# Free Pheromones for 10 lucky guys! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 12, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406 "2010-01-12T13:54:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/182 "2010-01-16T03:29:58Z")
Its okay dude. Yeah I didn’t mean he was affiliated with that site I just found something awful XD. Its a good link to prank on someone you know though. Like go to a friends house and use his comp and click on the link and somehow get his parents to come and see the screen Lmao =P. ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/183 "2010-01-16T03:55:00Z")
Haha the facebook chat is perfect for that lol. Iv been Rick rolled and Iv also rick rolled other people. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/184 "2010-01-16T07:15:15Z")
Hello all Nobrain my question to you and nothing to do with pheromones is do you believe in ghosts and afterlife? I myself have come very close to death and seen my car wreck from about 200+ yards in the air when knocked out or dead? With that said can scientist prove after-life? I have know clue if they can? For myself I can say yes. So please test for yourself before you belittle us. As on Tv with the ghost shows they try to find the truth! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/185 "2010-01-16T07:33:27Z")
That’s scary, when you saw that was it like seeing it _in_ a dream? Or was it like seeing it awake? > [@pure social mix... amazing reaction for first time!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pure-social-mix-amazing-reaction-for-first-time/21236/6): > > Hello all > > Nobrain my question to you and nothing to do with pheromones is do you believe in ghosts and afterlife? I myself have come very close to death and seen my car wreck from about 200+ yards in the air when knocked out or dead? With that said can scientist prove after-life? I have know clue if they can? For myself I can say yes. > > So please test for yourself before you belittle us. As on Tv with the ghost shows they try to find the truth! ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/186 "2010-01-16T07:52:41Z")
I would say about five minutes seemed liked seconds to me. Like picture frames from what I can remember. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/187 "2010-01-16T07:55:11Z")
So like picture frames? Not like you seeing me in front of you in person? Pretty scary. > [@Sceptical](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sceptical/20714/17): > > I would say about five minutes seemed liked seconds to me. Like picture frames from what I can remember. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 9:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/188 "2010-01-16T09:51:27Z")
> [@Instant Shine: strange experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-strange-experience/1094/22): > > Absolutely inappropriate ,non professional, and downright immature. I cant believe this individual hasn’t been banned because of spam. This forum is not the appropriate place for No-brain. Im glad I didn’t click it earlier because I was in a crowded university center. Spamming websites is what little high schoolers do. Nobrain, I find it strange that you have been trolling this forum for several days now. I was making a point to now banned PapaWolf, that using Google is not a credible source that can be cited. He was erroneously attacking Androtics with vicious lies that when searched in Google horrible things would appear. I searched EXACTLY as he suggested and NO such horrible things came up anywhere 🙂. So I simply used nobrain’s username to make a point that if you search for him in Google information could be found on him and his business. Some users searched and chose the option of selecting nobrain and “I’m feeling lucky” which brings up a dangerous script of three men in a shower that will not shut down. I was completely unaware, as I’m sure anyone who searched that way was also. It had nothing to do with anyone except some members chosen search patterns. My point was to simply prove that as a businessman nobrain is selling a product based on the truth of his members feedback and yet he has come here attempting to discredit THOUSANDS of customer testimonials of our members. It was simply a point that I felt obligated to point out that perhaps looking at it from a different standpoint would enlighten nobrain to more open dialect instead of demands. It would be just as easy if thousands of members here where to suddenly go around his area, posting reports all over the web and start to do the same thing to discredit him. Its a point for dramatic effects and like I know mostly everyone in this community would not do such a thing. Just the SteveO way of saying hey we can all disagree and still be friends but please take a look at how this appears and how it could also apply right back at you. I’m sorry if you misunderstood what happened. In the meantime I have reported that malicious script to Google for removal. Not something anyone should have to experience, but that’s Google call. ---
**Author:** ![simple\_franky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@simple\_franky](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simple_franky)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/189 "2010-01-16T14:00:47Z")
I have run a placebo test on my mate, i had him use ammo for a week at work and then just straight cologne from the chemist ,joop I think it was,guess what ammo came out on top for women beiing friendlier 100 percent of the time,but it backfired because he wont give me my sample back …oh well such is science ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/190 "2010-01-16T14:06:14Z")
> [@pure social mix... amazing reaction for first time!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pure-social-mix-amazing-reaction-for-first-time/21236/6): > > Hello all > > Nobrain my question to you and nothing to do with pheromones is do you believe in ghosts and afterlife? I myself have come very close to death and seen my car wreck from about 200+ yards in the air when knocked out or dead? With that said can scientist prove after-life? I have know clue if they can? For myself I can say yes. > > So please test for yourself before you belittle us. As on Tv with the ghost shows they try to find the truth! I do not believe in ghosts. I do not think your experience proves afterlife either, but I am very glad that you are now ok! Scary! I am so blessed to have never been in a serious accident. I do think many ghost hunting TV shows are really not out for the truth. Ghosts are wonderful sensational material and somehow disproving them would not equal top $$ for the show. But, to each his own. I cannot prove or disprove the existence of ghosts. ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/191 "2010-01-16T14:17:39Z")
> [@simple\_franky](#): > > I have run a placebo test on my mate, i had him use ammo for a week at work and then just straight cologne from the chemist ,joop I think it was,guess what ammo came out on top for women beiing friendlier 100 percent of the time,but it backfired because he wont give me my sample back …oh well such is science WoW I do love Joop cologne very much …The main scent is frozen vodka…Coool…😛 ---
**Author:** ![dude](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dude/32/2011_2.png) [@dude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dude)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/192 "2010-01-16T16:08:59Z")
> [@Instant Shine: strange experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-strange-experience/1094/21): > > At this point I’d like to make an apology to everyone at PheroTalk for this inappropriate demeaning way this thread has taken. I wanted to ensure the spirit of Androtics was met and ensure John understood personally he was NEVER banned or put on this alleged shit list, so I placed a call to him. > > He was clearly upset and while I tried to reassure him that he was never banned or on a shit list he made some very interesting claims. **First he accused me of deleting his post, which is clear from the link and subsequent comments it never was deleted.** He then told me he knew it was because he is an “experienced” forum guy. I asked him why then he was unable to find the post in his subscribed threads like any experienced forum guy would know. His reply was because it was deleted! > > I asked him if he was searching for it in his “new online persona” and if that was the case indeed he would not find it since it was not subscribed to by the “new online persona” in the first place. Again I was told it was because I deleted it! I brought the fact that it was not deleted up again and asked if he searched for it in his normal user account. He said of he did, which led me to question if he was on this alleged “shit” list, then how was it he was able to use the search function. This time I was told it worked “sometimes”.😕 > > I did my best guys and when he accused me of “not liking him” I questioned this and asked him why I would send a bottle of 4X Ishine @$79.95 with International Shipping for free to someone I didn’t like. I wanted John to be happy. He again asked me then why did you delete my post: [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/very-professional-38325.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/very-professional-38325.html) Once again (I know very patient huh) I asked John what his post, had to do with Men’s Pheromones Tips and Tricks? He said then where should I have posted it? I said there were other areas such as the lounge, maybe the store section but since it had nothing to do with pheromones I felt it was inappropriate to have it there and hence moved it. In hindsight it should be in the store section and I will move it. > > John’s last comment to me after continuously rudely interrupting and speaking over me was “I Know you said that, but that don’t make it true.” My patience was tried and I said at this point John I am banning your accounts and terminating this call. Oh and I canceled the Ishine 4X with International shipping I was sending as a gift of good will to encourage world happiness 🙂. I am a patient man but ask anybody here, I do NOT lie and will not accept anyone calling me a liar. My integrity and honor is my word and I stand by it at all times. > > Once again I apologize to the members of this community for having to deal with unreasonable, unhappy persons who are looking for anything to attack with. And to think by this persons admission they believed TUTH was the solution to their problems. Please there are more important things in this world like the terrible tragedy in Haiti. > > I also want to address the issue of leaving neg reps that call someone hateful names like “fag,” which did happen to not John, but nobrain. That is not how this community operates. You will notice that I have no animosity towards nobrain and I encourage him to call and guess what, he did. He took me up on my offer and when we are able to connect I hope I can be of assistance to him. Repping is designed to be anonymous, but come on, keep the comments mature and helpful. That was just silly and not in the spirit of what we pride ourselves as a community. > > I love you guys and now I need a hug 😛 Steve Looking at his stats which lists only 2 posts I think another moderator did indeed delete his posts. Could be a misunderstanding here. ---
**Author:** ![Ironarm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ironarm/32/1124_2.png) [@Ironarm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ironarm)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/193 "2010-01-16T17:51:42Z")
Wow…look at this explosive thread. So free pheromones eh…well my wallet is running low… All kidding aside, I am surprised at the resistance that NoBrain is getting here. Well, at least some of the resistance. I think that part of the problem is that NoBrain is a bit misunderstood here. Ive read up on his previous posts that apparently he was apart of Anabolic Minds forum (if my memory serves me correctly?), which deals in bodybuilding supplements (which ironically I have an interest in because of my job). Personally, I think Nobrains idea is perfectly fine. In fact, I need to conduct more blind tests with my friends. I already did a double blind in which each of us took a different pheromone product for the day. Since I’m quite new to pheromones and all, I still am a little skeptical, as simplty because I havent been trying them out long enough. However… If the people here are so confidant in the pheromones’ effectiveness, then NoBrains test should be expected, hell, **encouraged**. This is supposed to be a **research** forum and all, correct? Then why the resistance? I read Tisha’s post. > [@Day three - Bad ending!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-three-bad-ending/21111/6): > > I am sorry Wrlprchnx. I didnt see your post saying you would do the test. I know your no fool. You cant know his motivation without knowing who he is. I would get to know him before sending info. I dont think he plans to murder you LOL. > > Think about what I posted below that though… > > It dosent matter what he sends you. I have no doubt you will have no problem testing it. However I have doubts he will admit your correct in your testing and there will be no way to prove him wrong short of sending it to a lab. > > You can say bottle A worked great and he can say there is no pheromones in it. > > You can say bottle B worked great and he can say there is no pheromones in it. > > If he makes a fool out of you it proves his point and it wont be the first time he has done this on a subject. > > Tisha Tisha, that surprises me, you say that he cannot be trusted. Why? Why can’t NoBrain be trusted? Because he is a bit more aggressive on this forum about his research? Because he isnt so cordial to members right off the bat? Tisha, you say that you are an expert in pheromone usage and in testing, yet you say he cannot be trusted just on the basis on his aggressive mannerisms on the forum. You say he an ulterior motives? Heres the thing about the internet; it brings people from all over the globe, from all places, from all environments, into a big world wide web of connections. You cannot truly know who is behind the keyboard. The next poster could secretly be working for a company. I could be. You could be. We dont know, unless we have some concrete evidence to show that he is guilty of malicious intent. Then, by all means. How could we know that some tests posted here are not rigged, or the result of a self fulfilling prophecy rather than the pheromones? The thing is, we are indeed running on the trust and judgement of the members. I think that the 150+ post count already on Nobrain shows that he has at least some sort of interest in these pheromones. Plus, if he was working for some sort of secret company up to do no good, or some other negative intention…think about it…wouldnt he be more **nice** on the forum? I dont think he would be so **blatant** on his skepticism of the pheromones. **However** , On the flip side of things, NoBrain, you would do better in using a bit more diplomatic measures on this forum. As the old saying goes, you get more with honey than you do with vinegar. [http://www.qtl.co.il/img/copy.png](http://www.qtl.co.il/img/copy.png) [http://www.google.com/favicon.ico](http://www.google.com/favicon.ico) [http://www.babylon.com/favicon.ico](http://www.babylon.com/favicon.ico) ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/194 "2010-01-16T17:56:59Z")
> [@It's a report from another mademoiselle ;)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-a-report-from-another-mademoiselle/21264/2): > > Steve Looking at his stats which lists only 2 posts I think another moderator did indeed delete his posts. Could be a misunderstanding here. He started as PapaWolf and no posts were deleted. The one in question was moved. It had nothing to do with pheromones so it was not appropriate to add it there in that section. It was basically an attack on Androtics and yet it is STILL visible and available in the store section as linked. This person then opened another account and even then I did not ban the primary account only the new account, even though it is against forum rules. I still gave him the benefit of doubt and even called him. Only after his repeatedly talking over me, not allowing any explanations and then calling me a liar, did I decide there was no pleasing PapaWolf / PapaJohn and therefore closed his accounts. Perhaps in the future if a rational tone of understanding can be met I could still be persuaded to drop the ban on one of his accounts. Please remember this forum is about community and helping each other out. In the past three days, how many new users were missed or misguided by others because of attempts to appease one person from irrational behaviors based on perceived conspiracy theories. On that note even to this day nobrain is freely posting and not banned or stuck in some “shit list”. Every single user in there initial sign up to this forum experiences a slight delay in all their posts becoming visible as some do get stuck in the wait list. EVERYONE in the store section! It’s SPAM software to prevent SPAM. When a user such as PapaWolf who has been here for a little longer than nobrain, all of a sudden racks up multiple reported posts, and multiple neg reps within a short time the system slows down their posting for review, but does not add them to a “shit list”. Doesn’t happen, no way, no how. We either ban or we don’t, its really that simple. nobrain has racked up 155 posts in a little over a week. Same thing applies. System says hmm maybe SPAM, slow down posting until approved. The issue here came from not wanting to hear anything except what would rationalize an erroneous perception. Not listening and mean spirited attacks for no reason. Life goes on, let’s move on and continue with enjoying it. Thank you for expressing your concerns.😉 ---
**Author:** ![Skelp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@Skelp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Skelp)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/195 "2010-01-16T18:31:27Z")
> [@It's a report from another mademoiselle ;)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-a-report-from-another-mademoiselle/21264/2): > > Steve Looking at his stats which lists only 2 posts I think another moderator did indeed delete his posts. Could be a misunderstanding here. Thank you very much once again Dude for verifying my statements. Funny thing though… All of my posts are now back when you look. You will notice that the thread I created titled “Very Professional”, the one in which I discuss the shit list is the top entry, meaning it was the last post I made under the username Papwolf.. Not so… I had made several other posts AFTER I created that thread… So there SHOULD be several other entries on that list ABOVE the “Very Professional” thread. Either someone forgot to move them back from the trashed posts list or they had used the “permanently delete” option instead of the send to trash list on those particular posts. See Steve, you do NOT have to be subscribe to a thread to see posts in a users post list. All you have to do is click on the person’s username in one of their posts and click “find more posts by username” Where username is the name of the person whose posts you want to search. Try it.. you’ll see I am 100% correct and so will anyone else who tries it. Now… Very shortly after I created the mentioned thread I was making another post. It took me about 15 to 20 minutes to create a single post (including the mentioned thread) due to being on the shit list and getting error pages and slow loading pages, etc… I would have to keep trying over and over again before what I was trying to do would take and it would take quite a while just to accomplish anything. Anyhow… after I finally was successful in submitting the post after the “Very Professional” thread I went back to the main forum list to check other threads. I saw that my thread “Very Professional” was gone. Now.. seeing as how I KNOW about bulletin boards and how they work I assumed someone probably moved it because I do agree that it was off topic for the area I posted it in but I wanted to make sure those who were following the Nobrain thread would see it. That is why I posted it in the same forum as Nobrain’s thread. So, believing my thread was moved I went to my profile page and searched all of my posts and several of my posts were NOT on the list including the “Very Professional” thread I created. I then went back into the Nobrain thread and asked why my thread was deleted. That post was then deleted as well (it’s also one of the ones that is still not on my posts list because whoever deleted must have used the permanent delete option instead of the trash file option)… I then made another post asking why my posts were being deleted… That post was deleted as well and still does not appear on my list. Then when I went into my posts list I saw that, as Dude mentioned, there were only TWO posts on my list when I had originally had 87 posts in my list prior to that when I checked for the “Very Professional” thread. Now the list says I only have 54 posts (after I post this it will say 55). Now… As I mentioned in my “Very professional” thread I used a little trick that certain people know about to be able to see certain behind the scenes things on web sites and bulletin boards. I checked the admin panel and indeed found the “shit list” to be in use. I then clicked the shit list link t see if I was on it and sure enough there I was. My username and IP address were both on the shit list. I took screen captures of this in order to prove it and have them saved on my computer at my company’s office. When I am back at the office I will post the screen captures for all to see. Naturally I won’t post them here because they will obviously be deleted. Anyone who wishes to see these screen captures and know the truth can e-mail me at [skelp65@yahoo.ca](mailto:skelp65@yahoo.ca) and I will give you the link to where I will upload the screen captures. I also have screen captures of my posts list that clearly shows 4 pages of post links and 87 total posts, when you use the setting to show 25 posts per page. All you need to do is click my username to the left of my post here and then click show more posts to see how many posts I have now which is less than 87. > [@Non sexual and non social pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/non-sexual-and-non-social-pheromones/21146/6): > > I was making a point to now banned PapaWolf, that using Google is not a credible source that can be cited. He was erroneously attacking Androtics with vicious lies that when searched in Google horrible things would appear. That is an outright LIE!!! I dare you to copy any post I made lying and attacking Andronics and saying horrible things would appear if you goggled it. Let’s put a little wager on it Steve. If you can NOT prove I posted lies saying horrible things would appear when googling Andronics then you reinstate my Papawolf account here and send me one bottle of Instant Openness and one bottle of Instant Honesty. If you CAN prove it then I will drop this entire subject and never post here again and I will send you the full price of the TUTH I purchased. The worse thing I said was this: > [@31 Male Leaping into Friend Zone, but want more!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/31-male-leaping-into-friend-zone-but-want-more/21083/8): > > Well.. for starters.. I came up with no credible scientific certifications, nothing that denoted AD or Smartmone was the TOP pheromone company as stated here, nothing basically.. except for a bunch of other sites selling their products.. which by the way trace right back to the same owners here. > I DID find a few scam reports though. That is NOT a lie and it does NOT say horrible things would come up on google!!! It is the 100% truth about what comes up if one googles the names of the companies. So… you willing to put your money where your mouth is Steve??? > [@Instant Shine: strange experience](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-shine-strange-experience/1094/21): > > At this point I’d like to make an apology to everyone at PheroTalk for this inappropriate demeaning way this thread has taken. I wanted to ensure the spirit of Androtics was met and ensure John understood personally he was NEVER banned or put on this alleged shit list, so I placed a call to him. > > He was clearly upset and while I tried to reassure him that he was never banned or on a shit list he made some very interesting claims. First he accused me of deleting his post, which is clear from the link and subsequent comments it never was deleted. He then told me he knew it was because he is an “experienced” forum guy. I asked him why then he was unable to find the post in his subscribed threads like any experienced forum guy would know. His reply was because it was deleted! > > I asked him if he was searching for it in his “new online persona” and if that was the case indeed he would not find it since it was not subscribed to by the “new online persona” in the first place. Again I was told it was because I deleted it! I brought the fact that it was not deleted up again and asked if he searched for it in his normal user account. He said of he did, which led me to question if he was on this alleged “shit” list, then how was it he was able to use the search function. This time I was told it worked “sometimes”.😕 > > I did my best guys and when he accused me of “not liking him” I questioned this and asked him why I would send a bottle of 4X Ishine @$79.95 with International Shipping for free to someone I didn’t like. I wanted John to be happy. He again asked me then why did you delete my post: [http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/very-professional-38325.html](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/very-professional-38325.html) Once again (I know very patient huh) I asked John what his post, had to do with Men’s Pheromones Tips and Tricks? He said then where should I have posted it? I said there were other areas such as the lounge, maybe the store section but since it had nothing to do with pheromones I felt it was inappropriate to have it there and hence moved it. In hindsight it should be in the store section and I will move it. > > John’s last comment to me after continuously rudely interrupting and speaking over me was “I Know you said that, but that don’t make it true.” My patience was tried and I said at this point John I am banning your accounts and terminating this call. Oh and I canceled the Ishine 4X with International shipping I was sending as a gift of good will to encourage world happiness 🙂. I am a patient man but ask anybody here, I do NOT lie and will not accept anyone calling me a liar. My integrity and honor is my word and I stand by it at all times. > > Once again I apologize to the members of this community for having to deal with unreasonable, unhappy persons who are looking for anything to attack with. And to think by this persons admission they believed TUTH was the solution to their problems. Please there are more important things in this world like the terrible tragedy in Haiti. > > I also want to address the issue of leaving neg reps that call someone hateful names like “fag,” which did happen to not John, but nobrain. That is not how this community operates. You will notice that I have no animosity towards nobrain and I encourage him to call and guess what, he did. He took me up on my offer and when we are able to connect I hope I can be of assistance to him. Repping is designed to be anonymous, but come on, keep the comments mature and helpful. That was just silly and not in the spirit of what we pride ourselves as a community. > > I love you guys and now I need a hug 😛 Here’s how I will respond to the above post from you Steve. The very first thing you said on the phone after I said hello was “Before we continue John I will inform you that this call is being recorded for quality control purposes.” So… Here’s what I’ll do instead of replying to your above post… I will give you a chance to prove your integrity. Upload a copy of that recorded phone call in its entirety!!! Then let the people decide who is telling the truth here!!! I’m expecting you to have some excuse for NOT posting the call… You can’t use privacy concerns because I am giving you full consent to post it. No trade secrets were exposed during the call. I’m expecting the excuse to be something like it got deleted or something LMAO. So Steve… How about it??? Man enough to accept my challenges??? Or will you simply delete this post to hide the truth??? No worries about you deleting it though because I will be making this exact same post at other forums related to pheromone sales and pheromone forums. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/196 "2010-01-16T18:37:02Z")
YOU ARE 44 YEARS OLD STOP ACTING LIKE A CHILD. Geez, what is wrong with you? Get over it. And now you’re talking about bashing Androtics on other pheromone sites? You need a hobby. And why haven’t you responded to my post yet? What are you avoiding? The truth? You posted on nobrains profile you got positive results from using NPA. Where does your skepticism come from? ---
**Author:** ![dude](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dude/32/2011_2.png) [@dude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dude)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/197 "2010-01-16T18:42:29Z")
> [@mx200, what is in this stuff](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx200-what-is-in-this-stuff/21256/2): > > He started as PapaWolf and no posts were deleted. The one in question was moved. It had nothing to do with pheromones so it was not appropriate to add it there in that section. It was basically an attack on Androtics and yet it is STILL visible and available in the store section as linked. > > This person then opened another account and even then I did not ban the primary account only the new account, even though it is against forum rules. I still gave him the benefit of doubt and even called him. Only after his repeatedly talking over me, not allowing any explanations and then calling me a liar, did I decide there was no pleasing PapaWolf / PapaJohn and therefore closed his accounts. > > Perhaps in the future if a rational tone of understanding can be met I could still be persuaded to drop the ban on one of his accounts. Please remember this forum is about community and helping each other out. In the past three days, how many new users were missed or misguided by others because of attempts to appease one person from irrational behaviors based on perceived conspiracy theories. > > On that note even to this day nobrain is freely posting and not banned or stuck in some “shit list”. Every single user in there initial sign up to this forum experiences a slight delay in all their posts becoming visible as some do get stuck in the wait list. EVERYONE in the store section! It’s SPAM software to prevent SPAM. When a user such as PapaWolf who has been here for a little longer than nobrain, all of a sudden racks up multiple reported posts, and multiple neg reps within a short time the system slows down their posting for review, but does not add them to a “shit list”. Doesn’t happen, no way, no how. We either ban or we don’t, its really that simple. > > nobrain has racked up 155 posts in a little over a week. Same thing applies. System says hmm maybe SPAM, slow down posting until approved. The issue here came from not wanting to hear anything except what would rationalize an erroneous perception. Not listening and mean spirited attacks for no reason. > > Life goes on, let’s move on and continue with enjoying it. Thank you for expressing your concerns.😉 Ok Steve his stats are now back to normal showing 54 posts, probably a glitch. This could have led him to blow his top. He could have created a second account to be able to post smoothly since his posts have come under moderation without knowing he has flouted the board rules. IMO it’s a big misunderstanding. ---
**Author:** ![Skelp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@Skelp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Skelp)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/198 "2010-01-16T18:50:01Z")
> [@How do I shed my "invisible cloak"?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-shed-my-invisible-cloak/21268/2): > > YOU ARE 44 YEARS OLD STOP ACTING LIKE A CHILD. Geez, what is wrong with you? Get over it. And now you’re talking about bashing Androtics on other pheromone sites? You need a hobby. And why haven’t you responded to my post yet? What are you avoiding? The truth? You posted on nobrains profile you got positive results from using NPA. Where does your skepticism come from? I’m acting like a child? Let’s wait and see if Steve accepts my challenges before we decide who the child is. All I did was posted the truth about lies tat are being told. How is that being childish? Where did I say I was going to bash Andronics??? Care to take the same wager I offered Steve??? I said I was going to make this exact same post at other sites… Show me in the post where I bashed Andronics!!! Where does my skeptisism come from… Well.. If that message window I sent that message with wasn’t limited to how many characters I could send I would have been able to explain that I could NOT be 100% certain if the hits I received were actually due to the pheromones or due to the women being intoxicated at the parties or the the fact that the women at work who “SEEMED” to show hits had already shown interest in me in the past so I had no 100% definitive evidence of any hits YET!!! I had indeed included this information when trying to message Nobrian but got the error that I used too many characters and had to trim a great deal from my message. So, my skeptisism comes from the fact that I have no 100% rock solid evidence that the pheromones worked or not yet which is exactly why I purchased TUTH!!! To see if it worked better or got more definitive hits. ---
**Author:** ![Skelp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90db22/32.png) [@Skelp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Skelp)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/199 "2010-01-16T18:57:33Z")
> [@MX203 Report: Blondes?...Try Redheads](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx203-report-blondes-try-redheads/16005/32): > > Ok Steve his stats are now back to normal showing 54 posts, probably a glitch. This could have led him to blow his top. He could have created a second account to be able to post smoothly since his posts have come under moderation without knowing he has flouted the board rules. IMO it’s a big misunderstanding. Actually.. I didn’t blow my top LOL. That’s why I want him to upload a copy of the phone conversation we had. I was pretty calm during the entire call and actually was laughing through a lot of it. And yes yo are correct. The reason I created the PapaJohn account was so I could post without the issues being caused by the shit list. However, I had to take my laptop to a different location on a different IP because my IP was also on the shit list. Once I created the new account on the new IP I could use the site no problem at all with the exact same computer. So that rules out computer problems, which Steve tried to tell me it was. Now to be sure, I took the laptop back to the other location with the IP that was on the shit list, signed in with the PapaJohn account and guess what… error pages, slow loading pages, misdirected links, you name it… This was the ONLY site I had those problems with. I took the laptop back to the IP that was NOT on the shit list again, logged back in with PapaJohn again and voila.. NO problems!!! And you are also correct Dude that I did not know it was against the rules to create another account. ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/200 "2010-01-16T18:59:05Z")
Ok I can already tell you you are not gonna get that girl you are after if the way you act here is and indicator of how you act outside of this forum. Plus, you really demonstrated a lack of knowledge on your post in very professional. Congratulations, you are not accomplishing anything here. ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/201 "2010-01-16T19:04:21Z")
Look, if we’re all honest I think it is obvious that Steve or someone at AD did try to silence people they felt were acting inappropriately. This happened, I know for certian it happened to me. My IP was put on a list and even though I could easily access the site from another IP, from my own it was always “busy”. Since I have had a nice conversation with AD my access never hits the busy signal; before it was 100%… Let just agree to move forward. Nobody is perfect be it me, or Steve, or PapaWolf. We all sometimes make decisions we later regret and we all sometimes say things that are out-of-character with who we are and what we believe. We have to accept this as part of life and we have to be able to admit and apologize when it happens. Steve seems like a quality guy with a big heart, and PapaWolf seems like a genuine person with plenty of passion. The rest of this is all just forum heat. Chances are that many of us on the forum would get along well if we met under other circumstances. I am sorry for any posts I have made that crossed the line from educational and concerned to aggressive and assumptive. Sorry to everyone, I have been working on toning down my rhetoric. I have embarassed myself in some posts and have strayed from the fabric of which I live my life. Sorry. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406.md?page=9) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406.md?page=11)