# Getting past "I'm waiting for marrage" **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 27, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242 "2012-07-27T12:04:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PheroNoob123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronoob123/32/2103_2.png) [@PheroNoob123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroNoob123)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/1 "2012-07-27T12:04:07Z")
Hey guys, So I’ve been dating this girl for almost a month now, and we had planned on going camping this weekend. She dropped the “I’m saving sex for marrage” bomb on me through text while I was at work. Caught me off guard as we’ve been making out and i’ve had my hands in her pants/shirt on a few occasions. I smoothed things over and we’re still going camping, but I need some phero help here! I’ve been wearing one spray of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for our dates, and I used one spray of TUTH on a date with her, with success. Thoughts for what I should wear this weekend? I want to keep Ammo as my base since she’s used to it. I’m leaving in a few hours, so any quick help you could give me would be great! Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/2 "2012-07-27T12:24:53Z")
Are you being honest with her about trying to get her to change her mind? Maybe try wearing some IH, and talk to her about why she waited until now to tell you. Especially over text at work. That’s shady. ---
**Author:** ![profchaos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/profchaos/32/510_2.png) [@profchaos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/profchaos)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/3 "2012-07-27T12:29:55Z")
maybe she is testing you to see if your only there for sex? if she told you that and your reaction was to leave and stop seeing here.. She wants to know that you would be there and not run at the first “complications” just a guess ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 2:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/4 "2012-07-27T14:12:50Z")
> [@profchaos](#): > > maybe she is testing you to see if your only there for sex? if she told you that and your reaction was to leave and stop seeing here.. > She wants to know that you would be there and not run at the first “complications” > > just a guess I’m totally agreeing with this 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mungo21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@mungo21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mungo21)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/5 "2012-07-27T14:23:08Z")
women love to play games… sounds like you will have to work hard to get her to fuck you… google to October man sequence 🙂.. but be warned… ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 2:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/6 "2012-07-27T14:39:47Z")
> [@mungo21](#): > > women love to play games… sounds like you will have to work hard to get her to fuck you… > > google to October man sequence 🙂.. but be warned… 99.9% of the crap out there proclaiming to be based on the “February Man” sequence by Milton Ericson is either incomplete or wrong. There has only been one instance I have read (the original OctoMan sequence based on Ericsonian hypnosis) where it was used properly and that has now been so adulterated its worthless. ---
**Author:** ![mungo21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@mungo21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mungo21)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/7 "2012-07-27T15:05:40Z")
“February Man” is book of hypnosis session by Milton. the problem with any type of " Milton hypnosis " is you need to be on rapport with you client. and have an understanding of hypnosis , tone, leading and pacing. however it is still worth a shot, as it is all part of the learning process, there is also the unconsciousness hello.. google that one.. ---
**Author:** ![PheroNoob123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronoob123/32/2103_2.png) [@PheroNoob123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroNoob123)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/8 "2012-07-27T15:29:52Z")
A test… That was my thought as well. So no suggestions for 'mones? I’m leaving in like 20 minutes! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/9 "2012-07-27T15:35:25Z")
I’d second IH in order to help closeness/your integrity and steer it with IS to keep it in a happy place. But, pheros in a tent - hell yes!! Do get some TUTH on before you zip up for the night, perfect exposure opportunity! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/10 "2012-07-27T15:56:02Z")
Every statement a women makes is not about testing you for something. Perhaps this is something she decided on well before she knew him. Leave it to men to think everything is about them LOL If she is serious in what she is saying then no pheromone will ever change her mind. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) influence behaviors and emotions but they dont totally change them. Even in hypnosis people will not do anything they really do not want to do. All that quacking like a duck shit is a show. You can influence her to rethink her position that way but you cant plant a seed in soil thats not conducive to its growth. Pheromonally I would use TUTH and IH along with some P83. If she is on the wire about waiting till she is married this may push her over the edge in your favor but not if she is set in her decision to wait. Tisha. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/11 "2012-07-28T16:34:12Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Every statement a women makes is not about testing you for something. Perhaps this is something she decided on well before she knew him. Leave it to men to think everything is about them LOL > > If she is serious in what she is saying then no pheromone will ever change her mind. Pheromones influence behaviors and emotions but they dont totally change them. > > Even in hypnosis people will not do anything they really do not want to do. All that quacking like a duck shit is a show. You can influence her to rethink her position that way but you cant plant a seed in soil thats not conducive to its growth. > > Pheromonally I would use TUTH and IH along with some P83. If she is on the wire about waiting till she is married this may push her over the edge in your favor but not if she is set in her decision to wait. > > Tisha. So you don’t think mones are brain-washing molecules ? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Unique](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unique/32/935_2.png) [@Unique](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Unique)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/12 "2012-07-28T22:59:14Z")
While what she is saying may be true, I really doubt it, the no sex until marriage is used far more as a test than an actual value Best thing to do in this situation is to act like you don’t need it then tease the absolute shit out of her by making out, kissing her neck etc I’ve actually found most ladies once up to a certain level of ‘turned on’ are actually more impulsive than myself ---
**Author:** ![PheroNoob123](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheronoob123/32/2103_2.png) [@PheroNoob123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroNoob123)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/13 "2012-07-31T15:16:06Z")
> [@Unique](#): > > While what she is saying may be true, I really doubt it, the no sex until marriage is used far more as a test than an actual value > > Best thing to do in this situation is to act like you don’t need it then tease the absolute shit out of her by making out, kissing her neck etc > > I’ve actually found most ladies once up to a certain level of ‘turned on’ are actually more impulsive than myself So no luck for me this weekend. I had my hand in her pants, but I stopped to readjust my wrist and she put the brakes on. Also, TUTH is like a lightswitch for intimacy in a tent. I never did try the [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), what should I expect from it when I do? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2012, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/14 "2012-07-31T15:28:17Z")
You should pull away from her telling her no we shouldn’t be doing this, all the while escalating. Follow the popcorn trick 😉 ---
**Author:** ![mungo21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@mungo21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mungo21)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/15 "2012-08-01T00:26:54Z")
an old trick is, I don’t think we should see each other any more, and I don’t think see should befriends either .. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 9:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/16 "2012-08-01T09:28:20Z")
The very best method I’ve ever seen used is called the Taze-Her. It might get the girl but it will for sure get you 20 ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 9:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/17 "2012-08-01T09:47:21Z")
Ask her if she’s a virgin.. Most likely she is if she made a comment like that (some women have already had sex and may still make a comment like that). If she says she’s a virgin you should say I respect women who are not easy. if she says doesn’t matter if I’m a virgin or not, tell her a comment like she made only makes sense coming from a virgin. Bottom line if she’s really a virgin it will show through and if she just wants to hold back from you while she’s f\*cked around with other guys this will make her realize she’s not innocent anymore and increase the chances of her realizing she’s not holier than thou. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/18 "2012-08-01T11:32:10Z")
Most likely if she says she is “saving it for marriage” that means she still has “it”. If she said something like, I dont sleep around or I am not ready to have sex with you until we are together longer then there is a possiblity she is testing you. “Saving” implies there is something there to save. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![KIMBA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@KIMBA](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KIMBA)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/19 "2012-08-01T17:38:50Z")
It could be a shit test. She could really mean it. Its two ends of the spectrum. One way means you will not be intimate, the other means not right now. This is what I propose as a solution, a better approach. If you were Hugh Jackman and came riding in on a unicorn and romanced her and vowed to marry her would she have slept with you? If you had a day/evening that was the most adventerous she had ever had, would she say no? If you were Fabio and romanced her for a weekend would she say no? I think she would have went further if the moment was right. You may have been close, but something had her still thinking logically. When you are doing something exciting and dangerous, in the moment of the rush you worry not about the negatives. Good luck bud. ---
**Author:** ![Pheraoh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pheraoh/32/857_2.png) [@Pheraoh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pheraoh)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242/20 "2012-08-01T21:44:46Z")
Move along and find someone that doesn’t wish to save it. Unless you want to be happily married so soon. It’s your penis vs a belief system in defiance of your penis. Leave her intact for some other poor bastard instead of being the corrupting bastard that will eventually dump her afterwards. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-past-im-waiting-for-marrage/56242.md?page=2)