# Getting the first date **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 19, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145 "2010-07-19T17:33:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/1 "2010-07-19T17:33:42Z")
The day before yesterday I was having car trouble… So I was late for work and irate. In the door, I was very direct and walked with a purpose. When the cute hostess greeted me, I stated “I hate car trouble” and clocked in. Well, when I walked into the office so I could get my till money the manager at the time said I could go, “We have it covered.” So I wanted to check my schedule for tomorrow. The alpha air must have sparked her interest, she was messing with her hair like crazy while I ignored her to inspect the schedule. Some background: I have been talking this girl up and found out how we are pretty similar. For example, we both love animals. When the other hostess was trying to get in a word she negged her about her math skills. I think it was some jealousy coming out, she was trying to disqualify the other girl to me. I teased hostess two, “Oh, how cute! Your nose wiggles when you talk, do it again!” _grin_ She was so flustered that she asked me, “How about yours? Does your nose talk when you move?!” I laughed for a good fifteen minutes in my station over THAT one. LOL! So I have induced a good bit of infatuation towards me by hostess two. My target is hostess one though. I’ve gotten at least three solid IOI’s from her and I thought last night would be my time to really grab her attention and maybe ask her out. But I wanted to wait for another perfect moment like the night before (which I blew) after getting some IOI’s. It didn’t happen. At first I went in without any [pheromones](https://a314.com/) on like the day before. Nothing. So I went out to the car for one spray IS(x2) and one spray IO to my shirt then back into work… Nothing. Damn. So I decided to go back out and spray some IJ on. Still nothing. At the end of the night both hostesses blew me off without saying goodnight like usual. _sigh_ Now if I cold-call this girl without IOI’s, I’m sure she’s going to consider it a good-guy approach and flake me. So what the hell should I do? I hate blowing my chances before I get anywhere with a girl that - with personality, looks and intelligence - is easily a 10. I know she’s interested. I wish there was more time to do this with, but hostess one is leaving back to college soon. Any suggestions!?! Every last bit of feedback would be so appreciated, it’s not even funny!! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/2 "2010-07-19T18:05:05Z")
What pheromones do you have? And if the first one is already interested you should be in. The only thing I can think of is they think you might be playing both of them that’s why the negative reactions on both sides. How old are you? How old are they? What kind of personality does she have? Is she shy, or is she more forward? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/3 "2010-07-19T18:35:09Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > What pheromones do you have? > > And if the first one is already interested you should be in. The only thing I can think of is they think you might be playing both of them that’s why the negative reactions on both sides. How old are you? How old are they? What kind of personality does she have? Is she shy, or is she more forward? Oh shit. I didn’t think flirting without actual interest would make it seem like I was playing both… And I guess I have been flirting more with the second hostess because it’s easier (not being interested has given me an edge I shouldn’t have been using, damn.) I’m twenty-seven. The first hostess is in college, I think she’s 20. The second one is still in high school. The first hostess isn’t shy at all. She’s very forward. I have stared into her eyes, and her right back, in most of our conversations. I am really considering shaving my mustache off. When I asked the first hostess’s opinion on whether I should get rid of it because it’s itchy, she told me she thinks they are creepy. So. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/4 "2010-07-19T19:41:47Z")
Yeah for younger girls they might not be used to it. Plus they act “mad” at you to see if you’ll chase after them or not. It’s the stupid games young girls play to get you to validate your interest for them. Unfortunately there is no way around it. You’re gonna have to give up on one for now and go for the other. I’ve worked in restaurants before and it’s like that unfortunately with younger girls. Have a fun summer fling before she leaves, keep it casual cause she’s going away after this summer is over. Recommended mix. IG x2 + IS2x x2 + IH2x x2+ TUTH x1. If you don’t have the IG which it doesn’t look it Then add IO one shot in place of IG. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/5 "2010-07-20T06:23:30Z")
So I shaved my mustache off. It’s probably going to be Saturday before I see my target again. I seen the second hostess today. She walked into work (she had today off) and noticed me without my facial hair. If I remember right, she liked it and told me I should keep it. She seemed angry when she left, and didn’t respond when I told her, “Take care!” as she headed out the door. She ignored me. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/6 "2010-07-20T06:32:01Z")
This is the one that’s leaving for college? ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/7 "2010-07-20T06:45:24Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > This is the one that’s leaving for college? No, the hostess leaving for college is my target (that’s such a callous term when describing the person I want to pursue a relationship with!) The one that ignored me today is the younger girl. I like her, but I am far more attracted to the other one. Go figure I would be going for the girl that is leaving. I really don’t see any way to salvage a friendship out of this with the other girl if everything works out with me and my target. If you’re right, she will probably wind up hating me for not chasing her and choosing the other girl. I never knew casual flirting was such a powerful tool. What gives? I didn’t have near the attention I do when I wasn’t in this kind of mindset. I flirted, and didn’t get anywhere with it. Now I may have actually flamed things into an uncomfortable situation. I don’t know why but it helps to have an outside view of things. Thanks P51. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 6:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/8 "2010-07-20T06:55:18Z")
Younger girls want the attention and there’s always a non-verbal catfight going on with women. Like us, they don’t want to lose. Now unless you did something to her work related that pissed you off, and from working in a restaurant back then myself, it could only be that. Good luck with that though, experience tells me that other girl will come around to it once the other girl leaves, you just have to do it slowly and not so noticeable she thinks you’re jumping on her after that other girl left. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/9 "2010-07-20T16:43:42Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Younger girls want the attention and there’s always a non-verbal catfight going on with women. Like us, they don’t want to lose. Now unless you did something to her work related that pissed you off, and from working in a restaurant back then myself, it could only be that. > > Good luck with that though, experience tells me that other girl will come around to it once the other girl leaves, you just have to do it slowly and not so noticeable she thinks you’re jumping on her after that other girl left. It’s so funny… Girls make themselves out to be above fighting, and always give guys shit about their confrontations and letting testosterone control us. We don’t, or at least I don’t. I’m a calculating son of a bitch. I don’t act until I’ve evaluated things. I don’t speak until I know exactly what to say. I stand my ground yes, aggressively too, but that’s a passive front. Yes, I can handle myself, but I hate fighting. I didn’t think I was having that much of an effect on the hostesses - because they (as girls) hide it so effing well. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/10 "2010-07-20T17:07:54Z")
> [@Wolfishgrin](#): > > …Go figure I would be going for the girl that is leaving… We always want what we can’t have.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfishgrin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfishgrin/32/1082_2.png) [@Wolfishgrin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfishgrin)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-the-first-date/40145/11 "2010-07-21T21:12:21Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > We always want what we can’t have.🙄 I won’t label her off as something I can’t have yet… But she is leaving. So I get what you’re saying. The best way to think about this is it’s for developing my game - getting better is self improvement. Improving myself is never a bad thing. It’s a good thing ™ - lol!