# Get the pheromones out! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 21, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664 "2007-12-21T23:02:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Plotinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Plotinus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Plotinus)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/1 "2007-12-21T23:02:59Z")
Hello everyone, I’ve just started using IFM, which is the first pheromone I’ve purchased. I’ve noticed that after spraying it on my shirt, and then washing the shirt, it tends to leave an odor. Does anyone have any tricks or tips for treating cloth to get the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) out, like something to put on the shirt to dissolve them before putting in the washer for example? What about when pheromones stubbornly won’t come off your skin? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 12:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/2 "2007-12-22T12:00:23Z")
oxy-clean Dont spray on shirt, Use a cover if you feel its smelly and I agree it is. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/3 "2007-12-22T19:23:26Z")
> [@](#): > > What about when pheromones stubbornly won’t come off your skin? Save a deep skin peel, ain’t nuttin’ you can do except give it a few days to mellow out. Many folks report great hits with faded, vintage pheromones the day after. Besides, after a good wash, you can’t smell it unless you put your snout directly on the spot, and who the hay does that? There are far worse places on your body to sniff… ---
**Author:** ![MadisonTate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MadisonTate](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MadisonTate)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/4 "2007-12-22T20:52:48Z")
1. Use chlorine bleach with an oxidizer. 2. Why, oh why, are you spraying pheros on your clothes? They arent cologne! 3. Even cologne should never be sprayed on clothes. ---
**Author:** ![Plotinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Plotinus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Plotinus)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/5 "2007-12-22T21:51:20Z")
I’ve never used cologne to any extent… I wouldn’t know how cologne is used. I spray the pheromones on my clothes because even if I can’t get the pheromones out of my clothes with ease, I can take the clothes off, whereas I cannot take my skin off. I really do not want to go to bed with the pheromones on my skin, or have them there the next day. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2007, 10:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/6 "2007-12-22T22:39:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Why, oh why, are you spraying pheros on your clothes? They arent cologne! There are perfectly good reasons to spray pheromones and/or cologne on clothing. Not everybody wants or should be a Tater: 1. **It works.** In fact, it’s proved to be extremely effective for me. 2. Many of us have sensitive skin–I do. About 75% of [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) and colognes I’ve tried irritate my skin. I break out in a rash. It’s actually the fragrance component that usually does it (that’s why I prefer unscented), although some oils don’t agree with me either. I have to avoid all soaps and shampoos with fragrance. Even brushing against most plants gives me a rash (& I’m into organic gardening!). Laundry soap with fragrance has caused my body to be covered from neck to feet in bleeding rashes. I thought my privates wre going to fall off… 3. Normally I’m covered from neck to feet with layers of clothing. The pheromones I can wear on my skin can’t escape very effectively. 4. Cloth apps last longer as they’re less susceptible to bacterial breakdown or being washed away. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/7 "2007-12-23T12:27:49Z")
From Gegogi’s posts I have tried cloths applications myself. I admire his experience and opinion on mones so I figured ok lets give it a go. I think it has its good and bad points just like skin applications so its a matter of preferance. I will say that I do think skin application is ideal because this is where you natural mone output comes from. I tend to get stronger hits and a better blending of my cover scent. Its easier to remove in my opinion. Cloths applications do work and I think are a good option for when you have sensitive skin or you need to remain covered up all day. I tend to find the smell is more bothersome to myself when on cloths and the hits are much less pronounced but it works. You can also remove your cloths if you dont like the reaction your getting easier then finding a shower. Of course this may not be a good thing if your using mones for a sexual encounter. I do notice you need to be careful about what type of cloths you spray it on. I ruined 1 good blouse because it left a mark I cant get out. Smell is gone mark is still there. Plus there is certain cloth like cottons that I have to wash twice or the smell remains even with oxy clean. I however do not think its noticable to anyone but myself. Just my 2 cents Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/8 "2007-12-23T18:32:19Z")
> [@](#): > > Tisha purrs, “You can also remove your cloths if you dont like the reaction your getting easier then finding a shower. Of course this may not be a good thing if your using pheromones for a sexual encounter.” I guess I’ve been going on too many dates but I often don’t remove clothing for sex! More nasty and spontaneous. Nekid is more of a at home and living together thing… Although I apply mainly to clothing, I still apply selected (safe pheromones) to hair and some skin. My fav spot is actually my pants because it’s far from my nose. And women seem to like it there as well. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/9 "2007-12-23T19:43:03Z")
> [@Plotinus](#): > > What about when pheromones stubbornly won’t come off your skin? A trip to the sauna with a hard rub on your application points. ---
**Author:** ![Plotinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Plotinus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Plotinus)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/10 "2007-12-23T21:42:45Z")
A trip to the sauna isn’t exactly convenient. Hard rubbing irritates. I will try oxy clean but it seems as if people are saying it doesn’t even always completely remove the scent. I think someone needs to think scientifically about what would act as a good solvent on the pheromones based on their chemical qualities and do some tests for removing them from skin, hair and fabrics. With as much time and effort as is put into the testing of these various products, it seems like this would be a fruitful line of research. ---
**Author:** ![Plotinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/57b2e6/32.png) [@Plotinus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Plotinus)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/11 "2007-12-27T18:44:48Z")
For example… from my own research I have discovered that pheromones are terpenes… terpenes are aromatic lipids, and since they are non-polar, a polar solvent like water, alcohol or vinegar is not likely to work on them. A lot of non-polar solvents are not things you’d want to use on your body or clothes, such as benzene, hexane or petroleum naphtha. However, there is hope. Basically you want a solvent with a dielectric constant as close to those of the thing you are trying to dissolve, as possible. While such lists exist online, I have not been able to find out the dielectric constants of [human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). Orange and Lemon oil are non-polar solvents (with a low dielectric constant), as is pine oil and even possibly vegetable oil (which is also non-polar) and some rubbing action might dissolve the pheromones. I am thinking that vegetable or olive oil may be useful for weakening the pheromones on the skin, while citrus oils may be useful for skin, hair and clothing. Citrus oils primarily contain limonene which cuts through skin oils. It is possible that combinations of these would work well. I’m going to experiment with these when I have the time. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2007, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/get-the-pheromones-out/7664/12 "2007-12-27T18:59:31Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > > [@Plotinus](#): > > > > What about when pheromones stubbornly won’t come off your skin? > > A trip to the sauna with a hard rub on your application points. Sweat is a solvent, so the sauna is a good idea, relaxing too. MHarris specified a particular ingredient in shampoo that was very effective in removing all pheros, but I’ve forgotten as I’ve lost interest in removing all pheros, heh! It’s searchable. For “spot cleaning” on your body, I suggest you do NOT use oxyclean – that’s for washable clothing only. Instead, get a bottle of hydrogen peroxide H2O2 (about $1 per quart on sale) at your pharma shop or full-line grocery. After you soap and rinse in the shower, one of those ketchup/mustard squirt bottles works perfectly to direct a jet of H2O2 to the application points you’ve cleaned. The foaming of the H2O2 oxidizes the pheros, the shower can then wash all away (before you bleach your chest hairs.) Cheers MarkL