# Free pivot (female wingman): LA Area **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 3, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837 "2006-11-03T22:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/1 "2006-11-03T22:15:09Z")
I’m going to make myself available as a pivot (a female “wingman” who helps you scope out chickadees) and for product testing in the LA area, ala The Game. Just pay my way into wherever you want to go, and maybe buy me a drink or something, and both me and our catalog of mixes is yours. I’m a mommy, so I’m available for an hour or so at a time, but it would be a lot of fun! In fact, I can guar-on-tee you’ll have a blast!! If you’re interested, just post here or send me a PM, and we’ll chat about it. PM fast, 'cuz I already have a few takers, like the lean mean muscle machine Taoist Biker (smart guy!) ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/2 "2006-11-03T22:18:13Z")
Personally, I think Michael should be paying for a flight to Glasgow for you right now, Jasmin… ^\_~ Oh..the clubs we could hit, the places I could take you - the scenery we have here.. ^\_\_\_^ Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 11:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/3 "2006-11-03T23:04:30Z")
Oh that sounds like a great idea. You know, wouldn’t it be fun if all of us Phero-chicks could get together? That would be a blast. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/4 "2006-11-03T23:05:32Z")
Wow I wish I lived in LA, although I am going there in a couple of months. Lemme know if you’re ever in Texas ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/5 "2006-11-03T23:38:48Z")
Hmmmm May have to take that hour’s drive. ---
**Author:** ![Big\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/53a042/32.png) [@Big\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Big_M)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/6 "2006-11-04T01:54:11Z")
Jasmin planning any trips to Chicago ?😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 3:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/7 "2006-11-12T03:58:52Z")
Only got a sec, but I met and pivoted for my first “subject” last night, PheroQuirk. What an _aaaaamazing_ man! I’m so glad I finally got to meet him. We got along instantly. Aside from all the bonding and good times, we did mostly IOI / “hitspotting”, and worked on debugging gestures a bit. Maybe tonight or tommorow we’ll do Annihilation Method, woohoo! More later. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/8 "2006-11-13T06:24:21Z")
OMG, there’s TONS of pictures online now of what we did last night with [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) and simple pua stuff anybody can learn… but I don’t know if I’m allowed to share 'em. If anyone is interested, I’ll ask. Off to another night of Mystery & Mayhem with The Quirk and the Neil Strauss gang here in Hollywood. > **[Scorpion Hollywood – Cast and Crew](https://scorpionhollywood.com/)** I can’t wait to test, train and just have fun with the rest of you guys! It’s a \ ***BLAST**!!! \*I was a little skittish at first, but it’s much easier and wayyyy more fun than I ever thought. “Phero Game” or at least Phero Enhanced Game seems to be beat the pants off of “The Game” quite a bit, too. More later! ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/9 "2006-11-13T22:01:06Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > … > “Phero Game” or at least Phero Enhanced Game seems to be beat the pants off of “The Game” quite a bit, too. > > More later! Let me know when you get around to “beating the PANTIES off…” 😮 Sorry, been a long day… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/11 "2006-11-14T00:01:31Z")
Jasmin your a cutie pie. We could totally hang out if I lived in LA. ---
**Author:** ![ilsa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ilsa/32/1552_2.png) [@ilsa](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ilsa)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 1:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/12 "2006-11-14T01:02:21Z")
Jasmin, I am soooooo jealous. You get to have all the fun! I wish I lived closer. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 9:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/13 "2006-11-14T09:19:08Z")
> [@countesszero](#): > > Jasmin your a cutie pie. We could totally hang out if I lived in LA. > [@ilsa](#): > > Jasmin, I am soooooo jealous. You get to have all the fun! I wish I lived closer. Yes! Where are my women when I need them! ---
**Author:** ![bkshilo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@bkshilo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bkshilo)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2006, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/14 "2006-11-14T23:13:52Z")
Jasmin, you’re looking pretty cute in those pics. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/15 "2006-11-17T17:40:33Z")
Jasmin, did you wear any pheromones around Mr. Neil? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/16 "2006-11-22T14:13:06Z")
Just a quick message as lots to catch up on since I came back. Jasmin is a pivot with super-powers, able to detect IOIs from 25m away and open sets merely by a quizzical inflection of the eyebrow. She’s also v cool and a lot of fun to hang out with. And of course J is a social proof machine 🆒 Wearing 'mones regularly and paying attention helps over time to erode the edges of male pattern blindness, but it’s so enlightening to be made aware of the nuances of peoples reactions to one’s phero-enhanced presence. And LA is such a fertile testing ground… Having this kind of feedback based on uber-skillful observations (wrt mone responses and to your general game) can I think accelerate your progress and allow you to get past sticking points you might not even be aware of. (Jas helped lots with a couple of mine). I think there’s also lots to be gained by calibrating modulation of mone signature according to the situation and you’ll get there much more quickly with the aid of Jasmin’s superheroine powers. I was wearing (amongst other things) a relatively high dose of androstenedione and had thought this to be fairly harmless. But walking down Sunset we (okay, Jasmin) noticed alpha girls pulling her friends protectively back from the scary nedione-monster and a couple of other negative reactions also. > [@](#): > > Neil didn’t really do any PUA stuff on me at all. Haha, but wasn’t this this high-level Jedi mind game? 😃 It’s all fair though, because maybe Neil is sure that ‘really pheromones don’t affect me at all’ 😃 Just teasing. > [@](#): > > He was actually very polite and treated me as an equal. We got along great together, and I think he just wants me as a buddy and confidante. He acted like I was the kind of person he sees in action, and says inside his **“She NEEDS to be my friend”.** Not surprised by this at all… 🆒 Anyone in the LA area should jump at this opportunity… It’s one thing to have an unknowing friend acting as pivot but one learns so much more from somebody skilled in social dynamics and aware at a rational level of how things work. Was v cool to meet you J and thanks for hanging out - hope to come by LA again sometime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 2:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/17 "2006-11-22T14:24:17Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > I was wearing (amongst other things) a relatively high dose of androstenedione and had thought this to be fairly harmless. But walking down Sunset we (okay, Jasmin) noticed alpha girls pulling her friends protectively back from the scary nedione-monster and a couple of other negative reactions also. The 2 times I used A-dione it felt like I have a 2lb piece or raw meat over my head. Any other effects you saw, that you could isolate to A-dione ? ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/18 "2006-11-22T14:50:42Z")
> [@Mak](#): > > The 2 times I used A-dione it felt like I have a 2lb piece or raw meat over my head. > > Any other effects you saw, that you could isolate to A-dione ? Girls wanted to marinate you and eat you for dinner ? ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/19 "2006-11-22T15:35:17Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > I was wearing (amongst other things) a relatively high dose of androstenedione and had thought this to be fairly harmless. But walking down Sunset we (okay, Jasmin) noticed alpha girls pulling her friends protectively back from the scary nedione-monster and a couple of other negative reactions also. Was the response more intense than Androstenone? What kind of dose are we talking about here? Has it worked well for you in the past? Sorry, too many questions! 😃 But this is too interseting. Never saw anyone mention the response of androstenedione before. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/20 "2006-11-22T15:43:27Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Was the response more intense than Androstenone? What kind of dose are we talking about here? Has it worked well for you in the past? > Sorry, too many questions! 😃 But this is too interseting. Never saw anyone mention the response of androstenedione before. Thanks! I wouldn’t particularly recommend this unless you live outside the United States. There are some unresolved regulatory issues. It is a very different vibe from none though. Possibly closer to the effects of testosterone used as a 'mone as described by surfs\_up on the LS board. It does grab attention and create interest but in a more low-key way than 'none. No outright aggression and much less scariness. There is other stuff going on that I haven’t yet been able to pin down. ---
**Author:** ![bronzie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@bronzie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bronzie)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837/21 "2006-11-22T17:24:53Z")
> [@PheroQuirk](#): > > There are some unresolved regulatory issues. Quirk, what do you mean by this? [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/free-pivot-female-wingman-la-area/837.md?page=2)