings? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/2 "2013-02-23T19:16:10Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Is there anyone in here who take over the counter supplements to increase your test levels given Test X180 a shot? If so, what’s your thoughts/findings? > > Thanks! Looks like it is just a vitamin blend, the only scientific proven supplement that raises testosterone levels naturally is D-Aspartic-Acid (DAA) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/3 "2013-02-23T19:23:19Z")
> [@still18](#): > > Looks like it is just a vitamin blend, the only scientific proven supplement that raises testosterone levels naturally is D-Aspartic-Acid (DAA) Any experience with DAA, Still? And do you know any products that has DAA in it? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/4 "2013-02-24T02:52:20Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Any experience with DAA, Still? And do you know any products that has DAA in it? > > Thanks! I’ve have tried a few brands and had the best experience/results from Purus Labs, Purus Labs D-Pol & Recycle are best taken together. You can learn more there: [https://www.puruslabs.net/arsenal/d-pol-detail](https://www.puruslabs.net/arsenal/d-pol-detail) [https://www.puruslabs.net/arsenal/recycle-detail](https://www.puruslabs.net/arsenal/recycle-detail) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/5 "2013-02-26T09:13:35Z")
I can’t remember, but aren’t you a personal trainer? If I’m correct, I’d appreciate it if you look TEST-O-BOOST over, and give me your thoughts IF it contains all that it says it contains, please. [Advanced Test-O-Boost 3 Month Supply - Niwali Online Health Store](http://store.niwali.com/advanced-test-o-boost-3-month-supply/) Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 9:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/6 "2013-02-26T09:58:35Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > I can’t remember, but aren’t you a personal trainer? If I’m correct, I’d appreciate it if you look TEST-O-BOOST over, and give me your thoughts IF it contains all that it says it contains, please. > > [Advanced Test-O-Boost 3 Month Supply - Niwali Online Health Store](http://store.niwali.com/advanced-test-o-boost-3-month-supply/) > > Thanks! No I’m not a personal trainer but in the field of Biochemistry. Advanced Test-O-Boost would be a total waste of money, underdosed ingredients and nothing in it really that boost testosterone significantly. I can’t find the links of studies, but here’s some info on Tongkat Ali and Tribulus. Tongkat Ali: Total testosterone levels were not significantly different between those raised (43%) and those declined (39%) in this study (Table 1). This gives an initial impression that LJ100 does not have any effect on steroidogenesis. Tribulus: The aphrodisiac herb Tribulus terrestris does not influence the androgen production in young men. Twenty-one healthy young 20-36 years old men with body weight ranging from 60 to 125 kg were randomly separated into three groups-two experimental (each n=7) and a control (placebo) one (n=7). All results were within the normal range. The findings in the current study anticipate that Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins possess neither direct nor indirect androgen-increasing properties. The study will be extended in the clarifying the probable mode of action of Tribulus terrestris steroid saponins. Panax ginseng is a mental stimulant, like caffeine, can have aphrodisiac enhancing effect. Piper Longun, metabolism enhancer. Zinc, enhances recovery, but not much a of a testosterone booster. Looks like very overdosed as well, might have to supplement with Copper as well to prevent an imbalance. L-Arginine, good for blood flow but very underdosed, need at least 3-5g for some effect. You can also boost testosterone by inhibiting estrogen, for more info check out this website: [Erase Pro ? Hardcore Hormone Modulation in a single capsule dose](http://pescience.com/erasepro) ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2013, 10:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/7 "2013-02-26T10:40:55Z")
Thank you, MUCHO, Still!!! In your HONEST opinion, do you see any dangers of using Erase Pro? Products that has to be cycled makes me nervous (8 weeks on, and 4 weeks off). I was trying to find something other than replacement therapy, but it seems like that may be the better deal as for the youth results I’m after. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/8 "2013-03-06T02:47:52Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Thank you, MUCHO, Still!!! > > In your HONEST opinion, do you see any dangers of using Erase Pro? Products that has to be cycled makes me nervous (8 weeks on, and 4 weeks off). > > I was trying to find something other than replacement therapy, but it seems like that may be the better deal as for the youth results I’m after. There no real dangers of using Erase Pro, the cycling is recommend because over time the product becomes less effective. I have used it and it just makes your body a little dry, less water retention, makes losing fat a little easier on a calorie deficit as well, as it manages cortisol levels. Didn’t feel any difference in well-being or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![HappyHulk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happyhulk/32/1191_2.png) [@HappyHulk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HappyHulk)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/9 "2013-03-07T13:06:46Z")
I’ve used Erase Pro, had bloods done before and after, just be careful as it can cause your triglyceride levels to elevate slightly. Not usually a big deal but mine are already high from genetics+alcohol consumption. I’ve also used DAA, I really liked it but stopped because aside from Whey and an occasional energy booster, I’m tired of supplementation. I used Nutraplanet’s bulk DAA powder. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/10 "2013-03-07T13:23:06Z")
> [@HappyHulk](#): > > I’ve used Erase Pro, had bloods done before and after, just be careful as it can cause your triglyceride levels to elevate slightly. Not usually a big deal but mine are already high from genetics+alcohol consumption. > > I’ve also used DAA, I really liked it but stopped because aside from Whey and an occasional energy booster, I’m tired of supplementation. I used Nutraplanet’s bulk DAA powder. What’s your body weight, Hulk? And did it do anything for your Test levels? I’m tired of supplements, too, which is why I’m considering Testosterone Replacement Therapy to see if it will put that tiger back in my mental tank. I’m on day 5 of Erase Pro, and so far, no new findings. To be continued … Is DAA a test booster? ---
**Author:** ![HappyHulk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happyhulk/32/1191_2.png) [@HappyHulk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HappyHulk)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2013, 1:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/force-factor-test-x180/58260/11 "2013-03-07T13:42:33Z")
I’m currently doing a serious cut, I’m down to 226 @ 6’3", I’m 34 if that matters at all. Unfortunately I didn’t have a total/free test reading done as part of the previously mentioned blood panels ☹ so anything I say is completely anecdotal. That being said, I noticed all the typical physiological effects of raised testosterone. 5 years or so ago I did TRT through my doctor with the Androgel prescription when my total/free test levels were low previously and on erase I noticed a lot of the same effects. I was doing a bulk at the time and it allowed me to gain a dirty 10-12 pounds in 8 weeks. DAA has shown in studies to increase testosterone, yes, here is the brand I bought: [NutraPlanet D-Aspartic Acid (DAA) (100 grams): Discount D-Aspartic Acid Supplements](http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/d-aspartic-acid-daa-80-grams.html) imawildman had a lot of good suggestions in the thread in the main mens forum, I actually went and looked up that doctor in Michigan to see what was up.