# frustration **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Journals\ **Created:** [August 2, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578 "2011-08-02T05:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![marianinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@marianinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marianinja)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/1 "2011-08-02T05:07:50Z")
grrr Frustrated because I may not be able to use these [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) I just bought any time soon… The guy i want to use them on is unexpectedly leaving for a seasonal job in NY. He plans to keep in touch but i can’t seduce him with these pheromones over the phone ☹. I have the worse luck ever… I’m really upset about this. I love this guy and I’m not sure he even realizes it. He use to want to be with me many years back, but I was blind and naive back then. I brushed off all his affection and he eventually stopped trying. But we’ve remained good friends…We talk to each other on the phone everyday. I just recently realized how great of a guy he is and how important he is to me. I talk to him more then anyone else in my life. I can honestly say I’ve fallen for him, but I’m afraid He is no longer romantically interested in me. I’m afraid I maybe to late. I pushed him so far away. He seeks other girls now and feels comfortable telling me about them. Before It didn’t faze me at all. Before I would actually encourage him to seek other girls and blab about them.. But now that I’ve grown feeling for him, I just can’t stand to hear about them. IDK If I suck at seduction but I’ve tried to seduce him a few times here and there, but he’s actually pushed me away ☹ He thinks i am toying with him or something…that or he’s being vengeful…IDK what it is. maybe he doesn’t trust that i actually grown feelings for him?..or He’s just flat out not attracted to me anymore. That’s so hard to swallow. I really wish I could get him to be affectionate again. I feel we connect really well mentally, yet I also want to be able to turn him on (without rejection). egh…I feel like such a fool sometimes. I hate caring. He’s gonna be in NY for 2 months…😕 I finally bought some pheromones and copulins to try but now I got to wait **2 months** to use them. This really stinks. What should I do with this guy? ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/2 "2011-08-02T07:06:30Z")
> [@marianinja](#): > > grrr Frustrated because I may not be able to use these pheromones I just bought any time soon… > > The guy i want to use them on is unexpectedly leaving for a seasonal job in NY. He plans to keep in touch but i can’t seduce him with these pheromones over the phone ☹. I have the worse luck ever… > > I’m really upset about this. I love this guy and I’m not sure he even realizes it. He use to want to be with me many years back, but I was blind and naive back then. I brushed off all his affection and he eventually stopped trying. But we’ve remained good friends…We talk to each other on the phone everyday. > > I just recently realized how great of a guy he is and how important he is to me. I talk to him more then anyone else in my life. I can honestly say I’ve fallen for him, but I’m afraid He is no longer romantically interested in me. I’m afraid I maybe to late. I pushed him so far away. He seeks other girls now and feels comfortable telling me about them. Before It didn’t faze me at all. Before I would actually encourage him to seek other girls and blab about them.. But now that I’ve grown feeling for him, I just can’t stand to hear about them. > > IDK If I suck at seduction but I’ve tried to seduce him a few times here and there, but he’s actually pushed me away ☹ He thinks i am toying with him or something…that or he’s being vengeful…IDK what it is. maybe he doesn’t trust that i actually grown feelings for him?..or He’s just flat out not attracted to me anymore. That’s so hard to swallow. I really wish I could get him to be affectionate again. I feel we connect really well mentally, yet I also want to be able to turn him on (without rejection). > > egh…I feel like such a fool sometimes. I hate caring. > > He’s gonna be in NY for 2 months…😕 I finally bought some pheromones and copulins to try but now I got to wait **2 months** to use them. This really stinks. > > What should I do with this guy? Bear in mind that I would rather face down a snake than do this, but: Maybe it’s time to bite the bullet and just say it out loud. Maybe he’s been so thoroughly conditioned, that you have to come out and say the words in basic, no chance of being confused monosyllabic words. I dunno, what I do suggest in the mean time, is to post this in the lounge and ask the guys for advice. P51Mustang, mobocaster, theGentleman, RADMAN513 are all guys that I find helpful and CLEAR. Does that sound like something you’d be ok with? ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 8:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/3 "2011-08-02T08:38:13Z")
That time is a good time to really learn your pheros, so that by the time he gets back, your weapons will be sharp and you’ll know just what to do! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/4 "2011-08-02T10:05:24Z")
I agree with Astera. Its time to bite the bullet and just tell him the truth. I know it may be scary and your risking rejection but if you dont say something you risk losing him to someone else before either of you get a chance to truly explore whether something is there between you besides friendship. I would not wait till he gets back from NY. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2011, 10:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/5 "2011-08-02T10:36:01Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I agree with Astera. Its time to bite the bullet and just tell him the truth. I know it may be scary and your risking rejection but if you dont say something you risk losing him to someone else before either of you get a chance to truly explore whether something is there between you besides friendship. **I would not wait till he gets back from NY.** > > Tisha As I said, I personally couldn’t do it - but I also don’t think I would have let it get this far, either. At least, I hope not. But I do agree with Tisha 100% - don’t wait that long! Every day puts more emotional distance between you - you can’t afford the geographical distance. ---
**Author:** ![marianinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@marianinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marianinja)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/6 "2011-08-05T18:18:46Z")
Thanks everyone. I haven’t got the courage to tell him how i really feel yet…I think I’m just waiting for the right moment…idk im a chicken. I’ll try to find some courage sometime soon…(eek). I guess i could try re-posting this in the lounge and see what the guys have to say. and I got my IS-A with cops today Yay ^\_^…I’m anxious to try it out…so I’m probably going to test it out for when i go out to the club tonight…just a little bit. Like what sillykitty said "by the time my crush gets back, my weapons will be sharp and i’ll know just what to do! " ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/7 "2011-08-05T20:54:51Z")
> [@marianinja](#): > > Thanks everyone. > I haven’t got the courage to tell him how i really feel yet…I think I’m just waiting for the right moment…idk im a chicken. I’ll try to find some courage sometime soon…(eek). > > I guess i could try re-posting this in the lounge and see what the guys have to say. > > and I got my IS-A with cops today Yay ^\_^…I’m anxious to try it out…so I’m probably going to test it out for when i go out to the club tonight…just a little bit. > > Like what sillykitty said > **"by the time my crush gets back, my weapons will be sharp and i’ll know just what to do! "** It’s just as likely that by the time he gets back; there will be enough distance between the 2 of you that he’s mentally moved on. You need to at least leave a suggestion in his mind - "Oh, I’m gonna miss you. Can’t wait for you to get back and we can . . . . " If you really feel differently about this guy - and guys are dumb! - you’re ‘hint’ may be overlooked as a hint. I feel that if you leave it as is, with him trained as your friend; you’re going to lose the opportunity. How chicken are you? Are you willing to let him go and deal with the possibility that when he comes back he’s moved on or worse, found someone else? I know it’s scary - but nobody’s more chicken than me; and I’m telling you to let him know - in a **not too subtle** way, that there’s something for him to come back to. Maybe plan a visit to him - and then drop a **BIG** hint. Like wearing a bunch of cops and going for or staying in for ‘a couple of drinks and a dvd’. Visit and seduce. That way you get to leave, he can process while you’re gone and you have the advantage of distance; so you don’t have to do the ‘facing him in the street thing’ while he takes in the new information. I also think posting in the lounge with a title that asks for the guys help / input is a great idea. Move quick, tho’; and get a plan made. ---
**Author:** ![marianinja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@marianinja](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marianinja)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/8 "2011-08-10T04:25:16Z")
found the courage to bluntly tell the guy i like how i feel the other day, And He said he still does have feeling for me. but now hes acting weird… It seems like i made him feel a little awkward or something. He’s been really quiet on the phone and our conversations have been cut down to 5 minutes. :/…idk hopefully this awkwardness passes soon. I’m just gonna try to not let it bother me too much. ---
**Author:** ![Astrea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/astrea/32/1928_2.png) [@Astrea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Astrea)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/9 "2011-08-10T04:36:18Z")
> [@marianinja](#): > > found the courage to bluntly tell the guy i like how i feel the other day, And He said he still does have feeling for me. but now hes acting weird… It seems like i made him feel a little awkward or something. He’s been really quiet on the phone and our conversations have been cut down to 5 minutes. :/…idk hopefully this awkwardness passes soon. > > I’m just gonna try to not let it bother me too much. Another congratulations! At least now it’s said; anything else is on him. Let him sort out the awkward and ignore it until he brings it up. You did what you had to do; now he gets to think on it and reorder his thoughts about the situation. 😉😛😃 ---
**Author:** ![happycarol](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happycarol/32/788_2.png) [@happycarol](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happycarol)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/frustration/51578/10 "2011-08-10T18:30:53Z")
I agree with Astrea, it seems natural that he will need to think and would pull back a bit to put some thought into it all. Congratulations for telling him, well done! I think it was a very smart move and brave too! You did your part, now he will have some time to think about it all.