# Getting them to initiate - or, How about that CTTM?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 13, 2006, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-them-to-initiate-or-how-about-that-cttm/352 "2006-05-13T06:42:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![SwingerMD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SwingerMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SwingerMD)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2006, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/getting-them-to-initiate-or-how-about-that-cttm/352/10 "2006-06-04T07:08:53Z")

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I have CTT2. Seems to work well once you get the conversation started.

I agree with Josef that the most effective and potent conversation starter is a mix of eyes and smiles.

Now, with that in mind I do think that a couple of the experimones have a lot of potential as conversation initiators. They are (in my opinion) p74, p75 and p78. For me it seems that all the women pratically appear out of nowhere with I have p75 and p78 (to a slightly lesser extent).

-SwingerMD

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