# G'day **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 5, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530 "2008-11-05T17:25:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/1 "2008-11-05T17:25:08Z")
Hi. I’m a 19-year-old student from Finland, male. I’ve stumbled on [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) in some local online shops around here, but they all are sexual pheromones which seem to be alike, nothing I have actually bothered to try (and some cat pheromones for pe(s)t control 🙄) Recently I decided to do a bit of reasearch on these products (to test, just simple curiosity - I’m in a long-term relationship). Eventually I found my way on this forum (noticing only a few days later that it has anything to do with any pheromone producer:o) and after reading for a week or so decided to register. Once again, I’m here out of plain curiosity and doing my own research on people’s behaviour (not necessarily pheromone-related, but pheromones seem to be a nice way to double-check reactions to certain things). I’m quite introverted, yet confident. At times I tend to be some unnoticeable force in the background, and then again sometimes I attract various kinds of attention (wether I like it or not - I should probably brush up my social skills on that one). I’ve thought of trying a314, most of the instant line and possibly turn up the heat. What do you guys reccomend trying first (e.g. up to 2-3 different products, I’m living on a student budget). ---
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/2 "2008-11-05T17:41:03Z")
Hello from Finland I’ve just lost a post I was making here, which was considerably longer than this one, but I don’t have the energy to re-write it. So. Male, 19, student, Finland. The reason I found myself here is that there are only sexual [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) (plus cat pheromones for pe(s)t control 🙄) sold anywhere here (online shops included) and they apparently tend to be all alike, so I tried to do some research on them and eventually ended up here. The only real interest I have in pheromones is pure curiosity, but judging from the posts I’ve read so far they might have more than that in store. I’ve been thinking of trying a314, the instant line and possibly turn up the heat (I’m in a long-term relationship). Going on a student budget, what would you guys recommend I try first? I’m introverted, yet confident, so I’m kind of a some background force most of the time. On the other hand, time and time again I get abnormal attention from some people (sometimes good, sometimes bad, but I probably need to brush my social skills on that one). ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/3 "2008-11-05T18:12:25Z")
Hi freddy, Good to have you in Pherotalk so welcome on board 🙂 It is good that you decided to join this forum after reading it for a week 🙂 Ok for us to give our recommendation, you need to tell us what you hope to achieve by using pheros & what kind of effects you hope to get from your targets 🙂 I will be waiting for your reply 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/4 "2008-11-05T18:42:43Z")
Welcome freddy- A314 will help with your confidence some. Being 19 Instant gentleman may be a better choice for you, especially in a social setting. Work or professionally A314 might work better. instant shine will help more than the other products with confidence, as happy people are typically a little more confidant or stop to care less what is going on. IO will help open you up, if you are able to talk, as it will help start conversations, I am slightly introverted as well as I stumble getting conversations started, so IO and CTTM2 are great products for this. IH and [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) are great products as well Ammo is a good balanced phero blend for social clubbing as well as dating. Let us know how it goes for you, we are always here to help ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/5 "2008-11-05T20:50:36Z")
Hello and welcome to the forum. You have the right idea - give everything a try. Given your age I would recommend starting with the following three products (given you guidelines): [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) - it will help give you a smooth vibe and it often helps you seem a little older IO - to help get a lot of conversations going on around you IShine - to help people around you feel happy to be near you I would maybe hold off on the A314 as it is very work related and can be a little tricky. ---
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 8:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/6 "2008-11-06T08:25:13Z")
> [@PhatSounds](#): > > Hi freddy, > > Good to have you in Pherotalk so welcome on board 🙂 It is good that you decided to join this forum after reading it for a week 🙂 > > Ok for us to give our recommendation, you need to tell us what you hope to achieve by using pheros & what kind of effects you hope to get from your targets 🙂 > > I will be waiting for your reply 🙂 As I said before, there isn’t really anything particular/important I would like to achieve with pheromones, it is more plain curiosity. However, what probably should be adressed is my introversy, since it isn’t allways a good thing, so something to get the conversation going without giving it too much thought. [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)? CTTM mix2 maybe? Then there is probably really nothing for the unwanted attention from time to time besides basic social skills, is there? Hmm. Actually, after going through the forums some more there might be some things you guys could help me with. My girlfriend has some inhibitions, both sexual and social, which she herself pretty much dislikes. Also, she tends to get depressed easily and for long times. Anything that might help with these issues? Instant female magic maybe? (Also you can recommend products for her to wear as well.) Thanks a lot for your replies! ---
**Author:** ![PhatSounds](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phatsounds/32/233_2.png) [@PhatSounds](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PhatSounds)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 8:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/7 "2008-11-06T08:57:20Z")
> [@freddy](#): > > As I said before, there isn’t really anything particular/important I would like to achieve with pheromones, it is more plain curiosity. > > However, what probably should be adressed is my introversy, since it isn’t allways a good thing, so something to get the conversation going without giving it too much thought. Instant Honesty? CTTM mix2 maybe? > > Then there is probably really nothing for the unwanted attention from time to time besides basic social skills, is there? > > Hmm. Actually, after going through the forums some more there might be some things you guys could help me with. > > My girlfriend has some inhibitions, both sexual and social, which she herself pretty much dislikes. Also, she tends to get depressed easily and for long times. Anything that might help with these issues? Instant female magic maybe? (Also you can recommend products for her to wear as well.) > > Thanks a lot for your replies! Hmm, so it is just plain curiousity, ok for conversation, i would recommend Instant Openness as it is used for smoother, better & easier conversation 🙂 Instant Honesty is best used for your relationship as it deepen the conversation between couples there 🙂 CTTM2 is not recommended in my opinion as it is still an experimental phero so don’t expect results from this phero & for your info, it has 50% of Instant Openness & 50% Instant Honesty. I have all the pheros that you have said there so that’s why i stated out the facts there for you to know 🙂 Well for your GF situation, i would recommend Instant Shine as this phero can make you & your GF feel good/comfortable plus it boost your confidence as well 🙂 [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is also great for calming down girls too. But i noticed on my own opinion Instant Shine is more to your face results but it is up to you to decide there either you want to get Instant Shine or Instant Female Magic. Well if you want recommendation on what your GF could wear, Instant Sexiness is a good recommendation as it is sexual attraction phero catered to girls only 🙂 Btw it come in two types A & B. Well i have tell you what i know. Hope that helps. See you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 1:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/8 "2008-11-06T13:25:51Z")
> [@freddy](#): > > However, what probably should be adressed is my introversy, since it isn’t allways a good thing, so something to get the conversation going without giving it too much thought. Instant Honesty? CTTM mix2 maybe? IO or CTTMc which I gather you have figured out is a 50/50 mix of alpha nols (IO) and beta nols (IH) would work great. Maybe some IShine too as it can help you feel “up” instead of worried about being shy or being rejected. > [@freddy](#): > > My girlfriend has some inhibitions, both sexual and social, which she herself pretty much dislikes. Also, she tends to get depressed easily and for long times. Anything that might help with these issues? Instant female magic maybe? (Also you can recommend products for her to wear as well.) Phat was pretty much on it - IShine and IFM. Either of both of you could actually wear both. Then the IS/a might help her feel more confident. But for depression especially if it lasts long periods she probably should see someone for a professional opinion. She might benefit from medicine and some counselling to help develop better coping skills so she can better deal with the bumps we hit in life. And its great she has someone like you who cares enough to want to help … ---
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2008, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/9 "2008-11-06T18:32:23Z")
Thanks for the replies, guys. > [@bosshank](#): > > But for depression especially if it lasts long periods she probably should see someone for a professional opinion. She might benefit from medicine and some counselling to help develop better coping skills so she can better deal with the bumps we hit in life. > > And its great she has someone like you who cares enough to want to help … Yeah, I’m aware of that and I don’t excpect pheromones to be the answer, just something to make life a little easier, and partly the depression is more or less direct consequence of the social inhibitions, e.g. because of stressing too much of what people might think of her (and then again part of it is her being a perfectionist and wanting to get too much done. That’s a problem we both have. I try to support her as much as I can and luckily that is often enough to keep .her out of feeling extremely bad even during the worst times) Once again, thanks for your replies. I’ve decided to go for the to-go bottles, them being cheaper to start with making it possible to test many different products and htne deciding which ones I want to use. Based on your replies and reading the forum in general what I probably will be ordering are to-go bottles of Instant Openness, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty, Instant Female magic for men, Instant sexyness for women and Instant Female magic for women, for me and my GF respectively. Also depending on my final budget possibly a to-go bottle of turn up the heat. (Too bad the DHL service costs about the same amount as the giftcard I’ll hopefully get, but that’s my problem living so far off.) What do you guys think? Also I’d go for Instant Gentleman but it doesn’t seem to come in a to-go bottle so later with that one. I’ll go through these to decide what suits me best and at what dosage. On one hand I’m still sceptic towards the whole concept, but on the other I don’t want to order just one small bottle with posting costs so large, and if I order something that’s wrong for me I could get the wrong impression of pheromones in general, which would be quite dumb. Are the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) (Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty) the same for both men and women? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/10 "2008-11-07T00:06:24Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 😃 Looks like your doing your research and you have made some great picks to start with. I usually dont suggest putatives for new people but you may want to read up on [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) and get it on your next round. You had mentioned you GF had some inhibitions and this tends to loosen those up a bit. If you need help or have questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way 😃** Tisha ---
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 7:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/11 "2008-11-07T07:32:14Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 😃 > > Looks like your doing your research and you have made some great picks to start with. > > I usually dont suggest putatives for new people but you may want to read up on P83 and get it on your next round. You had mentioned you GF had some inhibitions and this tends to loosen those up a bit. > > If you need help or have questions just ask. > > **Your GC is on its way 😃** > > Tisha Thanks, it should cover my shipping costs, LOL. I’ll look into P83 when I’ve tested what I’m ordering. Sorry to bump this up, but I have nearly perfect conditions for testing next week’s weekend (seeing a more or less random group of people most of whom I have never seen or only met once), so I want to place my order in time. What I need is the answer to a question I posted earlier: > [@freddy](#): > > Are the social pheromones (Instant Shine, Instant Openness, Instant Honesty) the same for both men and women? Meaning do I need to order for example a different [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) for my GF or can we use the same bottle? Tish? Once again, thanks. The attitude of this forum makes it really easy to be here and get the information you need from more experinced users without having to go through an immense amount of threads and posts every time. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/12 "2008-11-07T16:12:30Z")
> [@freddy](#): > > What I need is the answer to a question I posted earlier: > Meaning do I need to order for example a different Instant Shine for my GF or can we use the same bottle? Tish? I believe the mix is the same for men and women. (as the [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) spray on the women’s page says for men.) The other socials, (IH and IO are specific to females, as they have a /w suffix, yet I know many guys who claim their girls have “borrowed” a few sprays or used half of a bottle over time) ---
**Author:** ![disciple.of.socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@disciple.of.socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/disciple.of.socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/13 "2008-11-07T16:36:27Z")
> [@freddy](#): > > Once again, I’m here out of plain curiosity and doing my own research on people’s behaviour (not necessarily pheromone-related, but pheromones seem to be a nice way to double-check reactions to certain things). > > I’m quite introverted, yet confident. At times I tend to be some unnoticeable force in the background, and then again sometimes I attract various kinds of attention (wether I like it or not - I should probably brush up my social skills on that one). welcome friend. you and i are in the same boat. i have personally been recommended AMMO and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). both should work for you as well. keep me posted with your results, and i’ll share mine as well. good luck, and the best. ---
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/14 "2008-11-07T17:35:49Z")
> [@woofie2](#): > > I believe the mix is the same for men and women. (as the Instant Shine spray on the women’s page says for men.) > The other socials, (IH and IO are specific to females, as they have a /w suffix, yet I know many guys who claim their girls have “borrowed” a few sprays or used half of a bottle over time) Okay, thanks a lot. I’ll place my order as soon as the money I transferred to my paypal account appears there. Now I’ll probably get the order before next weekend and have time to test 🙂 I’ll try to post my results (even if I have no other reason to do so just as a thank-you for the help I’ve recieved here) around here. Thanks again 😃 Speaking of the products mentioned above so far (not instant gentleman - it doesn’t seem to come TOGO), what do you think I should test in the following eviroment (I know there are several options but I’m terrible at picking when the choice doesn’t really matter since I’m gonna test others later)? Semilarge group of people (plus minus 20 people) of whom… …a few I know well …1 is my GF …some I have seen once or twice before …the rest are pretty much complete strangers… We will be in different locations around town (shops, cafés, possibly bars with a small portion of the group). The people in the group tend to be quite chatty/loud but can divide into smaller groups and moving from one small group to another can be quite hard after they have been established, so to mkae that easier would be nice probably. Instant Openness probably? I haven’t ordered yet so if someone has something to say that would make me change my mind I’m more than willing to hear you out. EDIT: Problem with [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) resolved: > [@](#): > > Okay, I finally resolved this issue by adding IO and IH to the shopping cart from both sides. > > After adding “Men’s” IO & IH I added “Women’s” IO and IH (both TOGO) and went to see my shopping cart, and guess what? It just had 2 IO’s and 2 IH’s 🙂 So yeah, they’re the same. ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/gday/22530/15 "2008-11-07T18:24:54Z")
Hey Freddie! Nice to have you on the forum. I actually replied to your “socials” question in the feedback section but those posts have to be approved by the moderators, so it may not have shown up yet. I’m glad you got it figured out. As for any further suggestions on what to order, I’d say that what you posted earlier, particularly for help with your introversy, is exactly what I would have suggested. That’s a well-balanced order you’ve got going there: “Based on your replies and reading the forum in general what I probably will be ordering are to-go bottles of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) , [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) , [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), [Instant Female magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for men, Instant sexyness for women and [Instant Female magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for women, for me and my GF respectively. Also depending on my final budget possibly a to-go bottle of [turn up the heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) .” Good luck to you!