# Free Pheromones for 10 lucky guys! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 12, 2010, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406 "2010-01-12T13:54:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/142 "2010-01-15T00:53:53Z")
> [@Ammunition + My normal cologne?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-my-normal-cologne/21103/4): > > Do the google… Type “Androtics Pheromone Research” exactly as I just did with the quote marks. Then do the same with Smartmones. See.. that way you can’t say I posted lies… you’ll see it for yourself. I’m sorry if I didn’t explain myself to you correctly. Speaking scientifically as you are obviously so well versed you will clearly understand that Google is a search engine and not a scientific, nor literary source that can be cited. It uses algorithms based on previous searches by other persons. Even so I wanted to give you the benefit of doubt and as such I searched exactly as you suggested. AndroticsDirect and SmartMones ARE our company and as such why would they not lead you back to us? [A314.com](http://A314.com), again ours and leads back to us, we make no qualms about that. So what is the point here? There is some site that promotes HGH that comes up in that search too, which I know is from their review on amazon of A314 and how A314, “after ingestion” does not promote HGH! By God if you are ingesting A314 you got bigger issues than I can help you with! > [@31 Male Leaping into Friend Zone, but want more!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/31-male-leaping-into-friend-zone-but-want-more/21083/8): > > Well.. for starters.. I came up with no credible scientific certifications, nothing that denoted AD or Smartmone was the TOP pheromone company as stated here, nothing basically.. except for a bunch of other sites selling their products.. which by the way trace right back to the same owners here. > I DID find a few scam reports though. > [@E Game](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/e-game/21112/3): > > I DID cite my source.. GOOGLE!!! I even posted exactly how to use it the same way I did so those who wished to corroborate or refute my claims would get the same results I did. > I didn’t say AD sold other companies products.. I said I found other site selling AD products and all those sites traced back here, meaning they were registered to the same owners of this site.. > I haven’t once said pheromone don’t work. I never once said AD’s products don’t work. I haven’t even so much as implied it in the slightest bit. I have in fact stated several times I ordered Turn Up The Heat and will post my results on it. > That said.. I encourage you to read a little more carefully before you start jumping on someone. I encourage you to write a little more carefully as you still have not come up with any site selling Androtics products except Androtics 😛. OH, there is [Love-Scent.com](http://Love-Scent.com) and they sell A314, but that’s because Bruce is a great guy. So I’m still waiting for this revealing evidence you are purporting as factual truth using a search in Google as a cited source. I’m very glad you did buy TUTH and perhaps I can be of assistance to you. Pheromones can change your world and enlighten your social awareness, but only if the person is willing to be aware. I’m happy you took the first step and yet at the same time from reading your posted message on nobrain’s profile it is evident you have tried some other products. I’m sorry you didn’t get results where so many others have, but again, I’d be willing to assist you 🙂. nobrain seems like he could be a nice guy, I mean after all he’s into sales and eBay, but I’m still confused by what he is trying to accomplish. I read the reviews for his website and I’m surprised that a person who offers no proof except from the limited reviews of the people who tried his product is not willing to accept reviews in the tens of thousands and yet he is asking his potential customers to do the very same on a much more limited basis. All I did was use your technique of Google on his name, which I thank you for 🙂. But my offer still stands to you and to nobrain. I am willing to assist you in whichever way I can. Although mikotorocks has a valid point. The entire website is dedicated to research and fun and yet countless reports of members NOT getting desired results. You should try a search on that 😉. Then there’s this thread by mark-in-dallas where he sent out completely blind bottles to some members to review: [Three Blind Mice!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/three-blind-mice/27107) The results were amazing considering how none of the testers knew what they had but got exactly the same type of known responses from everyone else. Isn’t this exactly what you are proposing and yet has been already carried out? Again I encourage a search friendly person, such as yourself, to use the search function. Of course with delving a bit deeper into the forum you will come across the “famed” researcher Dr. James V Khol published as one of the worlds renowned pheromone researcher who also posts on this site. Seems odd a man of his scientific credentials would post on this site if it was all hype. Well the offer stands, if you want assistance all you have to do is ask 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/143 "2010-01-15T00:57:33Z")
Ha, ha really? Interesting… 🆒 > [@Newb from Australia, broken heart](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/newb-from-australia-broken-heart/20908/12): > > nobrain seems like he could be a nice guy, I mean after all he’s into sales and eBay, but I’m still confused by what he is trying to accomplish. I read the reviews for his website and I’m surprised that a person who offers no proof except from the limited reviews of the people who tried his product is not willing to accept reviews in the tens of thousands and yet he is asking his potential customers to do the very same on a much more limited basis. All I did was use your technique of Google on his name, which I thank you for 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![PapaWolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/papawolf/32/1636_2.png) [@PapaWolf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PapaWolf)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/144 "2010-01-15T00:58:54Z")
> [@Ammo Buzz](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-buzz/21122/3): > > No-one here EXPECTS everyone to blindly trust the company. Damn… from all the attacks I’ve seen in here I’d say you’re wrong… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/145 "2010-01-15T01:01:06Z")
> [@Silly Question??](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/silly-question/21099/4): > > So then why are all these people so afraid to have Nobrain do his tests??? For one thing nobrain is an Internet marketer! The second thing is why haven’t you signed on yet and if you have start yourself a testing thread and start reporting. Why are YOU so afraid of that? I’ve read that other members are sending this person their name and address so again you are now blowing hot smoke with zero substance 😕! I’m going to have the lab send you out some 4X Ishine. It will help 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/146 "2010-01-15T01:06:32Z")
Ahhh, just classic. The truth comes out. How rich. > [@diamond's journal "clinging on to the wreckage"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/diamonds-journal-clinging-on-to-the-wreckage/20976/13): > > For one thing nobrain is an Internet marketer! The second thing is why haven’t you signed on yet and if you have start yourself a testing thread and start reporting. Why are YOU so afraid of that? I’ve read that other members are sending this person their name and address so again you are now blowing hot smoke with zero substance 😕! > > I’m going to have the lab send you out some 4X Ishine. It will help 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![PapaWolf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/papawolf/32/1636_2.png) [@PapaWolf](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PapaWolf)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/147 "2010-01-15T01:08:05Z")
> [@Ammo Test Pack reports](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-test-pack-reports/20241/16): > > That’s pretty much what this entire section of the forum is. Most of us keep journal logs on the site too so we can track our own progress and other people can give legitimate feedback and insight. > > And by making it only accessible to ‘testers’ or ‘experienced users’ would defeat the entire purpose of this forum. We welcome new people to try the products and keep us updated on their progress or lack thereof. If you would spend any time reading and going through the threads you would see the length and depth of the discussion in a lot of these posts. I have found a wealth of knowledge from people that has helped me and I’m sure the information has helped many others too. > > Granted there is more room here for additional things to cause ‘distractions’ but such is the flow of conversation and communication exchange. > > Maybe you should actually read the forum a bit more before making such comments. Actually it’s you who needs to do some reading. I didn’t say it would only be accessible to those people. I said only those people could POST. That way others can’t come in and start bashing and flaming and such as has happened here. ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/148 "2010-01-15T01:12:30Z")
> [@Its raining in Seattle! Not On ScentJunkie though](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/its-raining-in-seattle-not-on-scentjunkie-though/21081/9): > > Actually it’s you who needs to do some reading. I didn’t say it would only be accessible to those people. I said only those people could POST. That way others can’t come in and start bashing and flaming and such as has happened here. We welcome new users and their questions. And how are new users supposed to become experienced users if they aren’t allowed to post 🙄. ---
**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/149 "2010-01-15T01:13:02Z")
LOUD NOISES… yea I’m a jackass 😉 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/150 "2010-01-15T01:14:26Z")
> [@Why Women Like Fat Guys \<3](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/why-women-like-fat-guys-3/20754/8): > > LOUD NOISES… > > yea I’m a jackass 😉 [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOC-hDULX1c](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOC-hDULX1c) ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/151 "2010-01-15T01:26:05Z")
Steve is a class act. At least he’s willing to work with you on this and in a lot of ways he’s the ambassador of the company (not owner as might be misconstrued). Essentially forums of any kind will always have some sort of flaming or bashing whether or not its looked down upon unless it truly gets out of hand and one of the moderators steps in to ban a user or close the thread. Its funny you know I usually play the diplomat sort of role in my everyday affairs as most of my friends consider me a “fence sitter” meaning that I don’t like to take sides no matter what situation. I like to see things resolved swiftly and effectively. The problem here is that the scale of the argument has been put out of balance by what has been said and fairness no longer exists. The only outside force of people I could trust to truly verify this pheromone experiment is the Supreme Court themselves. That being said mostly any individual is capable of sugar coating or dismissing what was either said or experienced in order to somehow coax people into their own understanding. ---
**Author:** ![Dancing\_Joker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dancing_joker/32/1924_2.png) [@Dancing\_Joker](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dancing_Joker)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/152 "2010-01-15T02:04:16Z")
In reference to the recent skeptics out there - you have doubts? By all means, knock yourself out if you’re skeptical about pheromones. Everyone has a right to decide what to believe for themselves. By that same token, do not seek to deprive others of the opportunity to test out the products and decide for themselves whether pheromones work for them. We’ll file your judgements under the “no results” section and move on. The pheromones at Androtics aren’t for everyone, and if you aren’t even open to the possibilities that exist or are unwilling to invest the time and effort needed to realize those possibilities, then you should consider another hobby or lifestyle. If you are willing to keep an open mind and commitment to yourself to fairly test these products, then good luck and have enjoy all the fun times to come! 😃 If you honestly don’t believe pheromones work, the simplest thing would be not to use them. No effort or investment involved! 😮 To actively log onto the forum and try desperately to convince other people, however, DOES involve effort and intent, and therefore, an ulterior motive. Why are you here trying to change other people’s minds? Don’t other people deserve the opportunity to decide for themselves, as you have for yourself? If you don’t respect the views and experiences of others, why should you expect them to respect yours? As to the assertion that people are acting defensive, it’s **COMMON SENSE** to expect people to get upset when you join the forum, with no established background, reputation, credentials, contributions, or experience, and seek to tell users who have been here far longer and done their homework and testing that they’re wrong, right? How can you make an assertion about products that you haven’t even tested yet? Yet for some reason, it’s not just about you - you want other people to believe the way you do, whether they like it or not. Whether that is because of a narcissistic fascination with oneself to be right and the center of attention, or an underhanded attempt from competitors to cast doubt and suspicion on the products that Androtics offers, or perhaps some other unknown explanation, it is a true disservice to everyone out there who wishes to improve their lives and are willing to test these products and decide FOR THEMSELVES. If you seek to challenge an established position or view, the burden of proof is ultimately on YOU to supply the evidence and support for your claim. Unlike politics, accusations alone do not carry any weight in the scientific arena. Whether you live in a country like the U.S. or not, where laws hold that people are innocent until proven guilty, your claims that pheromones don’t work need to be supported by evidence that YOU provide, not the other way around for the contrary. People who have already used and tested pheromones do not need to provide ANY evidence to counter your claim, because they know that they work and have made up their minds. YOU are the one trying to change THEIR opinions, after all. Trying to run around and put people on the defensive by asking them to “PROVE IT!!! PROVE IT!!!” only serves to undermine your sincerity and efforts and make them wonder about your motives, especially if you haven’t even bothered to spend time or effort towards proving your own position first. Since it has been established through your multitude of posts that you already have an agenda and a quest to prove that pheromones don’t work, offering to do a test is moot since you have already resigned yourself to looking for specific results to prove your position. That’s not science - that’s manipulation. There can therefore be no assurances that the results with be either accurate or verifiably correct, as Tisha pointed out earlier. However, this does not matter because, ultimately, you have already made up your minds, and nothing will change that. What IS important is that other people out there, especially the new members that have just joined up for the first time, have the opportunity to make this decision for themselves, **BY THEMSELVES** , on their own. The only way that will happen is if they test the products and decide if and what pheromones work for them, without outside influence. They are perfectly capable of discovering the truth for themselves 🙂 If this is an effort by Androtics’ competitors to sow doubt and discord and cast suspicion on its products, then I am not disheartened but rather encouraged that they see Androtics as such a serious threat and feel the need to resort to such tactics. How can these products not work when they go through all this trouble, past and present, to stop them, right? The funny thing is that Androtics has not even scratched the surface of what its products are capable of. With many of the new putatives and mixes, Androtics has the ability to steamroll the competition once it gets everything settled in place and ready to go for mass production. If they’re afraid now, just wait until they see what comes later! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/153 "2010-01-15T02:13:16Z")
[http://members.cox.net/image\_hosting2/forum/ownedCARnRETARD.jpeg](http://members.cox.net/image_hosting2/forum/ownedCARnRETARD.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jakeable83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f1d935/32.png) [@jakeable83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jakeable83)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/154 "2010-01-15T02:22:54Z")
> [@Searching For The truth and Space Aliens In New Mexico](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-the-truth-and-space-aliens-in-new-mexico/21128/4): > > If you seek to challenge an established position or view, the burden of proof is ultimately on YOU to supply the evidence and support for your claim. Can you please cite your source to prove where the burden of proof lies? so its clear I was being silly sorry if that was inappropriate I couldn’t resist 😃! ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/155 "2010-01-15T02:34:11Z")
I think DJ is just saying that they gotta “Bring it” asking us to bring it is a dumbfounded thing to do and they themselves carry the weight on their own shoulders in order to show US what their made of. You’d think that the person that makes the challenge will make the first move and thats what i believe DJ is getting at. I guess the problem is the cards haven’t even been dealt yet and accusations are already superfluous that aren’t within the parameters of reason. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/156 "2010-01-15T02:53:55Z")
Well said, well said! _Claps._ > [@Searching For The truth and Space Aliens In New Mexico](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-the-truth-and-space-aliens-in-new-mexico/21128/4): > > In reference to the recent skeptics out there - you have doubts? By all means, knock yourself out if you’re skeptical about pheromones. Everyone has a right to decide what to believe for themselves. By that same token, do not seek to deprive others of the opportunity to test out the products and decide for themselves whether pheromones work for them. We’ll file your judgements under the “no results” section and move on. The pheromones at Androtics aren’t for everyone, and if you aren’t even open to the possibilities that exist or are unwilling to invest the time and effort needed to realize those possibilities, then you should consider another hobby or lifestyle. If you are willing to keep an open mind and commitment to yourself to fairly test these products, then good luck and have enjoy all the fun times to come! 😃 > > If you honestly don’t believe pheromones work, the simplest thing would be not to use them. No effort or investment involved! 😮 To actively log onto the forum and try desperately to convince other people, however, DOES involve effort and intent, and therefore, an ulterior motive. Why are you here trying to change other people’s minds? Don’t other people deserve the opportunity to decide for themselves, as you have for yourself? If you don’t respect the views and experiences of others, why should you expect them to respect yours? As to the assertion that people are acting defensive, it’s **COMMON SENSE** to expect people to get upset when you join the forum, with no established background, reputation, credentials, contributions, or experience, and seek to tell users who have been here far longer and done their homework and testing that they’re wrong, right? How can you make an assertion about products that you haven’t even tested yet? > > Yet for some reason, it’s not just about you - you want other people to believe the way you do, whether they like it or not. Whether that is because of a narcissistic fascination with oneself to be right and the center of attention, or an underhanded attempt from competitors to cast doubt and suspicion on the products that Androtics offers, or perhaps some other unknown explanation, it is a true disservice to everyone out there who wishes to improve their lives and are willing to test these products and decide FOR THEMSELVES. > > If you seek to challenge an established position or view, the burden of proof is ultimately on YOU to supply the evidence and support for your claim. Unlike politics, accusations alone do not carry any weight in the scientific arena. Whether you live in a country like the U.S. or not, where laws hold that people are innocent until proven guilty, your claims that pheromones don’t work need to be supported by evidence that YOU provide, not the other way around for the contrary. People who have already used and tested pheromones do not need to provide ANY evidence to counter your claim, because they know that they work and have made up their minds. YOU are the one trying to change THEIR opinions, after all. Trying to run around and put people on the defensive by asking them to “PROVE IT!!! PROVE IT!!!” only serves to undermine your sincerity and efforts and make them wonder about your motives, especially if you haven’t even bothered to spend time or effort towards proving your own position first. > > Since it has been established through your multitude of posts that you already have an agenda and a quest to prove that pheromones don’t work, offering to do a test is moot since you have already resigned yourself to looking for specific results to prove your position. That’s not science - that’s manipulation. There can therefore be no assurances that the results with be either accurate or verifiably correct, as Tisha pointed out earlier. However, this does not matter because, ultimately, you have already made up your minds, and nothing will change that. What IS important is that other people out there, especially the new members that have just joined up for the first time, have the opportunity to make this decision for themselves, **BY THEMSELVES** , on their own. The only way that will happen is if they test the products and decide if and what pheromones work for them, without outside influence. They are perfectly capable of discovering the truth for themselves 🙂 > > If this is an effort by Androtics’ competitors to sow doubt and discord and cast suspicion on its products, then I am not disheartened but rather encouraged that they see Androtics as such a serious threat and feel the need to resort to such tactics. How can these products not work when they go through all this trouble, past and present, to stop them, right? The funny thing is that Androtics has not even scratched the surface of what its products are capable of. With many of the new putatives and mixes, Androtics has the ability to steamroll the competition once it gets everything settled in place and ready to go for mass production. If they’re afraid now, just wait until they see what comes later! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![scotties123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@scotties123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/scotties123)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/157 "2010-01-15T02:59:33Z")
I think this entire situation has shown that this is a community that stands together, and I’m damn proud to be a part of it. ---
**Author:** ![bedojo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bedojo/32/1027_2.png) [@bedojo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bedojo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/158 "2010-01-15T04:28:36Z")
i know they work 😃 (i didn’t bother reading who thread) i haven’t posted in a LONG @ss time. haven’t been online much, well atcually haven’t had internet for a while 😃 bought a new car and some stuff for the car and did without net for a bit 😛 but i been in a relation ship for a while, haven’t been using pheros much, she didn’t like (she didn’t like cologne). but single as of a few weeks ago, just been wearing cologne. then today i opened up the top draw of my desk dab’ed on some a314, sprayed some instant shine, and everyone seemed to notice me, this hot (8) Asian chick just got done hitting on me at work lol. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/159 "2010-01-15T05:52:52Z")
> [@Day three - Bad ending!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/day-three-bad-ending/21111/13): > > i know they work 😃 > (i didn’t bother reading who thread) > i haven’t posted in a LONG @ss time. haven’t been online much, well atcually haven’t had internet for a while 😃 bought a new car and some stuff for the car and did without net for a bit 😛 > but i been in a relation ship for a while, haven’t been using pheros much, she didn’t like (she didn’t like cologne). but single as of a few weeks ago, just been wearing cologne. then today i opened up the top draw of my desk dab’ed on some a314, sprayed some instant shine, and everyone seemed to notice me, this hot (8) Asian chick just got done hitting on me at work lol. And I’ll be calling you tomorrow too. As you know I have not been feeling well. I have been out of commission since Friday. This new girl was too much and she broke me 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![spicehot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spicehot/32/530_2.png) [@spicehot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spicehot)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/160 "2010-01-15T10:42:46Z")
Man, that was beautiful! Way to go DJ.😉 > [@Searching For The truth and Space Aliens In New Mexico](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/searching-for-the-truth-and-space-aliens-in-new-mexico/21128/4): > > In reference to the recent skeptics out there - you have doubts? By all means, knock yourself out if you’re skeptical about pheromones. Everyone has a right to decide what to believe for themselves. By that same token, do not seek to deprive others of the opportunity to test out the products and decide for themselves whether pheromones work for them. We’ll file your judgements under the “no results” section and move on. The pheromones at Androtics aren’t for everyone, and if you aren’t even open to the possibilities that exist or are unwilling to invest the time and effort needed to realize those possibilities, then you should consider another hobby or lifestyle. If you are willing to keep an open mind and commitment to yourself to fairly test these products, then good luck and have enjoy all the fun times to come! 😃 > > If you honestly don’t believe pheromones work, the simplest thing would be not to use them. No effort or investment involved! 😮 To actively log onto the forum and try desperately to convince other people, however, DOES involve effort and intent, and therefore, an ulterior motive. Why are you here trying to change other people’s minds? Don’t other people deserve the opportunity to decide for themselves, as you have for yourself? If you don’t respect the views and experiences of others, why should you expect them to respect yours? As to the assertion that people are acting defensive, it’s **COMMON SENSE** to expect people to get upset when you join the forum, with no established background, reputation, credentials, contributions, or experience, and seek to tell users who have been here far longer and done their homework and testing that they’re wrong, right? How can you make an assertion about products that you haven’t even tested yet? > > Yet for some reason, it’s not just about you - you want other people to believe the way you do, whether they like it or not. Whether that is because of a narcissistic fascination with oneself to be right and the center of attention, or an underhanded attempt from competitors to cast doubt and suspicion on the products that Androtics offers, or perhaps some other unknown explanation, it is a true disservice to everyone out there who wishes to improve their lives and are willing to test these products and decide FOR THEMSELVES. > > If you seek to challenge an established position or view, the burden of proof is ultimately on YOU to supply the evidence and support for your claim. Unlike politics, accusations alone do not carry any weight in the scientific arena. Whether you live in a country like the U.S. or not, where laws hold that people are innocent until proven guilty, your claims that pheromones don’t work need to be supported by evidence that YOU provide, not the other way around for the contrary. People who have already used and tested pheromones do not need to provide ANY evidence to counter your claim, because they know that they work and have made up their minds. YOU are the one trying to change THEIR opinions, after all. Trying to run around and put people on the defensive by asking them to “PROVE IT!!! PROVE IT!!!” only serves to undermine your sincerity and efforts and make them wonder about your motives, especially if you haven’t even bothered to spend time or effort towards proving your own position first. > > Since it has been established through your multitude of posts that you already have an agenda and a quest to prove that pheromones don’t work, offering to do a test is moot since you have already resigned yourself to looking for specific results to prove your position. That’s not science - that’s manipulation. There can therefore be no assurances that the results with be either accurate or verifiably correct, as Tisha pointed out earlier. However, this does not matter because, ultimately, you have already made up your minds, and nothing will change that. What IS important is that other people out there, especially the new members that have just joined up for the first time, have the opportunity to make this decision for themselves, **BY THEMSELVES** , on their own. The only way that will happen is if they test the products and decide if and what pheromones work for them, without outside influence. They are perfectly capable of discovering the truth for themselves 🙂 > > If this is an effort by Androtics’ competitors to sow doubt and discord and cast suspicion on its products, then I am not disheartened but rather encouraged that they see Androtics as such a serious threat and feel the need to resort to such tactics. How can these products not work when they go through all this trouble, past and present, to stop them, right? The funny thing is that Androtics has not even scratched the surface of what its products are capable of. With many of the new putatives and mixes, Androtics has the ability to steamroll the competition once it gets everything settled in place and ready to go for mass production. If they’re afraid now, just wait until they see what comes later! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![nobrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90ced4/32.png) [@nobrain](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nobrain)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2010, 12:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406/161 "2010-01-15T12:42:16Z")
Where am I saying people are wrong? Find it and show me. Well, you will probably never get this post, I have been ‘IP BLOCKED’. Congrats AD! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406.md?page=7) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pheromones-for-10-lucky-guys/35406.md?page=9)