# From Russia with Pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 6, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255 "2008-05-06T20:49:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/1 "2008-05-06T20:49:19Z")
Ok, as per my MO, this will be a long post. My apologies, in advance… This story begins back in January. Instead of trying to remember all the details, I figure it would be best to quote a series of LS posts detailing the first few encounters, back when my memories were fresh… **1-31-08** > [@](#): > > Ok, there is a sexy russian girl in my english class I have had my eye on for the past few weeks…[whom I will hereafter refer to as “L”] > A couple days ago was the first time I interacted with her in depth (that is, more than sideways glances and “hello”). I was wearing about 12 or so inches of Scent of Eros, and it seemed to be pretty effective. Long story short, we spoke for about 15 minutes before class with lots of eye contact and smiles etc. > > Today I used about 16 inches of Scent of Eros and 2 sprays of Chikara. We were in the computer lab today and I sat next to her (I normally sit about 5 feet from her). I had similar results to the first day, just _far more_ exaggerated, almost to the point of an OD (from Scent of Eros, so it was good). > She was _extremely_ chatty, she simply would not stop talking to me, even while the teacher was lecturing and all but telling her to stfu. She also kept on wanting to show me what she was doing on her computer (despite being pretty inane and meaningless), it really _felt_ like a presentation of sorts. Also, I got the sense (though, I may be reading too much into this) that she didn’t want this other guy around who tried to hit on her a couple of times. **2-14-08** > [@](#): > > Good News! > > But first, today before English Class I applied 2 sprays of Chikara on my chest and _at least_ 15 inches of Scent of Eros on my neck. Anyway, here is the lead in… > > At the very beginning of class I got up to hole-punch some papers. While doing so, the Sexy Russian Girl walked up behind me and cheerfully expressed her surprise that I was not wearing a pink shirt (I frequently wear pink, but today it was purple). I don’t even remember what I said now, but essentially I acknowledged her comment. I would have been more responsive, but she caught me off guard and I was getting a migraine at the time. > > Class started and we sat down. For almost the whole period I was paying attention to her, trying not to stare. Unfortunately she did not once make eye contact or even look at me while I was watching her. Strangely enough she paid an awful lot of attention to a guy at her table, even made physical contact 2 or 3 times. At this point I was feeling quite discouraged, wondering if I should even try asking her out today… > > To _my_ surprise she once again made sure to leave the room at the same time as I did, despite ample opportunity to leave sooner (I was going slowly intentionally, to “test the waters”). We began talking about how tired we both were from staying up late the night before, writing essays. Right before leaving the building I asked her if she would like to go out for coffee some time. She said “sure,” in a sort of non-descript tone. She was not ecstatic at the prospect, but at the same time it was **not** like, “sure, I guess, if you insist.” So I gave her my business card and told her to call me. She laughed/giggled at my having business cards (I _think_ she was impressed). She read out loud, “Research Analyst” right underneath my name, to which I wittily responded “Yeah, I’ll tell you all about it over coffee, see ya.” Then we parted ways to go to our cars. The next day before class I approached her and asked for _her_ number, if you want something done right, do it yourself, no? I called her that afternoon (a tuesday) and made a date for that Friday evening at Starbucks. Before leaving my house I put on 15 inches of Scent of Eros (cut 50% with Beta Androstenol), one spray of Chikara and 5 sprays of Liquid Trust. She had gotten lost and was about 10 minutes late, and was visibly irritated. Within a few moments she seemed to calm down, but was still not _relaxed_, as she is pretty high-strung anyway. As the evening progressed she did seem to relax though, and began speaking quite openly. She told me a bunch of stories about her ex-boyfriend and his family. Including one about a fight she had with her ex-boyfriend’s mother, who apparently, is some sort of crazy drug addict. At one point she noticed that my pinky flips up as I drink espresso and started making fun of me, insinuating that I was gay. I played along and that joke ran for close to 5 minutes, she was clearly comfortable enough to laugh and joke with me. All in all, it was a good night and i was encouraged. She was not in class the next week so I called her to ask what was wrong and if she would like to get together over spring break (which was in 2 weeks). It turns out I woke her up from a nap when I called. After I asked if she would like to get together, she told me she was “sleeping that week.” What!? I responded that maybe we could do something another time and promptly said goodbye. Now, being aware that she was half asleep, I figured that may not have been the cop-out it sounded like. I opted to wait until class next week, when she was awake and speak to her then. As it turned out, she was absent all that week, as well as the week after spring break. When she finally returned to class, she completely ignored me. Confounded, I decided to chalk it up to experience and go find fairer waters. Now, fast forward to last Tuesday: As I walked into class she looked up at me and then quickly looked down at her phone and greeted me with an elongated, “Heeellooo.” Obviously I cannot adequately describe her tone of voice in writing, but it had a sort of “unsure-yet-intrigued” quality to it. At the time I thought nothing of it and simply responded, “hey.” It was not until later that afternoon that I reevaluated my dismissal of her reaction to my arrival. So, I said to myself, “What the hell? If she is still interested; then great; if not, then one day she will tell her children about the time she drank coffee with The Great, Lord FutureKill when he was still a young man 😛.” Thus did I decide to approach the fair [L] come (last) Thursday. Anyway, I reviewed my “phero-notes” from the past few months, and realized that just before the time when she began ignoring me I had stopped wearing chikara (in spite of advice from several LS regulars :o). I figured that I ought to try and recreate the mix I had on when I originally approached her, but with a few enhancements. The following is transcripted from my notes(which sadly are unusually lacking in detail, not my best work 😛): > [@](#): > > ~9:30 AM, I applied 2 sprays Instant Female Magic, 60mcg Alpha Androstenol, 60mcg Beta Androstenol, 1 spray Chikara, ~20 inches Scent of Eros and ~300mcg EST… > > [Note: Like an idiot, I went to the exam early and had an hour before class started] > > Later, ~10AM, I applied ~150mcg EST and ~9 inches Scent of Eros. ~11 AM (after class) applied ~150mcg EST. I then approached [L], she seemed much calmer than usual. I asked her to go to the [local nature hike] with me, long story short she said she would like to and told me to call her next week. Also, she seemed _much_ calmer than usual and not in a hurry as she used to be. It should be noted that I was much more persistant and “pushy” (nicel)y than in th past. While it isn’t much of a climax to our story, I just called L and made plans to meet tomorrow at the nature hike referred to above. In conclusion (finally 🙄), I am absolutely certain that the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and EST played a role in her being more relaxed. But, I _ **do not** _ think that the consistency issue (that is, wearing Chikara like before) was even an issue. Also, I am aware that my game has improved since February and that, surely, played a role. Tomorrow I am thinking I will wear a similar mix, but with Instant Gentleman and TAA in lieu of Scent of Eros and Chikara. Any Thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/2 "2008-05-06T21:21:20Z")
Everything looks good. You’re def. going in the right direction. You may very well be the next MadTater. ---
**Author:** ![sony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sony](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sony)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/3 "2008-05-06T22:17:57Z")
“F” the russian chicks. Don’t even approach them man. They only think about themselves and their “Green Cards”. Just F them seriously i don’t know how to explain my personal stories about them but they’re not trustworthy. It’s gonna sound stupid but Eukraine girls are much better than russian chicks. If you are one-night-stand type then go out to a club with her (which they love) and have her drink votka like there is no tomorrow. You can paint your bathroom wall with their make-up 😃 If you want a long-term relationship then i would go with eukraine. I don’t know how you’ll find them but good luck. ---
**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/4 "2008-05-07T12:34:44Z")
sony: I follow what you are saying, I can def. see how Russian women could be preoccupied with their green cards. But regardless of that, what do you think of my potential mix? I am especially interested in what you think of it specifically from the perspective of your experience with Russian chicks, given their tendencies. Also, what about your thoughts on Ukrainian (I assume that’s what you mean) chicks and how the aforementioned mix may or may not affect them? More info please 😛 ---
**Author:** ![sony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sony](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sony)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/5 "2008-05-07T22:41:13Z")
I will use scent of eros in a short time have no clue on them however i heard chikara and scent of eros are good i don’t know why you wanted to get rid of chikara but sometimes it’s good to change them you know. Lets get to Ukrainian (yes thats what i meant sorry my spelling) chicks. They are like i don’t know how to explain more into love and stuff. I talked to many russian and many ukrainian chicks and asked them this question; if you’re in love with a guy that you will never ever ever want to break up with, but he’s got no penny what would you do. Russians (90%) answered i don’t care how they look or how much i’m in love with i’ll look at the money and the card. Ukrainian chicks’ answers were more emotional. And i know 100% sure that you can sleep with a russian chicks soo easily but Ukrainian girls will take time like days or months cause they have to trust you and they know everybody are not like them. I’m like a freakin’ expert on russians and Ukrainians 😃 ask me if you have any questions, will be glad to answer. sony ---
**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2008, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/6 "2008-05-07T23:45:01Z")
I appreciate your willingness to assist.🙂 First, what sort of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), or patterns for that matter, would you suggest for use on Russian women? That is, aside from the obvious -none and sexually aggressive patterns. Second, aside from what you have already said, what do you believe distinguishes Russian women from other white women? I had a date with the Russian chick in question today, I am exhausted at the moment but I will post my field report later this evening or tomorrow. thanks again sony. ---
**Author:** ![sony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sony](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sony)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 12:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/7 "2008-05-08T12:02:26Z")
When i used ammo i’ve seen good results on russian chicks. This russian chick never ever kissed me before (just hugged) started kissing me everywhere after i used the ammo. Now, i’m not quite sure if i used instant openness but ammo should help. And one ukranian girl started touching my hair. I think ammo works on europeans maybe. What excatly meant by russian chicks were they’re selfish. They only think about themselves nobody else. for example i was going out with her everyday and one day i didn’t have time to give her ride and she stopped talking to me for a while and she was so cold everytime we talked. So if you have benefits they are yours and they are easy to get thats all i’m saying bro. ---
**Author:** ![FutureKill](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/futurekill/32/691_2.png) [@FutureKill](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/FutureKill)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-russia-with-pheromones/12255/8 "2008-05-08T19:05:16Z")
Okay, that last bit makes perfect sense. Thank you.