# Getting back into dating and need some winning combos **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 19, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804 "2011-12-19T05:27:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/1 "2011-12-19T05:27:57Z")
Hey there phero pros, I’ve recently got back into dating. Money isn’t an issue here and I’m very open to ExeriMones or anything else. What do you guys/gals say is some winning combos for hooking the girl and getting those dates to go well? Keep in mind I’m going for a long-term gf and NOT sex. What may make me sexy in a respectful way while really getting the gal I’m seeing to fall head over heels for me? Thanks in advance! -V ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 8:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/2 "2011-12-19T08:13:02Z")
Hi there Veratus, welcome to the forum! If you are just starting out, and don’t have any experience with the products I would recommend starting out with the social products first like IS, IO and IH and see what it does to you and to other people when you get the hang of it you could add some masculine products like A314, AMMO etc… I wouldn’t touch the Experimone/Putative series just yet until you become familiar with the Consumer products. As for going for a long-term gf, A314 as a masculine base for confidence, masculinity and respect combined with socials like IS (happy/glow), IO (approachable) and IH (comfort) could be a good place to start. Hope that helped. ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/3 "2011-12-19T12:29:57Z")
> [@Veratus](#): > > Hey there phero pros, > > I’ve recently got back into dating. Money isn’t an issue here and I’m very open to ExeriMones or anything else. What do you guys/gals say is some winning combos for hooking the girl and getting those dates to go well? > > Keep in mind I’m going for a long-term gf and NOT sex. What may make me sexy in a respectful way while really getting the gal I’m seeing to fall head over heels for me? > > Thanks in advance! > > -V How old are you and what is the age range of your targets? ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/4 "2011-12-19T17:03:07Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > How old are you and what is the age range of your targets? Hey, Thanks for the reply. I’ve been working with the mones since 2009 now off and on. I’m no pro but I’m not fresh either. @Ghost I’m 23 and looking to meet the females in the 21 - 26 range. I’d assume certain combos won’t work. I’ve had personal luck with AMMOX2 on the chest and ISX1 in the hair. It gets the girls quiet ready for sex but I’m looking for a dating mixture now that doesn’t put me into the friend category or the honry guy category either. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/5 "2011-12-19T18:42:48Z")
Have you had a look at this thread? > [@Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832): > > Which pheromones do you guys use for each phase of seduction, in terms of something like the Mystery Method or Neil Strauss’ Game? We were thinking something like this: Attraction: IO or Liquid Sunshine + Instant Shine + small amount of TUTH The IO or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath o… Lots of good advice there. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/6 "2011-12-19T18:52:30Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Have you had a look at this thread? > > [Pheromones for Pickup: Attraction, Comfort, Seduction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheromones-for-pickup-attraction-comfort-seduction/832) > > Lots of good advice there. 🙂 I agree and I’ve checked there 🙂 I’m looking at this to be exact: **Attraction:** [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Liquid Sunshine + [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) + small amount of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) The [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath of fresh air. The _small_ amount of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) will let 'em know you’re not just a friend. The key here being TUTH BUT my big question is that on the product site it says “When dating, only use Turn Up The Heat when the woman is comfortable enough with you to take things to the next level (this usually requires a minimum of 4-7 hours spent together at different venues).” Yet the “attraction” mix states use a tiny amount to show you are not a friend which is exactly my problem. I want to come off as a guy to date, not a “oh you’re adorable let’s be friends” ack! ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/7 "2011-12-19T19:42:33Z")
> [@Veratus](#): > > I agree and I’ve checked there 🙂 I’m looking at this to be exact: > > **Attraction:** [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Liquid Sunshine + Instant Shine + small amount of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) > > The [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good > > The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath of fresh air. > > The _small_ amount of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) will let 'em know you’re not just a friend. > > The key here being TUTH BUT my big question is that on the product site it says “When dating, only use Turn Up The Heat when the woman is comfortable enough with you to take things to the next level (this usually requires a minimum of 4-7 hours spent together at different venues).” > > Yet the “attraction” mix states use a tiny amount to show you are not a friend which is exactly my problem. I want to come off as a guy to date, not a “oh you’re adorable let’s be friends” ack! I would of said try IG but it looks like thats gone for good so I say stick with the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and IS that is a very consistant combo right there, for first dates I would also add a small amount of IO to try and avoid those awkward silences and to bring a bit of fun into it, second dates I would add IH to deepen the conversation and let her know you are a trustworthy easy to talk to guy. ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/8 "2011-12-19T19:47:42Z")
> [@THE\_GHOST](#): > > I would of said try IG but it looks like thats gone for good so I say stick with the Ammo and IS that is a very consistant combo right there, for first dates I would also add a small amount of IO to try and avoid those awkward silences and to bring a bit of fun into it, second dates I would add IH to deepen the conversation and let her know you are a trustworthy easy to talk to guy. Sounds good, I figured I’d stick with that. What about the friend zone BS? Would 1/2 spray of TUTH be enough to take the friendzone out of the picture without throwing too much sex at them? ---
**Author:** ![THE\_GHOST](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_ghost/32/1990_2.png) [@THE\_GHOST](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/THE_GHOST)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/9 "2011-12-19T19:59:17Z")
> [@Veratus](#): > > Sounds good, I figured I’d stick with that. What about the friend zone BS? Would 1/2 spray of TUTH be enough to take the friendzone out of the picture without throwing too much sex at them? If your using ammo I would not advise adding any tuth at all until your SURE she is ready to go home with you, aslong as you dont add too much IO or IH you shouldnt get put in “the zone” unless you put your self there, this is where testing comes in so you can figure out what dosage works best for you before you go out on a date. ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/10 "2011-12-19T20:25:51Z")
> [@Veratus](#): > > I’ve had personal luck with **AMMOX2 on the chest and ISX1 in the hair**. Can you translate that, please? To stay out of the friendzone is to not at like you want to be in the friend zone, IF you asked me. Give her the reason for a faster heart beat, even if it means to not brush your teeth for a week before the date. 😃 Still, with AMMO and IS working sexually for you, I’d stick with that, and not act on the SEXUAL, Sir. Sounds, to me, like you’re wanting A314 oil or spray, 'cause either = **HE’S ‘THE’ MAN. 😉** ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/11 "2011-12-19T20:47:07Z")
> [@M\_M](#): > > Can you translate that, please? > > To stay out of the friendzone is to not at like you want to be in the friend zone, IF you asked me. Give her the reason for a faster heart beat, even if it means to not brush your teeth for a week before the date. 😃 > > Still, with AMMO and IS working sexually for you, I’d stick with that, and not act on the SEXUAL, Sir. > > Sounds, to me, like you’re wanting A314 oil or spray, 'cause either = **HE’S ‘THE’ MAN. 😉** Meaning 2 sprays of AMMO and 1 of IS. Lol not brush it for a week. I’ll go with the sexuality blend but just not acting on it. ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/12 "2011-12-19T22:13:38Z")
Well the bigger question to me… what’s your style/game and what type of women are you usually attracted to? I’m always a big fan of cool kat’s post: [Chick Magnet mixes... Some newbies should try them!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142) But a lot of those can be hard to get ahold of for newbies (especially p83). The first one, though, “**Chick Magnet I (ages 22 to 29, plus/minus 5 years)** 3xAMMO (game) + 3x IS + 3xIH (all togo bottles)” can be pretty easy to put together. Might be what you are looking for. Maybe not. There are many more throughout the thread. The only thing I wonder about this one is that it’s a pretty phero heavy mix in my opinion. Do you really need that much of everyone one? I guess so. I trust the master. 😛 That being said… keep in mind that while nomes can help you get your foot in the door… especially in LTRs it’s going to be you that is going to have to keep it together. They can’t make up for lack of effort, interestingness, compatibility, etc. They can definitely add spice and can be great for picking up someone initially or helping you win a second date but your on your own from there… HOWEVER… keep in mind that you might need to keep with your mix. For example… if you are using IH heavy mix or something and she feels this deep connection (where there technically isn’t that much of one because not enough time has really passed for there to be) and you then suddenly stop using it, she might register it as having lost the connection or feeling and start doubting the relationship. I’m not saying this will always happen. But it can. Word of warning. I tend to find that stucking with what works… well… works… 😛 … that and running out can be detrimental… hehehe… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/13 "2011-12-19T22:25:03Z")
> [@Professor\_P](#): > > Well the bigger question to me… what’s your style/game and what type of women are you usually attracted to? > > I’m always a big fan of cool kat’s post: [Chick Magnet mixes... Some newbies should try them!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/chick-magnet-mixes-some-newbies-should-try-them/42142) > > But a lot of those can be hard to get ahold of for newbies (especially p83). > > The first one, though, “**Chick Magnet I (ages 22 to 29, plus/minus 5 years)** > 3xAMMO (game) + 3x IS + 3xIH (all togo bottles)” can be pretty easy to put together. Might be what you are looking for. Maybe not. There are many more throughout the thread. The only thing I wonder about this one is that it’s a pretty phero heavy mix in my opinion. Do you really need that much of everyone one? I guess so. I trust the master. 😛 > > That being said… keep in mind that while nomes can help you get your foot in the door… especially in LTRs it’s going to be you that is going to have to keep it together. They can’t make up for lack of effort, interestingness, compatibility, etc. They can definitely add spice and can be great for picking up someone initially or helping you win a second date but your on your own from there… > > HOWEVER… keep in mind that you might need to keep with your mix. For example… if you are using IH heavy mix or something and she feels this deep connection (where there technically isn’t that much of one because not enough time has really passed for there to be) and you then suddenly stop using it, she might register it as having lost the connection or feeling and start doubting the relationship. I’m not saying this will always happen. But it can. Word of warning. > > I tend to find that stucking with what works… well… works… 😛 … that and running out can be detrimental… hehehe… 😛 This is exactly what I needed 🙂 Didn’t know those posting exsisted, excellent. I’d have to agree though that x3 of all those would produce OD for me. x1.5 of each at max. Ha good point, I just ordered me another $100 round of my favorites so I may have to double that. Def something to note though, that if she is hooked without actually knowing why, stopping the mones would be a bad thing. I’ve noticed in all the “first step type mones” none of them mentioned TUTH at all. Is that strictly for sex? ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/14 "2011-12-19T22:47:40Z")
> [@Veratus](#): > > This is exactly what I needed 🙂 Didn’t know those posting exsisted, excellent. I’d have to agree though that x3 of all those would produce OD for me. x1.5 of each at max. > > Ha good point, I just ordered me another $100 round of my favorites so I may have to double that. Def something to note though, that if she is hooked without actually knowing why, stopping the mones would be a bad thing. I’ve noticed in all the “first step type mones” none of them mentioned TUTH at all. Is that strictly for sex? Well… you can’t really “OD” on socials… but I’d probably go with 2 sprays of each and see how that works. Then maybe try 3 sprays. It just might we wasteful to go with 3 of all. (Getting the big bottles over the to-gos is way more cost effect fyi.) And yeah. Hahaha… Exactly! She gets hooked without actually knowing why… then stopping. Done that before (well ran out back when I was first playing around with this stuff). Didn’t end well. And its the worst thing because it wasn’t that she didn’t think I was a great guy. She just wasn’t feeling that special “it” factor anymore. ROFL! _shakes head_ Of course, then you might say it’s just as well and that it was all the nomes in the first place. This isn’t the case. We had good chemistry to begin with even before them. The problem is that they can majorly accelerate the relationship and if they don’t know why but they feel super close and grow to love that and you have all these deep moments and then that feeling is suddenly gone that’s too big of a shock to someone’s system to do that to them. It’s gonna instantly register… Panic! Something’s wrong! What’s going on! Maybe I was wrong! Eject! 😛 As for TUTH… you read my observations post on it? _shrugs_ Yeah… it can add alpha to any mix… but it definitey has a sexually charged tint to it. If you are just looking for sensual ammo should be plenty. TUTH is definitely a more sexual nome. :? ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/15 "2011-12-19T22:54:36Z")
Yea that was a good review overall, even more so on TUTH. Guess in this case I’ll just have to work with everything and see what I like. I love AMMO and have had proof that is works great. The only problem is that it is a tad too strong in the smell. I wear very expensive cologne simply because you pay for what you get. If I’m wearing my Armani I don’t want AMMO to send the gal into scent overload. If only there was something with a simple neroli but had AMMO’s power! ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/16 "2011-12-19T23:00:37Z")
> [@Veratus](#): > > Yea that was a good review overall, even more so on TUTH. Guess in this case I’ll just have to work with everything and see what I like. I love AMMO and have had proof that is works great. The only problem is that it is a tad too strong in the smell. I wear very expensive cologne simply because you pay for what you get. If I’m wearing my Armani I don’t want AMMO to send the gal into scent overload. If only there was something with a simple neroli but had AMMO’s power! Ah! Ok. Try the FF21 or FF22 scent. (can’t remember which it is. But it’s the only other). It’s more flowery and light. More like freshly clean clothes. I hear you. I tend to like scents that compliment my colognes because I also like to use expensive colognes. The pheros by themselves is not enough and neither is the cologne. I want my scent to be signature to me and only me. 😛 But TUTH can replace ammo. Ammo has none in it (which TUTH is pretty much entirely). Try 5mcgs of TUTH, with 25 mcgs of TAC, and a spray of IH (and/or maybe 1 spray of IO). See how that works for you. I think you might find it mimics Ammo pretty decently or maybe even work better for you. You can definitely control the smell aspect much easier that way. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/17 "2011-12-19T23:06:07Z")
> [@Professor\_P](#): > > Ah! Ok. Try the FF21 or FF22 scent. (can’t remember which it is. But it’s the only other). It’s more flowery and light. More like freshly clean clothes. I hear you. I tend to like scents that compliment my colognes because I also like to use expensive colognes. The pheros by themselves is not enough and neither is the cologne. I want my scent to be signature to me and only me. 😛 > > But TUTH can replace ammo. Ammo has none in it (which TUTH is pretty much entirely). Try 5mcgs of TUTH, with 25 mcgs of TAC, and a spray of IH (and/or maybe 1 spray of IO). See how that works for you. I think you might find it mimics Ammo pretty decently or maybe even work better for you. You can definitely control the smell aspect much easier that way. 🙂 And with that post you get rep’d. That is exactly what I am looking for EXACTLY. The clean clothes smell can very much accent an amazing cologne. Although your “flowery” statement worries me haha, I don’t want to smell like damn flowers! What type of scent are we looking at for TUTH, is it something light to compliment a nice cologne? ---
**Author:** ![Professor\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/dc4da7/32.png) [@Professor\_P](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Professor_P)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 11:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/18 "2011-12-19T23:35:33Z")
Lol! HAhaha… thanks. Here is the one: [AMMUNITION FF22 “World Edition”. :: Archive & Alternative Versions :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) [AMMUNITION Cologne for Men - TO GO! World Edition :: Archive & Alternative Versions :: Experimental Test Mixes :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) I would suggest the togo to see if you like it. It’s more like flower fresh. Not like girly flowery… if I remember correctly. It’s been so long. But yeah. I hear you. It went well with my cologne from what I remember. TUTH doesn’t have sent choices although I guess you can get anything in custom scents (probably even Ammo). [Men’s Fragrance Customization :: Custom Additions :: Androtics Direct](https://a314.com/) Definitely can run you a little more. But if you are going the Ammo “alternative route” (suggested above) I think regular TUTH should be fine. If you are worried about its scent I suggest you buy TUTH to-go first. It isn’t too expensive and you can get a sample of what it smells like. Tuth can be a little strong but dies down after a few minutes and when you put everything else over it it isn’t bad at all. I think it smells fine. Two sprays of cologne and I’ve never gotten a negative response. The worse I’ve ever got is… you smell good. 😛 _shrugs_ so who knows. I definitely like Shine for it’s “clean” smell. TAC also has a very clean smell to it. With two sprays of TUTH… by the time you drop the TAC and IO/IH over it you’ll probably be smelling mostly them and then you apply the cologne. A few minutes later it should all blend and you won’t even notice it. That’s usually my experience at least but maybe I’m so used to it by now. Who knows. 😛 Also… I might add that for some people A314b might work better than two sprays of TUTH at 2.5mcg/spray. Maybe go 1 spray A314b, one spray TUTH, and then the rest of them. Play around with it. You might even do two sprays of TUTH and one of A314b. Maybe then do both IH and IO. Or two of one of them. Or you whatever. Mix it up. It isn’t a precise science because everyone has different -none levels to begin with so -none products will effect them differently. But find your sweet spot and what you find most effective. But I’m definitely a big fan of A314, TAC, and TUTH when used correctly in conjunction to other molecules. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/19 "2011-12-19T23:44:33Z")
Sadly, F22 is off the menu just now - And there was no promise of it ever returning. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Veratus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/cdc98d/32.png) [@Veratus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Veratus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804/20 "2011-12-19T23:45:23Z")
I’ll trust you in this one lol. Just added a side order of 30ml 25mcg TAC FF21. I’d have to agree with IS, the best instant I’ve ever had. Pair the clean smell of IS with a 2:1 Bvlgari for men and that smell alone is enough to drive anyone wild! Hell, I can’t stop smelling myself I smell so damn good lol. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-back-into-dating-and-need-some-winning-combos/53804.md?page=2)