# From California with Love **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [December 8, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775 "2008-12-08T21:39:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.TDub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mr.TDub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.TDub)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/1 "2008-12-08T21:39:45Z")
Hi! I’m a 38 male from California. I’m really curious about the use of these pheremones because my wife of 16 years has decided that she needs to go out in the world and stand on her own two feet. My wife does come home about two or three nights a week to bring the kids back home and we still hold hands and lay in bed talking for hours, so I know she still has feeling for me, but I just can’y seem to break that wall she has put up. I have never had trouble getting laid or talking to any girl I want, I guess that’s part of the reason she has been trying to leave. I mean my best friend is a 22 year old beauty. I often have a different girl bring me lunch everyday of the week, but I don’t have sex with any of them. I just need something to break that “ice wall” she has put up. My lets me touch her and hug her and feel, but no going all the way. I need something!!! I’m in love with my high school prom date, still!!! ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/2 "2008-12-08T22:23:50Z")
Hi, welcome to the forum. Can you tell us about your personality? What about your wife’s personality? When you say stand on her own two feet, are you saying she wants to get a job or to leave you? You realise that [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can help, but only so much, as you’re ultimately driving the bus. I look forward to your reply. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/3 "2008-12-08T22:31:55Z")
Hey there, Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 I separated your post for you so you have your own thread. Makes it less confusing for members to respond with the right info and for you to find it later. Robbie has some excellent questions that will help us better fit you with products. Please read “what mones can do and what they cant do” The link is in my signature below. While mones can influence and give you a edge they can not change her mind or fix a relationship. They can arouse her and she may act on that arousal but that wont solve the original problem. I just want you to know this upfront before you decide if you want to try the products. If you do decide to try them … I suggest IH for a close connected comfortable feeling, I know you tend to have this with her, from what you have posted but people put up walls because of discomfort so this may help open her up more about her feelings. Be sure you really want to hear what she has to say before you use it. IFM which increases affection, calms comforts and gives a feeling of wellbeing. TUTH to increase arousal, Go really slow with this one. Ishine for a youth charismatic upbeat vibe. This could change after we has some more info about you though. If you need help just ask. **Your GC will go out shortly** 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![The\_King](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_king/32/2016_2.png) [@The\_King](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_King)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/4 "2008-12-08T23:02:19Z")
I would actually recommend a very light application of something like turn up the heat for that sexual attraction aspect…by light i mean not even a spray but maybe using the applicator tube to rub some on your neck or maybe use your finger. I have found using A314 applied on the neck in the same spot as TUTH was applied seems to work pretty well. Use maybe 2 drops on each side of neck. 314 seems to enhance the trust factor…which is very important before anything else can follow : ) Also as I sidebar, don’t expect a miracle in a bottle b/c that ain’t gonna happen. Don’t be discouraged if things don’t go your way at first. Try this “recipe” for several consecutive days and note what happens. I found this worked with my woman as she was displaying similar behavior. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/5 "2008-12-08T23:26:52Z")
welcome Mr T Dub. Depending on your intentions, my suggestions would be- Keep your wife- IH to help get through some of the wall your wife has put up. because you are good at starting conversations, this will help deepen and make them more meaningful. IFM to help relax and put her at ease around you. TUTH to increase arousal in her, but that only works if there is something to increase, (hence the IH) IG for a smoother more youthful feeling. Instant shine, for the happy charismatic vibe, people like being around happy people. to packup move on- I would swap the TUTH for [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), as it is more buffered and works better on a daily basis. (either way IFM and IH would be a good place to start, as you have kids involved, some simbolance of a relationsheip is best with your wife) ---
**Author:** ![Mr.TDub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mr.TDub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.TDub)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/6 "2008-12-08T23:47:00Z")
Well, I guess my personality would be described as honest to a fault, successful, sarcastic, funny everday of the week kind of guy! I love talking to girls and grew up with Catholic school girls all around me. I met my wife in high school in 1987 and was in love the moment I saw her! She was always a stay at home mom and I ran the business. We always had lunch every Wednesday and did family oriented stuff on Sunday. I love her deeply and can’t ever really imagine not being with her. I have been with plenty of women in my life and always understood the difference between sex and love, and I love her more now than I ever did. I think I just showed her to much of my bad womanizing behaviors over the years and thought that taking care of her and the kids very well was sort of a justification of “catching and releasing” women over the years. I did cheat on her twice and I am sorry for that, but that was over 7 years ago. I know she still loves me at some level or she would not let me be near her and hold hands during walks or lay next to her on our bed. I am giving her all the space she needs and as much money as I can possibly give her. I need her back, not right now, but someday. I need something that will just give me the extra boost I need to make her want me more when I see her. I know it’s only been three weeks since she has been staying at friends houses, but I want to start laying the foundations of a new and better relationship for us in the future. I will always care for her and our kids regardless if we are together ever again, but my version of the future is har and I back together and deeply in love forever!!! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2008, 11:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/7 "2008-12-08T23:57:18Z")
Now, i’m not the resident expert here by any means, but i have seen my own parents split up, start dating other people, and even my dad and step-mom split up as well… and then my dad marry again. I’ve seen what it takes and what doesnt work, i like to think, and have tried to use these ideas in my own life/relationships. I would suggest 3 products for you… well, maybe 4, but start off with three. Those three would be [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Honesty, and Instant Gentleman. Instant Female Magic would help your wife feel more comfortable around you, feel relaxed and at ease, as well as help increase the affection a bit. Instant Honesty would help her feel a deeper connection to you, allowing her to speak a little more about what’s bothering her, from which point it can go to “how do we fix this?” Finally, Instant Gentleman projects a feel of masculine warmth, of being safe and comforting, or a male provider, if you will. All of these would help her relax and patch up things with you, which is where you need to begin anyways. After that has started, THEN i might suggest a bit of Turn Up The Heat… not too much, as Tisha said, just enough to give off a bit of sexual vibe, to let her know that you want HER and are still interested in her. If you use TUTH too fast, she might just think you’re trying to get her to sleep with you again, and not that you’re trying to make a stronger relationship between you two. As Tisha reminded you, pheromones wont do all the work, and there will probably be some hard work ahead, but they CAN give you that little extra boost… get your foot in the door, if you will. Then it’s up to you. Wish ya the best! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 6:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/8 "2008-12-09T06:16:02Z")
Thanks for providing more information, its does help. I am slightly changing my picks. Hm I am thinking skip the TUTH for now, get that later after things are on a more comfortable level again. Get AMMO for a mild arousal and interest. I would not go with IG right now either, You have always been the “go to” man for her and she wants to spread her wings, The last vibe she needs is more of the " go to " man vibe. This is why I think AMMO would be better to rekindle the spark and interest on a sexy attraction level. Ishine I highly recommend for a warm charismatic vibe. If she feels uplifted around you she will want to be around you more. IH for the deep connection and communication. Defiantly IFM for comfort ease and getting past resistance. A1 has been dubbed the love mone. It increases affection as wel as ease and comfort. If you have any questions or need help just let us know. I sent your GC already 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/9 "2008-12-09T14:54:32Z")
Wow! Great suggestions, Tisha! ---
**Author:** ![Mr.TDub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mr.TDub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.TDub)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/10 "2008-12-09T15:23:34Z")
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the help. I will be making an order today. Thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2008, 7:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/11 "2008-12-09T19:33:51Z")
> [@Mr.TDub](#): > > …I have never had trouble getting laid or talking to any girl I want, I guess that’s part of the reason she has been trying to leave. I mean my **best friend** is a 22 year old beauty. I often have a different girl bring me lunch everyday of the week, but I don’t have sex with any of them… Don’t you think it might be a good idea to lighten up with your “friends”? Seems to me that there might be a feeling of distrust or perhaps inadequacy involved and she is trying to escape those feelings. And shouldn’t your wife be your “best friend”? Not trying to “trash you”, just some 3rd party observations. Jim ---
**Author:** ![Mr.TDub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mr.TDub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.TDub)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/12 "2008-12-10T03:24:24Z")
I would have to agree. I do need to cut way back on the lady friends. I have slowly , over the years just plain gotten out of hand with it. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.TDub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@Mr.TDub](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.TDub)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/13 "2009-01-05T18:34:33Z")
O.K., so here is the follow up; I tried the products out and it did help a little the next time I saw my wife. That night she was “stand offish” and the next morning when I went downstairs to her room the Turn up the Heat seemed to give me that extra edge to be able to get somewhere in bed with her. The bad news is that she has since gotten an apt. and moved out. I guess if I want her to love me back I need alot of things to happen. As far as the products go I need more field testing to give an honest review of how they affect women I have never met, because like I had said before talking with women and all that stuff has never been a problem, well I guess it is a problem because that is the main reason my wife is leaving. Anyways, thanks! ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-california-with-love/23775/14 "2009-01-06T07:04:11Z")
A very sad story. I think you need to have a very deep talk with her and ask her if there is a chance for you two to reunite. If she says no then you need to respect that and wish her the best and tell her you are going to move on. Not right now maybe after like 1-3 months.