# Getting lots of sexual attention but I want a relationship: which mix to change? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 31, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411 "2008-12-31T17:50:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/21 "2008-12-31T21:13:51Z")
ya I guess you can say I learned over time … but ya the first couple months I wasn’t getting much out of them but now days its different. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/22 "2008-12-31T21:14:36Z")
> [@dss](#): > > because I feel like a man H … and I just want a relationship with one person not do a different one every night. it was fun at first to leave a club with two girls a night but now its ehhh just need something solid. > > for example all my friends or at least most of them have a bf or gf and tonight they have that one person but me hell I can make out with couple girls but it doesn’t mean anything. To get a good quality, snuggly wuggly real-live-serious girlfriend use A314. Use that and actually reach out and approach someone who you think you might like in that role. Never wait for someone to approach you with A314, you’re DHVing too much for that to easily happen. But when you reach out, rejection is low, almost non-existent, with this one. They’ll probably like you back, and in a snuggle by the fire kind of way instead of what you’ve been getting. You can also use social mones to lighten it up, in case you don’t want to attract someone _too_ intense. MX252 also worked wonders right in Austin. That’s where it was first tested by our own people. I actually got a phone call from a _target_ of that one! One of my few target calls, so it really stuck with me. Reported mega charisma w/everyone, and more serious, “instant girlfriend” type attention from the more “untouchable” pink kind. I don’t have access to the master grimoire right now 😛, but I’m pretty sure it was P74, rone, and P90 heavy. The more rone, usually the higher the age you attract (or daddy lovers). It’s sort of plays the role of an “older man” [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) in most mixes, unless something else is used to counteract that. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/23 "2008-12-31T21:22:59Z")
> [@dss](#): > > ya I guess you can say I learned over time … but ya the first couple months I wasn’t getting much out of them but now days its different. You have a very balanced, very logical sort of mix, so I guess it was like learning painting for you? You stopped putting all of the colors together at once, and used just the right ones in just the right way to actually make a picture instead of a mess. 😉 Can you remember what kind of mixes you were using _right before_ you came upon one that worked for you? ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/24 "2008-12-31T21:27:12Z")
ya before I used IH/IO over CTTM2 and I wasn’t using any IG or IFM and I went from 3 to 4 sprays on IFM - IG - CTTM2 and stick to 3 for AMMO and lowerd IS from 6 to 4 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2009, 1:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/25 "2009-01-01T01:58:36Z")
> [@dss](#): > > ya before I used IH/IO over CTTM2 and I wasn’t using any IG or IFM and I went from 3 to 4 sprays on IFM - IG - CTTM2 and stick to 3 for AMMO and lowerd IS from 6 to 4 Thank you. Wow, that’s all all very interesting. First, you’d think CTTM would give somewhat similar results as IO+IH. CTTM is basically a crude version of IO + IH combined, at a little lesser dosage per spray, and without refining pheromones. Simpler is often more attention getting, but the refinements in IO + IH shouldn’t really make them any less sexual when combined than CTTM. You’d figure you’d get similar results, or even slightly better with IO+IH. Second, adding Gentleman is also really interesting. Maybe you needed a little bit of an “older edge” to really be taken seriously? Third, it’s especially interesting that lowering the Shine helped. We were thinking of increasing the base dosage of that one this week, so this really made my ears perk up. We want to make the products as powerful as possible so you can reach the target dose quickly in just a couple of sprays, but that’s a good reminder to keep increases conservative to prevent people from ODing easily. Sometimes too much of a good thing can definitely be a not so good thing! ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/26 "2009-01-02T15:15:30Z")
ya so thats what I learned so far …but people been saying that I come cross as stuck up ? it surprises me because I had no idea. (this is without pheromones) ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/27 "2009-01-02T15:20:05Z")
> [@dss](#): > > ya so thats what I learned so far …but people been saying that I come cross as stuck up ? it surprises me because I had no idea. (this is without pheromones) You mean that they just told you come across as stuck up when not wearing pheromones? The pheromones made you less stuck up seeming, more approachable? Or the opposite? ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/28 "2009-01-02T15:32:40Z")
well I don’t think they made a difference I guess I come cross as stuck up and that might be the reason its hard for people to approach me … I didn’t even relies I was giving that vibe or w/e it is. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/29 "2009-01-02T17:29:40Z")
> [@dss](#): > > well I don’t think they made a difference I guess I come cross as stuck up and that might be the reason its hard for people to approach me … I didn’t even relies I was giving that vibe or w/e it is. Well, stuck up is another way to say high value (but perhaps a bit aloof to others), so it’s at least _half_ good. 🙂 Maybe people are only telling you recently due to the IH or CTTM. You tend to hear a lot of truth with those. At least what people view as their own personal truths. “Truth” is very subjective and isn’t necessarily fact, so I wouldn’t wig out about it. Just wondering, did you grow up in Austin? There’s a lot of smart people there, but I remember it being so friendly. A little “over the top” friendly compared to many parts of the country. Maybe if you don’t have that “hey y’all” type of Texas friendliness to you yet, that’s the issue right there. I’m VERRRY friendly and I might’ve come across as stuck up in Austin, too! Who knows? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/30 "2009-01-02T17:32:07Z")
nope I use to live in Canada …and moved to Austin about 9 years ago. I got find something or do something so I don’t come cross as stuck up…because that not really me. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/31 "2009-01-02T17:50:09Z")
> [@dss](#): > > nope I use to live in Canada …and moved to Austin about 9 years ago. Huh… Canada’s pretty friendly. > [@](#): > > I got find something or do something so I don’t come cross as stuck up…because that not really me. Are you shy? A lot of shy people come across as stuck up or even nasty people haters, and that’s usually the opposite of what they are. They usually want to talk to people, but can’t because they don’t value themselves enough. Even if you aren’t shy, it’s a similar problem. It’s usually remedied by reminding yourself to be a little more forward and friendly. Smiling more, even for no reason at all. Making eye contact. (just force yourself to do it until it becomes a habit) Sharing more of yourself, but being _assertive_ about it. NOT waiting until someone asks, but actively saying “hey” to people. Texans are very assertive. Very friendly. They get up in your business, so I admit, that’s a big shoe to fill. But it’s a fun shoe! Pheromonally, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Instant Shine would definitely help. No one could easily view you as stuck up with those. Pub wise, I’d recommend Shiner bock. 🙂 I tested it for psychological affect, just like I would a pheromone… and that’s an usually friendly beer! ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/32 "2009-01-02T17:52:17Z")
People have often think I’s stuck up until they get to know me. If you’re reserved, even shy, some mistakenly think you’re holding back because you think you’re better. A thoughtful intelligent face is interpreted as “wheels spinning and thinking critical thoughts.” Even though you might be thinking about work or the nice booty on the woman to the left. I found smiling and making petty small talk pretty much kills that perception. However, not wanting to make small talk doesn’t mean you believe you’re low value. I’m not very verbal or cheerful–I’m an artist–but have learned to fake it and to good effect. The problem is you gotta make an effort to do these things if they don’t come naturally. It’s basically about developing acting skills to project a desirable persona, no matter what you feel inside. Very useful life skill. Gets you lots of promotions and GFs. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/33 "2009-01-02T17:57:10Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > People have often think I’s stuck up until they get to know me. If you’re reserved, even shy, some mistakenly think you’re holding back because you think you’re better. A thoughtful intelligent face is interpreted as “wheels spinning and thinking critical thoughts.” Even though you might be thinking about work or the nice booty on the woman to the left. I found smiling and making small petty talk pretty much kills that perception. Yeah, you know, you reminded me of something here. A lot of people get really mean looking when they think. So if they think a lot, that can send out the wrong signal _a lot_. But there’s these other people who get sort of dreamy looking when they think. They have almost a smirk on, and their goes go up a little and to the left or right. They always look like they’re having some sort of fantasy, but it could equally be about a childhood biking experience or a hottie. It’s a sort of all purpose happy fantasy look. Maybe for serious thinkers, it’d be good to practice a different thinking face. Work one out in the mirror based on the dreamy or whimsical thinking face some have, and then force yourself to use it over the next few days ever time you go into thought. Tilt the head a bit, smile a bit, and look up more. Make it a habit and it might just solve a lot of problems. ---
**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/34 "2009-01-02T18:19:33Z")
I am shy and I do think lot if I am accepted or not. ---
**Author:** ![jankren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jankren](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jankren)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411/35 "2009-01-03T01:00:11Z")
Human beings are never satisfied. LOL > [@dss](#): > > ill try going on a date with out the AMMO and just IS and CTTM2 mix … ill see how that goes but man that makes me mad its like I am a object of pleasure. Yeah, if you were a woman you would probably have a very low reputation among the men by now if you know what I mean. LOL [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-lots-of-sexual-attention-but-i-want-a-relationship-which-mix-to-change/24411.md?page=1)