# Gay combo to bring your partner back in love? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [August 14, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279 "2016-08-14T15:44:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2016, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/1 "2016-08-14T15:44:18Z")
What is the best mix combo for gay guys I’m facing a big issue with my boyfriend. I’m white gay passive 36 yo but he is Bi-sexual black dominant 35 active. We are in a stage where he does not want to even talk to me. We got in argue where he is very disappointed and lost his trust and sexual attention in me. He just lost totally interest in me. What is the best combo mix to take all his anger and that distance away, get back his trust and strong sexual attention, make him feel good, open and comfortable with me with that warmness and love feeling with joyful and happiness. Something that will pull him like a magnet back to me. He is normally under a lot of stress on the daily basics so also something that will make him feel relief in a way. I’m going to see him once more and this is the actually only time that I can use to make him feel. Should I mix with Mystery boy with something or something different? I’m so desperate because he mean a lot to me ☹ Please help me ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/2 "2016-08-15T00:10:42Z")
Hi simba and thanks for starting a journal. I can at least get you in the right direction. I would check out HankBuddy’s and Zedster’s journal maybe even send them a PM as they are both very friendly and should help you out. I have tested a wide range of [pheromones](https://a314.com/) and even tested the women’s ones to like IS/A and IS/B around my gay male friends. For the stress part definitely IS will be one of the ones to look at. Some IH might also help with the bonding to and bring everything out in the relationship so you know everything that he feels and know what to at least work on. Sounds like you already know though. I hope Hank or Zedster comes in here. From what I have learned is that gay men are attracted to a man’s signature, so what works on women should work on men to. For now I would not use TUTH and I would think MB or Ammo should be good here. I have found that for my gay friends (I give them stuff to test for me from time to time) A314, IG, and Ammo seem to work and get them aroused which is about inline with what I see in Hank’s journal so I would think these would be good to use. Good Luck and keep us updated!!! ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/3 "2016-08-15T01:20:16Z")
Ok thank you but can you please send me the right links. everyone is sending me there but no one shows where egzactly to look for it. Im new to all this so I will appreciate to get a links. Thank you for the advise. I really appreciate. IS/A or IS/B you mean [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or Trust and respect? ANd for the stress IS you mean Instant Shine? ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/4 "2016-08-15T01:21:56Z")
Sure buddy no problem. This is Hank`s [An Older Gay Male Perspective](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-older-gay-male-perspective/64949) This is Zedster`s [A gay, transgender guy and his pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/a-gay-transgender-guy-and-his-pheromones/65455) ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/5 "2016-08-15T02:43:21Z")
IS/A or IS/B you mean [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) or Trust and respect? ANd for the stress IS you mean Instant Shine ? Also is the Ammunition going to work well on my boyfriend or it work well just on ladies? From the review I see most of the man is using to attract ladies. I need something really strongly to make him feel it, will that work on him as well? So I should use all of them together: or will that be too much? and how should I use them, with what dosage and strength? IS IH A314 A or B? IG and Ammo Someone also suggested to me to use P96. But what combination will be the best in this case? Can I use all of them together or will that be way too much? ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/6 "2016-08-15T20:52:41Z")
I appreciate you reaching out to me, Simba. You sent me a private message and posted on my journal. I decided to respond to you here so that others can benefit and/or interject their thoughts. You’re not going to like what I have to say. I understand the feelings of desperation when a relationship falls apart. I also understand that there is life after a failed relationship. I’ve had several failed relationships, and each time I moved on. Based on what you’ve shared, there are too many red flags that let me know the relationship is over. No amount of pheromones will win him back, no amount of coaxing, no amount of tears, no amount of pleading. So I prefer not to focus on those things. Instead, I prefer to focus on helping you move forward. You mentioned that you have only one more meeting with this guy. Avoid focusing on trying to win him back. Only two things will win him back - time and a new you. These things are not yet available to you, so it’s best to focus on dealing with what is within your control. First, take responsibility of your actions that have brought you to this situation. Accept whatever it was that you did or said that caused him to lose trust and sexual attraction. I once lost a guy from being overly possessive and dependent on him. For him, that was terribly unattractive, and he wanted out. Sometimes we unknowingly behave in ways that is unattractive to our partners. Take ownership of your part in this situation. I’m sure he has actions that also contributed to this situation, but for you to move forward, you need to at least take ownership of your contributions. To help you with this, wear IH and IG daily for a week or so. Use them for the self-effects. It will help you develop clarity and self-confidence. I also recommend wearing these two when you meet with your friend. These mones will help keep things calm and civil, while reducing outbursts. I strongly recommend avoiding TUTH, AMMO, and A314. These products contain androstenone, which is too sexual and too alpha for this sort of situation. They will not induce any of the warmness, openness, and joy that you intend. I also recommend avoiding P96. In this situation, there is a risk of it portraying you as emotionally needy. Your next meeting with him is the time to display self-confidence and independence. This is the time when you say, “Yeah, I fucked up royally. I understand you might not want to be around me anymore. I’ll miss you and the love we shared. But, I know you’re not feeling that right now. I hope we can remain friends.” After that, give him space, and give yourself the much needed space to develop inner peace, self-confidence, and a greater sense of independence. Pheromones can help you with this process, but you will need to do the vast majority of the inner work yourself. Best of luck to you! ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/7 "2016-08-15T22:36:11Z")
thank you HankBuddy for your help. I do really appreciate every word. I think I will follow your mind and do as you advised me and see. I was only about to ask if should I also use IS to bring at least good mood around. What do you think? Luckly he is a kind of person that forget and move on really quickly as soon as he got out of his chest he is ready to continue life like nothing happen. Unlikely I’m always the one that he blame even is not my fault or if he is the trigger one. But I love him so much and just feel really sad. Lets see. I seriously appreciate your help And now lets forget all about that issue. I wanted to ask how pheromones work on us gay and bi guys. I mean the sexual one. Will the AMMO, TUTH and all the rest of them arouse sexually or is there specific one that I need to look at like [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/)? What about the Ladies one like Instant Sexines will they also work on gay guys? there are different types of guys those active more dominant and passive so are there also specific things i have to consider or all the sexual pheromones work the same on everyone? also I wanted to ask which one is the strongest one? ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/8 "2016-08-15T23:38:35Z")
I can only go on based on what you choose to share. I still stand by my recommendations - IH and IG. This is not a time to try to be enticing, seductive, or the “life of the party.” This is a time to take responsibility for each of your contributions to this situations. It is also a time for you to express more independence. If he sees you willing to let this go, he may reconsider his actions. I know you love him. You also expressed that he tends to blame you for things that might not be your fault, and he tends to get over things as if nothing happened. For me, those are red flags, too. The relationship has too many elements of co-dependence and it does strike me as unhealthy. IH and IG will help you gain clarity and self-confidence to see what is truly working for you and what isn’t in that relationship. Others might have a different perspective on this issue. Hopefully they can offer something to help you get through this difficult time. ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/9 "2016-08-15T23:43:50Z")
I didn’t mean to use them with my bf. I was only asking in general. The case with my bf I will follow egzactly as you advised me. I like the idea. The questions I have about sexual pheromons I just wanted to know for myself because I’m new to this and i’m just curious how it works and maybe try them but with different people if you know what I mean 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/10 "2016-08-17T16:37:57Z")
I really like the idea and thank you so much for a very mature advise it makes me understand things from different perspective. I know you see everything as unhealthy. Maybe probably even is. He is just very difficult to deal with and very stobborn with his decision but once you break it he is willing to cooporate, you just need to find the right way and bit of time because time heals. plus he spontaneous and terms to over react sometimes and judge things bit too quick without taking a second and think, but after a bit of time he is cool. I will definitely use the two you advised IH and IG also I wanted to ask if I could add slightly a little bit like one spray of A314 so that he can feel beet deeper trust in me (he don’t have any big reason really to not trust me but thats how he is sometimes and its very difficult to get into him - he is very stubborn naturally if you know what i mean, but once you break it then he is willing to cooporate) because first he is coming to see me so we will be together for a little while, so there will be some chance to talk. Before I was asking if I should also add IS into that combination because its all based on his mood mostly. He is very moody and if he is in a happy mood his decisions and all conversation is more positive and have better understanding with better outcome. or just IH and IG is just way enough to keep him in a good and cool mood and trust me enough to open up and talk with me? Then after that we are going to see my mum because that is going to be his main purpose to come. So I though if I shouldn’t use IS earlier then maybe here IS could be a good option to bring that good mood because he always based on what his mood is like. If he feel happy then his decisions are more positive and is just way easier to deal with him. Also it will be better as we will be with my mum. What do you think about that? I know A314 have some little sexual impact but its also for trust and respect but maybe if used a little bit with IH and IG will add a little better matter. Or it will just make it worse? And what do you think of idea with IS? Please help me to understand ---
**Author:** ![HankBuddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/f04885/32.png) [@HankBuddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HankBuddy)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/11 "2016-08-17T17:37:57Z")
I read Dee’s response to you in the intro section. That too is pretty sound advice. At this point, I’m sensing a slight desperation on your part for a magic bullet. There isn’t any. Selecting pheromones for a particular situation is an art, not a science. I can’t fully predict how people will respond. But, based on my past experience in using pheromones, I can at least reasonably expect a positive outcome and avoid negative ones. You’re also new to using pheromones. You haven’t yet discovered how people will react to you when using them. You also haven’t yet found your sweet spot (the right dosage that will provide positive responses rather than negative responses). So, using pheromones with your boyfriend is all an experiment. My recommendations are based on what I regard as safe while helping you move on. You still seem intent on trying to woo him back. I don’t think that is a wise idea, but ultimately the choice is yours. You know him and the situation much better than I do. Wearing IShine or A314 is not something I would do if I were in your situation, but I’m not. Based on my experience in interactions with previous romantic partners, trying to woo the other person back when they have expressed serious dissatisfaction is not entirely appropriate. It often backfires and the person doing the wooing comes across as emotionally needy and desperate. Very unattractive. However, you know how to deal with your boyfriend better than I do. Seriously, I see so many red flags here. I think it’s time to move on. Dee provided some great advice on mones you can use to help you do that. ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/12 "2016-08-17T18:05:54Z")
I think you are right. well I will stick to the plan and take advice from both of you guys. I think I’m just so connected to him so I don’t see other way of life but maybe this is the moment of the true of all this situation. Thank you for help. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/13 "2016-08-18T14:27:45Z")
I second everything HankBuddy already said. I hesitated to respond to your multiple requests because I saw a lot going wrong with the situation; I believe if someone has underlying issues, pheromones aren’t going to fix it. Pheromones are an enhancer, they aren’t magic. I hope you take some time to reflect on the advice you’ve been given. Good luck to you. ---
**Author:** ![zedster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zedster/32/1715_2.png) [@zedster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zedster)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/14 "2016-08-18T14:29:35Z")
> [@simba17](#): > > I think you are right. well I will stick to the plan and take advice from both of you guys. I **think I’m just so connected to him so I don’t see other way of life** but maybe this is the moment of the true of all this situation. > Thank you for help. I think that’s a sign you should move on. Focus on and develop your own self. You weren’t born with your bf by your side?you can certainly live without him. The question is, _will_ you? ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 2:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/15 "2016-08-18T14:42:09Z")
Hi Zedster. Thank you for your second opinion. I have already consider some changes. Just true a reading your both guys opinions and advises it already helped me to move on is some ways. Being with all that by yoursefl you are always in the middle of the road and just waiting for a bus to kill you if you know what I mean. Its very hard because we know each other more then 10 years and always been together. I get very connected to someone like that and when you loos it it’s like you are loosing part of you if you know what I mean, It was also a first guy i ever had a sex with a men that’s something that drills even deeper hole in your heart. All I will try to be at least his friend because I don’t think again that I would want more then that after what I have to go true. I have always care about him as like for anyone else in my life so I guess I will never treat anyone this nice again because that’s how bad it feels in the end. I will use mones only to support me a bit because I hate to be in a bad condition with anyone especially with someone that at leaset meant so much to me and just to see what happen but I don’t see myslf in this relationship anymore and I don’t even want to. Knowing someone for so long and to behave just like he did it’s just from bit lover level. I’m not trying to look like I’m someone better but, I think at some point i deserve bit better then that. I’m also considering to do some changes at my professional side because I feel like this step will help me to move one to completely different direction.. I think I already feel a bit of different of inner space that Hunkybuddy mention. I kind of like that statement. ---
**Author:** ![simba17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@simba17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simba17)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2016, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gay-combo-to-bring-your-partner-back-in-love/66279/16 "2016-08-18T15:13:19Z")
> [@HankBuddy](#): > > I read Dee’s response to you in the intro section. That too is pretty sound advice. > > At this point, I’m sensing a slight desperation on your part for a magic bullet. There isn’t any. Selecting pheromones for a particular situation is an art, not a science. I can’t fully predict how people will respond. But, based on my past experience in using pheromones, I can at least reasonably expect a positive outcome and avoid negative ones. > > You’re also new to using pheromones. You haven’t yet discovered how people will react to you when using them. You also haven’t yet found your sweet spot (the right dosage that will provide positive responses rather than negative responses). > > So, using pheromones with your boyfriend is all an experiment. My recommendations are based on what I regard as safe while helping you move on. You still seem intent on trying to woo him back. I don’t think that is a wise idea, but ultimately the choice is yours. You know him and the situation much better than I do. Wearing IShine or A314 is not something I would do if I were in your situation, but I’m not. Based on my experience in interactions with previous romantic partners, trying to woo the other person back when they have expressed serious dissatisfaction is not entirely appropriate. It often backfires and the person doing the wooing comes across as emotionally needy and desperate. Very unattractive. However, you know how to deal with your boyfriend better than I do. > > Seriously, I see so many red flags here. I think it’s time to move on. Dee provided some great advice on mones you can use to help you do that. After our conversations here I feel like my senses came down a bit and did let me see things differently. So now I’m actually not trying to woo him back and I definitely don’t want to look or sound emotionally needy and desperate, But I want to show him that I understand what ever he does not like it and I will try to improve it if i done anything wrong. and just to calm things down and be at least friends in a good condition. He was a big trigger in all that problem that develop this way because he just didn’t think what he was doing then he just put all the blame on me. Well does not matter anymore. But all I would love to do now is just to keep everything cool. He is like my family and my family also know him. they love him so much so I think is good to keep things balanced, if we ever feel for having fun then it will just be fun because I don’t feel for him the same anymore. I know him and I know if I will try to talk about it over and over and keep situation serious about it then everything will go just negative. I need to bring a good mood around all that so all that pressure will go away and what it meant to be it will be and thats how I can move on. Also I’m lack of self-confidence naturally and I can’t help it. If someone will blame me about something then I feel guilty for a long time before I start to think there was never nothing wrong with me but then is usually too late to stand up by myown side. I’m naturally more mysterious person and what ever is in my mind I have difficulties to bringing out. My bf is very outspoken and what ever he think is exactly he will tell you. And he is honest up to the pain.