# Four weeks of IO, IH, IS and IG at 17 with no results: advice for school settings

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/four-weeks-of-io-ih-is-and-ig-at-17-with-no-results-advice-for-school-settings/54259>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 18, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/four-weeks-of-io-ih-is-and-ig-at-17-with-no-results-advice-for-school-settings/54259 "2012-01-18T21:37:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 1\
**Showing post:** 4

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![arif8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@arif8020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arif8020)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2012, 10:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/four-weeks-of-io-ih-is-and-ig-at-17-with-no-results-advice-for-school-settings/54259/4 "2012-01-19T10:41:51Z")

</div>

Let’s understand one simple fact from the psychological point of view.

When you are in a group or around people who know you already, or are aware of you in a setup, like work place or school in your case, they already have an image about you which is built up with time and experience. This image, opinion, impression about you is registered in the subconscious mind of every individual in that setup and is not consciously controlled or manipulated. Any change in you, visually or non-visually would register, but might take time. Visuals changes are easier to identify while non-visuals (talking about mones here) are more difficult to identify. And when it comes to these non-visuals changes, alterations of the previous impression and image of an individual in the sub-conscious mind takes some time.

I am sure you would have come across a lot of posts on this forum where people have spoken about getting hits at clubs and bars and other places. But it is important to notice that these hits have come from people who do not know them. They do not have any previous image of yours in their subconscious mind and when they meet you for the first time, their subconscious mind is building this image of yours for the first time too. So it is easy to register and identify it for the new people then it is for those who already know you.

Also do keep in mind that at your age and the subjects, that is, the people around you, are all still too young. Maybe these mones are not identifiable by the physics of the human body at such a young age.

If you read more posts on this forum, there are numerous mentions about how much mones you need to use for different age groups. At 17, it is ideally suggested to be the least because the subjects cannot handle beyond that and maybe that’s what is happening with you too.

Do not get disheartened. What I would suggest is, go out with friends to social places where there is a lot of crowd, restaurants, bars, clubs, etc., and see if the mones work for you.

Read this post to understand and identify hits when you see one:

> [@How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333):
>
> Multiple looks. Women have much better If you catch us looking at you more than once, it’s probably becuse we’re attracted and we can’t help it. You catching us looking at all. Women look at you fast. If you catch us looking at you, this may be because we’re attracted. Not always (I get horrified when I see someone catching me looking when I’m not actually interested), but often. You guys have muscle, but we have social muscles. WHen you catch us being less than discreet, we often mean it and/…

Also, I would suggest start really low. Start with maybe just one spray of just one of the product and do not mix anything, atleast not initially. This would help you identify what works and how much do you need apply for it to work.

Remember, you have just started off and just like it is said “You might face failure initially, but do not give up. Keep trying and work your way around”. So keep that in mind. Most of us fail initially, but that does not mean we cannot succeed. We just need to identify what works best for each one of us. Remember, every individual is different and what works for one might be completely suicidal for the other. So experiment as much as you can to find what works the best for you.

All the best…

Regards,

---

_[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/four-weeks-of-io-ih-is-and-ig-at-17-with-no-results-advice-for-school-settings/54259)._
