# girl does not respond to mones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 4, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063 "2010-11-04T02:20:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![boxer15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@boxer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boxer15)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/1 "2010-11-04T02:20:05Z")
I have had this girl in my college class for 2 years now. Whenever I talk to her she acts like normal. I use ammox2 sprays, IS x1 spray, 2 drops of A314. She is sort of shy as she really only talks to her friends. I had known her before using mones for the first time. Is she acting like normal because she already had a first impression of me without the mones? Should I increase the amount of ammo and IS, or throw in a spray of IO. I was thinking about getting some instant jerk and trying that out. ---
**Author:** ![samuraitea](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/samuraitea/32/1998_2.png) [@samuraitea](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/samuraitea)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/2 "2010-11-04T02:40:59Z")
You may be ghosting her…Too much alpha for shy girl, your signature is off in her view, maybe IG,IS,IO? Get her to open up to you, since she is shy, physical sexiness isn’t necessarily the first thing she is looking for, but more of a man who can make her laugh, cuddle. This is how my girl is/was…But I have been testing with her too. You need to be congruent to whatever you are going for. If you want to try something else out like a mention, make her feel more comfortable be her around you. ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/3 "2010-11-04T03:00:42Z")
I have had AWESOME results using just 4 sprays of 1x ammo and letting it sit for about 20-30 minutes before encountering females… Like the women i have had encounters with went from 6-7s to 9-10s since i been shooting 4 sprays on the front and back of my neck, try that, but let it sit for about 30 minutes before class.. Also Samuraitea may have a point, becuase if your girl is indeed shy this may not work… Most of the girls i attracted were frisky and outgoing to begin with… however its worth a try my friend ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/4 "2010-11-04T03:13:52Z")
Try cutting out the A314. Give ammo a shot with some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). Instant Jerk is not the solution here, you don’t want to come off more intimidating to her lol. Hell try just Instant Shine alone. I bet that does wonders for a girl like her. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/5 "2010-11-04T03:32:21Z")
Well a few questions. 1.) How often do you see her (every day, twice a week etc) 2.) How long have you been wearing mones around her? (A few days, couple of weeks, a month etc.) 3.) How do YOU act when you’re around her? Do you start conversation? (Act flirty, sit and wait to see if the mones cause her to make the first move etc.) The second two are the most important. Duration and frequency of exposure matters most with people that already know you and already have formed their own impressions of you. It takes more time and effort for that impression to change. Secondly, and I’m not saying that these are your expectations, but a lot of people start trying mones thinking it’s some sort of mind control device. It’s not, mones occur in nature and all they are in the end is a signal we throw out that tells others information about us…period. Now synthetic mones are in larger doses than what we naturally produce so the signal is much stronger and more noticeable but it’s still just a subconscious message. A314 is a very strong “James Bond” type of Alpha Male signal while [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is a general sexy and fit man signal. The two go great together but all the exposure is going to do is give her the impression that you are a certain type of man…but, if your behaviors don’t back up that signal it’s like trying to look like a classy sophisticated gentleman wearing an expensive italian suit…while picking your nose with one hand and your butt with the other. So basically you have this girl, and since you’ve known her a while she has a certain impression of you. OK so you start wearing the mones, she gets an impression that there seems to be something different about you. She will given that she’s shy and that the vibe she’s getting doesn’t seem like the “you” that she’s accustomed to…keep this to herself for now. Now you start wearing the mones and continue your behavior the way it was before the mones and she will discount the feeling as “just her imagination” and reclassify you in the same little box she had you in before. So you need to open and open in a very bold and confident manner. Start up a convo, she’s shy but be relaxed and mmmmmmaybe a little cocky. Basically WEAR the signal. Show her that the impression the mones are giving is in fact a valid impression that something about you has changed, that you’re more confident, dominant, alpha and sexier than she’d thought all this time. Now, because I’ve run into this question before, you may be asking yourself “If I have to change the way I act, why bother with the mones?” Well I don’t look at it as HAVING to change, but GETTING to change. Look at it like this, say a shy beta type of guy decides he wants to turn things around and start being more alpha. A lot of times people will be uncomfortable with changes in behavior, they compartmentalize others into little boxes and they resist changes, especially changes that challenge their status. So when you start trying to act more confident and assertive they resist and try to discourage your attempts by accusing you of being a try hard, or faking, etc. That’s change with no mones. Wear the mones and change nothing and they get an impression of something different, but disregard in short order when nothing about you other than this “vibe” they feel is different. But the two together…They may not like it at first but when the vibe they get and the behavior you show all run congruent the change is much MUCH more easilly accepted and they don’t think of you as TRYING to be anything…you just changed and this is who you are now. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/6 "2010-11-04T03:36:19Z")
if you have known her for two years, she already has MUCH pre-conceived notion about you. You need to ACT and TALK different too, in addition to wearing mones. Just imply to her or her friends that you have been working out and focusing on Acing all your classes lately, and you will for MANLY and confident about yourself. That should expedite mones sneaking in and lighting up her limbic system 😉 ---
**Author:** ![boxer15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@boxer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boxer15)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/7 "2010-11-04T03:52:01Z")
to answer the 3 questions of radman513: 1. see her everyday. she sits exactlye across from though. I sit on the last row and she sits in the first. 2. counting last year of college about 8 months total. 3. I start the conversation and she talks without hesitation ( even complains to me about things idk why ) but I have trouble keeping the conversation flowing. I only talked to her twice so far and that was when we were heading the same direction for class. She is always surrounded by her friends so I get nervous to aprroach her durring class. What do you guys think about cctm2? ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/8 "2010-11-04T03:53:30Z")
I like spaceland it gets me so happy, almost high, i would recommend that instead of CTTM2 ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/9 "2010-11-04T03:57:59Z")
> [@Evilcalyptic](#): > > I like spaceland it gets me so happy, almost high, i would recommend that instead of CTTM2 Spaceland has been out of stock for a long time now…but CTTM2 is one of the products I’ve seen the most blatant hits from. ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/10 "2010-11-04T04:03:54Z")
REALLY? damn i have some i would be willing to sell for a small small price ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/11 "2010-11-04T04:13:01Z")
> [@Evilcalyptic](#): > > REALLY? damn i have some i would be willing to sell for a small small price I still have a full 5ml bottle, hehe. I hear it is equivalent to feeling tipsy after a few shots. Anyways, too much anol would make you appear WEAK or BETA, so no, dont wear it, unless you have 5 shots of ammo or A314 on with it (hopefully not gayish) ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/12 "2010-11-04T04:21:50Z")
keep in mind, she may just not react to mones or she may not regard you with much consideration. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) _can_ alter behavior, it doesn’t mean they work on everyone with the same effect. But she may be attributing the effects, if any, to something/one else or she could just not care. Pheromones alter people’s behavior on the subconscious level only (unless they are looking for a change). 95% of any interaction is going to be on you, the mones might just get you a 5% head start, especially if you don’t have any sort of repertoire with her. If you’re just an acquaintance, that’s all the respect or regard you’ll get out of her. ---
**Author:** ![boxer15](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@boxer15](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boxer15)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/13 "2010-11-04T04:28:08Z")
So, then I should just give up on her, right? ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/14 "2010-11-04T04:32:22Z")
> [@boxer15](#): > > So, then I should just give up on her, right? you haven’t even tried much, so what are you talking about? Do what I told you earlier and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![hillke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7bcc69/32.png) [@hillke](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hillke)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/15 "2010-11-04T04:39:11Z")
> [@boxer15](#): > > So, then I should just give up on her, right? lol dude, the point was to become _more_ than just an acquaintance 😛 not just give up outright. However, getting hung up on one person you may miss out on other opportunities. It all matters on what you feel for her. I know I used to get hung up on one girl while I tried to break down barriers but I have found that trying to force a connection just wastes time and can turn out ugly. There are people out there who you can just “click” with, they are pretty rare usually, but totally worth it. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 9:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/16 "2010-11-04T09:53:44Z")
Hillke makes a excellent point. While pheromones can increase attraction and attention they do not create something that is not there. They will not effect every signal person. There could be many reasons. Visual attraction, compatibility, sexual preference, current relationship status etc etc. Pheromone on there own can not overcome the other aspects of attraction. They give you a edge with those who do have some interest that they have not acted on though. I would not move on just yet though. I would work with just two products right now. Dont over signal. Its like 10 people talking all at once, it actually just makes them not listen to any of them. Use a little bit of AMMO for a sexy confident interesting vibe and a lot of IO (3 to 4) sprays to increase comfort and interaction. Then take a deep breath and start talking. The IO should help in this area. She has already been nice to you and responded when you talk to her so she is not totally uninterested in you. I know its hard not to be nervous but the only way to concur fear is head on. The more you interact with her the easier it will get and then she may start to pay attention to the signals the pheromones are sending her. > [@](#): > > too much [anol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would make you appear WEAK or BETA, so no, dont wear it, unless you have 5 shots of [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) or [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) on with it (hopefully not gayish) Where did you get this ideal from ? It doesnt indicate Beta or Gay in the least. Anol creates a aura of health and viltality. It gives a friendly approachable vibe that can help increase attraction and romantic feelings. While its less intimidating then heavy masculine pheromones and can help decrease the intimidation some other molecules produce it in no way gives a weak vibe. Anol is what you go to when your trying to break the ice and increase interaction. You have to do that before your can create attraction. In my opinion its more effective and important then both the mens and females sexual pheromones. Do not under estimate the power of the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) here. They can cause a sexual response. Masculine or sexual pheromones just indicate something about you that may or may not be attractive to some people. Social pheromones draw them in, make them comfortable and interested so that your masculine vibe can sneak in there and tickle there fancy. Sticking to all heavy intimidating masculine mones is one of the major mistakes men make using pheromones. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/17 "2010-11-04T13:50:21Z")
> [@boxer15](#): > > So, then I should just give up on her, right? Yes and no. Yes in as much as you need to stop TRYING and should just let go of outcome expectations. Focus more on yourself than her and work on developing attractive qualities so that the game you throw becomes natural and won’t feel forced or fake. No in that I don’t suggest you disqualify her or stop associating with her. Simply continue talking to her same as usual but as you change and become more congruent with your signal she’ll see this and attraction should grow on it’s own. Consider your mix. A314 is heavy rone light none and Ammo is equal parts rone and none. Rone=Maturity which in prehistoric and tribal pasts equated with wisdom, maturity and social status. None=Youth, physical and sexual fitness, a confident and assertive personality. You also have a small dose of Anol there which is friendly and social. So you have the signal of a very sexy and attractive man of status and influence. Figure out what you can do in your day to day life that is congruent with that, while at the same time maintaining a friendly and approachable personality. As was said, some women if they lack confidence can be intimidated by the A314 signal regardless of how attractive it may be to them. Same way that a guy can feel incredible attraction for a playboy centerfold but would never actually approach her out of a preconceived certainty of rejection. “She’s so hot she’d never go out with a guy like me.” So the key is to be high status, and display those qualities that are generically considered attractive (leader of men, protector of loved ones, preselection etc) but then to give her hope in the sense of also focusing on commonality and compatibility Commonality=little things that you have in common that allow you to have enjoyable conversation (same favorite bands, favorite shows movies etc) Compatibility= goes a little deeper, these are common values, life goals and worldviews that can help to avoid serious relationship hurdles down the line. (apro choice atheist and a pro life, devoutly religious person will run into more serious troubles in a relationship than somebody that likes heavy metal but dates a person that likes dance music) Focus on those area’s where you have both commonalities and compatibility AFTER you start seeing IOI’s and sense a growing attraction in her. Again if the A314 makes her think you may be out of her league this should help her to consider that you and her might be good together and increase her comfort and confidence. ---
**Author:** ![GorMas2020](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gormas2020/32/197_2.png) [@GorMas2020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GorMas2020)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/girl-does-not-respond-to-mones/43063/18 "2010-11-04T16:37:19Z")
> [@RADMAN513](#): > > Now, because I’ve run into this question before, you may be asking yourself > “If I have to change the way I act, why bother with the mones?” > Well I don’t look at it as HAVING to change, but GETTING to change. good post