# From zero to A 3some 14 in 60 flat **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 11, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510 "2010-10-11T04:41:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/1 "2010-10-11T04:41:31Z")
Last night a former coworker threw a “reunion” party of sorts for all sorts of former employees from a now defunct company (to remain nameless). Of course I attended figuring this would be a good opportunity to test some mones. The mix was 2 Drops A314 3 Sprays of regular strength Ammo in FF21 scent 2 Sprays [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 2 Sprays P130 Showed up at about 5 and applied mones in vehicle before getting out and going to the house. Schmoozed with the former coworkers I recognized from my time with the company, all treated me like the guy at the HS reunion that went on to become the next Bill Gates…not that it’s a big accomplishment with this bunch. The company had a national rep for hiring the unhirable and most stayed that way. I hadn’t worked for this company since 96 and most of the people I saw dressed and acted the same way they did back then. 30 minutes in, one group comes in two girls and a guy. Girl #1 will be S, the other is irrelevant as the guy was her husband and neither are pertinent save for displaying dominance with them for attraction purposes. Second set arrives 5 minutes later with Girl #2 who shall be called E with a guy who later turned out to be her brother. Now S was an EXTREMELY cute/pretty latin girl about 36 but looked 10 years younger. A tad on what some men might call the heavy side but allllllll tits and ass so she was right up my alley…besides the tribal tatoo across her cleavage kinda turned me on. E was…well fuck I couldn’t really tell what she was but her hair was dyed a very bright fiery red and her boobs were even bigger than S’s but she had no ass…no idea if that’s relevant for reporting purposes but yeah. And she too had a tat across the boobs but this one was a aztec looking eagle. I open set with E and her brother and quickly merge sets with S and her companions. After S throws a couple of IOI’s I begin collecting some compliance from her and return some IOI’s and Kino. A couple of guys that scream AFC start trying to cockblock me. Throwing out stories about the girls I had slept with when I worked there. I avoid the issue and simultaneously scold them for bringing up other womens personal lives. Then change the subject to their interests and throw a couple of compliments their way. They ate it up and began approval seeking me and ignoring the girls. I keep at the compliance testing until I get to a point where I crack my neck( which made the girls wince) I apologized and stated that I must have slept wrong because I’ve had a crick in my neck all day. Upon which E begins giving me a neck and shoulder massage. I finish a beer and almost literally send S to fetch me another. While she goes to get my beer, I extract E to go off behind a shade tree and begin making out. S shows up and calls me an asshole. I act as if it’s no big deal, playfully call her a sheep in wolfs clothing and that in spite of the tattoo’s she’s really just too much of a conservative good girl for a guy like me. Which results in her shouldering E out of the way so she can start kissing me. Now E is calling me an asshole so I give her a kiss too. I suggest we leave the party and go to my place. E throws a knowing look and smirk and is definately up for it, but S seems reluctant. I look her dead in the eye and simply say “let’s go”. And I walk out. I drive home and seconds later E pulls up in her vehicle with S in the passenger seat (they did NOT know each other before tonight…one was fired before the other was hired). We go upstairs and I figure S is the most reluctant and yet also seems to be the one most attracted so I begin giving her attention first and then hand gesture E to come join in. The rest you’ll have to buy a copy of penthouse letters to read, but I woke up smiling…THANKS A314! ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/2 "2010-10-11T04:55:41Z")
a nice story… lol Three some? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/3 "2010-10-11T04:57:05Z")
no her friend was the married one ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 5:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/4 "2010-10-11T05:05:18Z")
We’re not worthy!!! lol. Don’t forget to thank [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) too. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/5 "2010-10-11T05:08:58Z")
Nice. Just, Nice. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/6 "2010-10-11T05:14:10Z")
> [@TheBoogieMan](#): > > We’re not worthy!!! lol. > > Don’t forget to thank P130 too. it did seem to create a lighter more relaxed vibe than the mix with just Shine alone. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/7 "2010-10-11T05:54:15Z")
will have to add p130 next time, lol ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 5:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/8 "2010-10-11T05:59:26Z")
It’s funny, I wasn’t impressed by it originally because to my perceptions it was an ok feel good mone similar to TAA or Anol but not exactly like either. But it seemed to have a very relaxed cool vibe when added to the A314/[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/Shine mix. Now under THOSE conditions I DID notice a difference. I suppose because I had used that exact mix as well as variations of it so often that I was pretty familiar with the vibe it would create but the P130 did make it noticeably different when combined. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/9 "2010-10-11T06:22:56Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > It’s funny, I wasn’t impressed by it originally because to my perceptions it was an ok feel good mone similar to TAA or Anol but not exactly like either. But it seemed to have a very relaxed cool vibe when added to the A314/Ammo/Shine mix. Now under THOSE conditions I DID notice a difference. I suppose because I had used that exact mix as well as variations of it so often that I was pretty familiar with the vibe it would create but the P130 did make it noticeably different when combined. I have all kinds of social mones now. I recently purchased p74 and p96. I haevn’t seen much from p74 yet at 20 mcg… it made my ammo more social… I am thinking it can go pretty well with TUTH though… ---
**Author:** ![Aghor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/aghor/32/1558_2.png) [@Aghor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Aghor)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/10 "2010-10-11T09:16:55Z")
Just one comment … WOW thats impressive ! ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 12:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/11 "2010-10-11T12:23:17Z")
Well played sir. You looked right into S. Sounds like she needed more dominance. Great job using E as your wingman. Nothing like competition to get chicks going crazy. Wonderful. I have to say that you probably need to thank [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) also. I am noticing that it has some P83 type tendencies and kind of greases the skids for things to happen that might not otherwise. Curious about the way that you handled the AFC’s with the compliments. They kind of gave you some DHV with the stories, but yea that would have annoyed me a bit. You handled it well. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/12 "2010-10-11T13:02:09Z")
Well for example, one is an artist type, so I asked if he was still following that. He said he was and described how his current job fits in with his artistic pursuits. So I gave him a compliment on some of the work he had done when I still knew him and then asked for his information suggesting I might have some work for him in the future and would also help throw his name around to other people that might be interested. I suppose in a way it plays as sort of a “power broker” man of influence type of vibe. But people like approval and compliments, they’ll get hungry for more thinking that it raises their status when in fact pursuing approval lowers their perceived status. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 2:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/13 "2010-10-11T14:30:49Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > I suppose in a way it plays as sort of a “power broker” man of influence type of vibe. But people like approval and compliments, they’ll get hungry for more thinking that it raises their status when in fact pursuing approval lowers their perceived status. How did he continue Pursuing APProval? ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/14 "2010-10-11T16:08:25Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > Well played sir. You looked right into S. Sounds like she needed more dominance. Great job using E as your wingman. Nothing like competition to get chicks going crazy. Wonderful. I have to say that you probably need to thank P130 also. I am noticing that it has some P83 type tendencies and kind of greases the skids for things to happen that might not otherwise. > > Curious about the way that you handled the AFC’s with the compliments. They kind of gave you some DHV with the stories, but yea that would have annoyed me a bit. You handled it well. I’ve noticed the same thing. It works well as an addition to sexual mixes in my experience. P.S. The thread title had me scratching my head when I first read it last night but now I ‘get’ it haha. Clever. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/15 "2010-10-11T18:35:35Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Last night a former coworker threw a “reunion” party of sorts for all sorts of former employees from a now defunct company (to remain nameless). Of course I attended figuring this would be a good opportunity to test some mones. > The mix was > 2 Drops A314 > 3 Sprays of regular strength Ammo in FF21 scent > 2 Sprays Instant Shine > 2 Sprays P130 > > Showed up at about 5 and applied mones in vehicle before getting out and going to the house. > Schmoozed with the former coworkers I recognized from my time with the company, all treated me like the guy at the HS reunion that went on to become the next Bill Gates…not that it’s a big accomplishment with this bunch. The company had a national rep for hiring the unhirable and most stayed that way. I hadn’t worked for this company since 96 and most of the people I saw dressed and acted the same way they did back then. > 30 minutes in, one group comes in two girls and a guy. Girl #1 will be S, the other is irrelevant as the guy was her husband and neither are pertinent save for displaying dominance with them for attraction purposes. > Second set arrives 5 minutes later with Girl #2 who shall be called E with a guy who later turned out to be her brother. > Now S was an EXTREMELY cute/pretty latin girl about 36 but looked 10 years younger. A tad on what some men might call the heavy side but allllllll tits and ass so she was right up my alley…besides the tribal tatoo across her cleavage kinda turned me on. > E was…well fuck I couldn’t really tell what she was but her hair was dyed a very bright fiery red and her boobs were even bigger than S’s but she had no ass…no idea if that’s relevant for reporting purposes but yeah. And she too had a tat across the boobs but this one was a aztec looking eagle. > > I open set with E and her brother and quickly merge sets with S and her companions. After S throws a couple of IOI’s I begin collecting some compliance from her and return some IOI’s and Kino. > A couple of guys that scream AFC start trying to cockblock me. Throwing out stories about the girls I had slept with when I worked there. I avoid the issue and simultaneously scold them for bringing up other womens personal lives. Then change the subject to their interests and throw a couple of compliments their way. They ate it up and began approval seeking me and ignoring the girls. > I keep at the compliance testing until I get to a point where I crack my neck( which made the girls wince) I apologized and stated that I must have slept wrong because I’ve had a crick in my neck all day. Upon which E begins giving me a neck and shoulder massage. I finish a beer and almost literally send S to fetch me another. > While she goes to get my beer, I extract E to go off behind a shade tree and begin making out. S shows up and calls me an asshole. I act as if it’s no big deal, playfully call her a sheep in wolfs clothing and that in spite of the tattoo’s she’s really just too much of a conservative good girl for a guy like me. Which results in her shouldering E out of the way so she can start kissing me. Now E is calling me an asshole so I give her a kiss too. > I suggest we leave the party and go to my place. > E throws a knowing look and smirk and is definately up for it, but S seems reluctant. I look her dead in the eye and simply say “let’s go”. And I walk out. I drive home and seconds later E pulls up in her vehicle with S in the passenger seat (they did NOT know each other before tonight…one was fired before the other was hired). > We go upstairs and I figure S is the most reluctant and yet also seems to be the one most attracted so I begin giving her attention first and then hand gesture E to come join in. > > The rest you’ll have to buy a copy of penthouse letters to read, but I woke up smiling…THANKS A314! [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) is impressive, but heads up - it is also rare and there is not a large supply. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/16 "2010-10-11T18:40:46Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > P130 is impressive, but heads up - it is also rare and there is not a large supply. John this is some powerful stuff right there. I can see this being a base for confidence mixes. Things like AMMO and the Androstenol based mixes would shine if you had some of this added on. ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/17 "2010-10-11T18:51:09Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > P130 is impressive, but heads up - it is also rare and there is not a large supply. Thanks for the heads up. I only have about 1/3 of a bottle left and I have an idea for a mix so I’m gonna save the rest until I get the necessary supplies in my next order. 🆒 I still have a handful of reports to make on it though…if only I could get a day off from work to catch up my journal…☹ ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 12:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/18 "2010-10-12T00:39:37Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > P130 is impressive, but heads up - it is also rare and there is not a large supply. Oh now you tell me. So will you be able to sell it or no? ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/19 "2010-10-12T02:46:22Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > Well played sir. You looked right into S. Sounds like she needed more dominance. Great job using E as your wingman. Nothing like competition to get chicks going crazy. Wonderful. I have to say that you probably need to thank P130 also. I am noticing that it has some P83 type tendencies and kind of greases the skids for things to happen that might not otherwise. > > Curious about the way that you handled the AFC’s with the compliments. They kind of gave you some DHV with the stories, but yea that would have annoyed me a bit. You handled it well. Well I have yet to try P83, is that the one that’s alleged to have an instant airbrush sort of effect or am I thinking of P86? I have to confess I wasn’t very impressed with P130 as a standalone. I guess alone it reminded too much of Instant Shine and a little of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) that I was missing other more subtle differences that it has. I just chalked it up to a decent mood elevator. But mixing it with a mix that for me is a solid tried and true combo with effects I can anticipate and expect…THEN I notice the difference. The mood elevation was still there, but it seemed more relaxed and laid back. Very …“cool”. E was easy enough to pull and I gather is naturally kinky or bicurious. If anything was affecting her it was probably the Shine and Ammo. But S seemed more reluctant and more possessive/jealous so I suspect the A314 was what was really getting to her. She also seemed to be more conservative in spite of having some pretty wild tattoo’s. She was more nervous and reluctant I think maybe the combination of dominance from A314 coupled with a very relaxed, feel good, calm sort of vibe from the 130 is what helped ease her into it. > [@CoolKatDC](#): > > How did he continue Pursuing APProval? Well he’s like an artsy type, and that was what he did when we worked together. So I ask if he was still doing his art and made a comment about how I always envied him for his talent and complimented him on some of the stuff he did that I remembered from back in the day. That led to me leaning back on a patio bench while he proceeded to spill his guts about every project he’d done over the years including a couple that he started but hadn’t finished etc. He was leaning in and talking with his hands a lot. I would smile give a nod of approval and say something along the lines of “That’s awesome man, I know sometimes it’s tough but you just gotta stay focused. You have a gift and you need to cultivate it and find a career and lifestyle that fits with it. Being an artist isn’t something you do, it’s who and what you are” He makes a face like Keanu Reeves in Bill and Ted and is like “Woaaaaah…you really understand man. Thanks man you don’t know what it means to talk to somebody that really gets it yanno.” Then he starts going on about how hard it is to find the time to do his art when work eats up so much time etc and literally everything he said was an opening for me to throw a compliment or encouragement his way. Enough so that he forgot about the girls he was trying to snatch from me and was totally focused on me. Oh and he whipped out his phone and showed me pics of a few pieces he had done recently. Which of course was another opprotunity to compliment him. > [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > P130 is impressive, but heads up - it is also rare and there is not a large supply. Yeah but is it something that might be a regular putative in the future should the feedback be positive enough to warrant it? ---
**Author:** ![strooth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/strooth/32/877_2.png) [@strooth](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/strooth)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/from-zero-to-a-3some-14-in-60-flat/42510/20 "2010-10-12T04:27:13Z")
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