# Genesis Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 21, 2007, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814 "2007-11-21T11:20:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 11:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/1 "2007-11-21T11:20:15Z")
Hey guys, my friend and I recently made an order from Androtics and received Ammo (regular bottle) turn up the heat (to-go) instant honesty 2x strength (to-go) instant shine (to-go) instant female magic (to-go) i think everyone has noticed this, but the to-go sprays are smaller than the sprays from my regular ammo bottle. Does anyone know the ratio for that? It almost seems like 2 sprays togo bottle = 1 spray regular bottle backgrounds about me: i’m about 5’5 (midget size!), asian (viet), not socially retarded, but not the loudest person in the group either. I don’t have trouble talking, but i think most guys have trouble approaching which is my problem. my targets are asian girls mainly because my school is full of them and my area is mainly asian as well. anyway, i was so excited that i had to try the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) out. day 1: location: mall 2x ammo 1 to wrist and 1 to throat 2x instant honest 2x to hair 1x instant female magic to neck 1x instant shine to face this is like just way too much for my first time, but i was so excited i couldn’t help myself. i knew the effects probably wouldn’t have been good, but i couldn’t resist! this was my first time exposed to pheromones so i think i got a little light headed for the first 30 minutes. It was a moderately cool day and the sun was out with decent humidity. As i was walking around the mall, i think i got what is an OD effect as my first time. I’m not sure, but i received no attention from any of the workers. Some greeted me as i entered the stores, but as i got closer looked away from me and LITERALLY talked to me as they were looking in any other directions except mine! anyway. i expected this. day 2: location: school diner/classroom 2x sprays instant honesty 2x togo size (hair) 1x sprays instant female magic (back of neck) me and 2 of my female classmates. we were studying for a midterm in the lounge of the cafeteria at my school, but about 30 minutes into studying we started side-tracked talking about a lot of random stuff. nothing personal, just a lot of random stuff about what we did in our high schools (we didnt go to school together, we all just met this year) after the 30 mintues of studying and an hour of talking, we went to class to take the midterm. after the midterm was our lab class. During lab we were just experimenting, but i was a little lost so i asked these girls near me some questions. they didnt know either, but i noticed they did something wrong on their paper so i told em about it so they dont lose any points for the lab. now i didnt really say anything except “hey you should mark these differently”, but when i walked away i just overhear one of em say “oh he’s so niice” and the other one agrees to it as they giggled. i didnt look at em because they were behind me, but i assumed they were talking about me even though i didnt do anything lol. at the end of class they finished their lab early so they left almost before anyone else, but as the reached the door, one of them just kinda stopped near the door turned around and said bye to just me. these things to me seem like i’m over thinking and over analyzing things, because i know these things can happen without pheromones so it may not just be a hit. i’m stating as many details as i can, because i made an effort to take notice on anything that may SEEM like the smallest of a hit. i’m still a little skeptical about this, but i’m staying open minded to see if it’s just the inconsistency with the products. ---
**Author:** ![kaffles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kaffles/32/945_2.png) [@kaffles](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kaffles)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/2 "2007-11-21T12:45:50Z")
I had really good results with IFM. I personally love them, just a little concerned about the smell though. Just try using only IFM or with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Thats like my daily mix and I get hella good results with girls I already knew. To me IFM tends to make them very touchy and sit close to me. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/3 "2007-11-21T14:03:41Z")
Try adding a shot or 2 of IS to your day 2 mix and I think you’ll see an even better effect with the girl classmates. I think what you saw was probably the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) working it’s magic and would also dose an extra spray of that also, then see if you don’t see even more pronounced effects. You get a rep from me for detailing your results so well. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/4 "2007-11-21T17:57:41Z")
Great post Genesis! Here’s a rep point. I’m gonna disagree in a most friendly manner with Mark and Kaffles and bet that the IH is what had your classmates looking back at you. Of course the only way to find out is testing one thing at a time until you know for sure. Tisha calls spraying everything on at once a “newbie baptism”. I did it too. Good luck and keep posting those results! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/5 "2007-11-21T22:10:46Z")
thanks for the advice guys! i definitely went through the “newbie baptism” lol day 3: location: classroom 2x instant shine front of neck i just got back from my class and had shine on for the previous 2 hours. Today was a speech day so I tried it on to see if i can get self effects along with effects with others. I didn’t notice any self effects (possibly because i slept late last night and was super tired this morning) i wonder if this can cause pheromones to not work for self effects i’m about to head out to see if the effects will kick in after the 2 hours. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2007, 1:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/6 "2007-11-22T01:25:04Z")
> [@](#): > > (possibly because i slept late last night and was super tired this morning) i wonder if this can cause pheromones to not work for self effects Maybe. Another thing could be water, “the Mad Tater” mentions this frequently and I agree. I’m finding that the healthier I feel the better pheromones seem to work. The big four that affect you daily and that you can affect daily are rest, water, balanced diet, and exercise. Self effects are different for everybody though. I don’t get much from ishine either and the effects on others around me are subtle. Once I figured them out though I started seeing them more often. Most things have taken about a week’s use to get a feel for. It doesn’t stop there though I learn something new just about each time I wear them. ---
**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2007, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/7 "2007-11-25T13:49:51Z")
didnt apply any mones applications through thanksgiving so no report for that time period. day 4: location: mall day after thanksgiving instant shine 3x. 2x top of chest near neck. 1x underneath chin on neck was super tired because i camped out for the black friday sale at fry’s. i went to sleep at 9 am and woke up at 5 pm. decided to go to the mall with a few friends to check out some clothes. used the instant shine cus i’m still experimenting it and i was hoping it would have given me a pick me up from my tiredness. i’m not sure if it did anything to me, but during the car ride, my friends and i were arguing alot about random topics like religion and even grammar. after walking aroudn the mall for a couple hours we sat down for a break at the food court and got snacks. felt pretty tired at the point and didnt really wanna move around anymore. got home and just went to sleep. day 5: location: friends house / tapioca express (drink place) shine 4x 2x to front of neck 2x to hair didn’t notice any effects at all. i went to my friends place in the afternoon and we chilled there for awhile playing ps3. i was actually pretty bored for most of the time. my friend acted the same as always, pretty lazy and chill. after awhile, one of our friends from the neighborhood came over after i invited her to kick it with us. once she go there we played some more games and she kicked my ass. but we were overall pretty calm and chill. very casual talk and sarcastic jokes. 2 hours later, we went to tap ex and i didnt apply anything else because i figured the instant shine still had effect after 2 hours. at tap ex we stayed there for awhile just talking and playing cards until i saw these 2 girls come in; one of em was pretty cute. i was just playin cards but i faced the door so she kept staring at me while walking in and i kinda just laughed. after she ordered and got her drinks, she just sat down and talked with her friends. i got up to get some napkins and was about to sit back down at my table but she stopped me and asked if i knew her friend from a local high school. i said no and i guess she felt embarrassed so she started stuttering, i felt bad so i asked if she wanted to join us in our card game of bullshit. we played for awhile, talked, and eventually my friend had to leave so we parted ways. this is just like a diary report, i don’t really see a relevance in the conversation with the girl and instant shine. she was nervous pretty much the entire time and her friend spoke like 2 words. i felt pretty normal, maybe my posture might’ve been better but not sure. i know i felt pretty lazy though, almost lethargic. while we’ve all read that instant shine has an uplifting effect on the user and keeps the mood happy and energetic, i believe that this might be almost a placebo effect. dont get me wrong, i’m not doubting the pheromones, i’m just theorizing from what i read about gegogi said how pheremones simply “enhances” the desired outcomes. from this i figure that you have to already be prepared to BE in a HAPPY ENERGETIC mood so that the instant shine will make it even more energetic or such. i dont think the self effects of the pheromones can be strong enough to change your entire mood, but enhance whatever mood its supposed to be enhancing. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/8 "2007-11-25T14:36:54Z")
> [@Genesis](#): > > … > i think everyone has noticed this, but the to-go sprays are smaller than the sprays from my regular ammo bottle. Does anyone know the ratio for that? It almost seems like 2 sprays togo bottle = 1 spray regular bottle > > … to go spray volume/regular = 0.83/1 ---
**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/9 "2007-11-26T05:12:31Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > to go spray volume/regular = 0.83/1 such exact calculations! nice! ---
**Author:** ![Smudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@Smudge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Smudge)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 6:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/10 "2007-11-26T06:24:23Z")
Genesis, I recently posted my view on Shine and how I became a true believer of the effects of Shine and TAA after more than one year of disbelieve. You may want to dig it up. Put it simply, I feel the effects of Shine and TAA are context dependent. ---
**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2007, 9:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/11 "2007-11-26T09:45:10Z")
> [@dmags01](#): > > Genesis, I recently posted my view on Shine and how I became a true believer of the effects of Shine and TAA after more than one year of disbelieve. You may want to dig it up. Put it simply, I feel the effects of Shine and TAA are context dependent. found your thread. but can you elaborate a little more? i’m usually generally a happy person so i’m guessing shine isn’t what i need lol. ---
**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2007, 10:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/genesis-journal/6814/12 "2007-12-03T10:53:39Z")
So i’ve been missing on my reports lately, but here they are! location: san francisco 3x instant honest 2x strength in hair 2x instant female magic back of neck both to-go bottles friend i was with 3x ammo i think not sure where 1x shine somewhere else as well wanted to do a little early christmas shopping so i thought i’d go there on the weekends. parked in a parking lot near the main square, but had to pay some extra scrilla. DIHL received from a middle aged filipino lady right when the elevator door opens. The second the door opened, i was about to step out and she was right in front so i was a little startled and said sorry for almost bumping into her. her eyes opened wide, but she had no expression on her face. she literally froze for a second and quickly snapped back together and went into the elevator before even letting me out. i’m assuming this is from my friend’s ammo or all the pheromones hitting her at once overall. location: local juice place 4x instant honest 2x strength to the hair 2x ammo one to neck and rubbed it on sides of neck and hands my friend was the barista there and she always hooks it up on the drinks so this is nothing out of the ordinary. we’re merely acquaintances and rarely speak to each other because i visit the place so often. we usually just greet each other and go on with whatever we’re doing. however, today was different, the minute i went in i see her with another guy, i’m assuming it’s her friend or someone hitting on her (i know her bf so i know it wasn’t him). so i was up to order and after she takes my order, she starts asking about how i’ve been and such. we only talked for a minute or so, but she goes and makes my drink after the small talk. i’m not sure if i can classify this as a hit, but the honesty might’ve been in effect.