# Giving Mones a \[Second\] Shot **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [October 17, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/giving-mones-a-second-shot/52876 "2011-10-17T20:55:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ucfk90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ucfk90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ucfk90)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/giving-mones-a-second-shot/52876/1 "2011-10-17T20:55:15Z")
Hi guys, I’m a 21 year old college student at UCF who has tried [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) once before about a year ago. I was never involved in any support discussions, and didn’t research mones nearly as much as I probably should have prior to my spur of the moment purchase, so I’m fairly certain I didn’t use them properly. I saw a product at wal-mart the other day which stated it contained pheromones and after thinking about it, it brought me back here. I searched through the available products to see that the A314 I was always interested in purchasing is now available in a more cost-friendly spray. Being 21 and in college, money is a concern of course. I believe that I work hard for the little that I have, so it is nice to be able to use the product for a lower cost to ensure it is something I am interested in. The vast amount of information available here shocks me. I hope to learn a lot, and see results that I may not have gotten my first time around. I do have a couple of questions I figured I would ask here since everyone seems so helpful: 1. If I do purchase the A314, I’m aware of the oil / alcohol base difference between the spray and the dropper. Has anyone that has used both noticed differences between the effects of the two? 2. I often feel that I am down and out, kind of uninterested in things and not really concerned. Often I am irritable when tired, and just in a bad mood for not much of a reason at all. I try to prevent this when I can, but sometimes it still shows. Part of me believes this could be a medical issue (I haven’t looked into that), but another part of me believes something like pheromones could help. I’ve found that typically when I drink, or take energy supplements (such as caffeine & workout drinks), I have a much better attitude and mind-set, I also get along with people much easier. Is there any kind of product sold here that could be recommended to me for self effects to help aid this issue? Thanks for your time, Michael ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/giving-mones-a-second-shot/52876/2 "2011-10-17T21:05:20Z")
Hi Michael - Welcome to Pherotalk. 🙂 Good to see you are giving pheros another go with the appropriate research. It really does pay dividends. 🙂 Have you read this thread? It gives all the basic info on choosing and using pheros effectively: > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an… As you state an interest in A314, have you a clear idea of how you want to use it and if you can be congruent with its significant status signature? A314 is not really a beginners phero and it may be that the likes of IG might be more suitable for someone your age? As for your questions, yes I’ve used them all and I will say that IMO, the oil is way ahead of the spray in a number of ways. The main ones are subtlety and longevity. A dose of A314 oil will see you through the whole day (esp if applied over lotion) whilst the spray will give-up in around six hours, although the effects are a bit more present initially. It also takes a while to adjust to the A314 oil but the effects on my status and standing at work are still changing and improving well over a year down the line. Also, for long term use oil does work out as far more cost effective. At a fairly typical dose of 2-3 drops per day, a bottle will last several months, whilst the spray lasts for 40 shots and thats it. As for your interest in self effects, yes there are a number of pheros that can help boost confidence and help your feelings and attitudes. All the none-based pheros will give a healthy confidence boost, mild with Ammo, rising to strong but with potentially negative aspects with IJ. A314 oil has remarkable and long lasting self effects and yes, [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) can give you a good mood lift. However I would advise against becoming reliant on it as we often see someone come along singing its praises but after a few months finds their system has got used to it and the effects diminish. If you have the slightest concern there may be a medical issue, you should get that checked as there are far better long term effective treatments and management methods. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/giving-mones-a-second-shot/52876/3 "2011-10-17T21:11:45Z")
Hi there, ucfk90… interesting moniker… to THE mone forum, PheroTalk! Spur of the moment, not always equates to getting what you pay for… What mone did you try out? Ok… for your questions… 1. I’ve used both and A314 oil, what I’m wearing today, BTW, has a slower ‘burn’ to it… it’ll last me @ 12 hours but the diffusion is not as strong… it may take several minutes for it to ‘get’ to others… but once it hits, be prepared to ‘show’ your Alphaness… [A314 spray](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic-spray/), A or B, will be the same quickness in hits, A is more concentrated designed so that you don’t need as much application, but, much more quickly when compared to the A314 oil, talking within a minute or so, but will be a fast burner… like, 3 to 5 hours in my case. I hardly can tell the scent after hour 6. For you, I’d suggest you try the A314/b or better yet, because of your age, likely IG would be a better fit, IMO. 1. For mones that can be used for self effects… yes, there are many people reporting positive self effects… for what you describe, if IShine gets you self effects, this is a mone I recommend. Now, if you want to see what others report on different mones in self effects, check out this thread that I started… effects not only in personality but mental prowess as well… [Mones that will clear up brain fog!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mones-that-will-clear-up-brain-fog/42569) 2. (My own addendum…) Check out the links on my sig below, especially as you’ve tried out mones. These I recommend for new ones that are checking out mones. The amazing in a bottle thread, though, is optional! 🙂 How’d ya find this site, By the way? > [@ucfk90](#): > > Hi guys, > > I’m a 21 year old college student at UCF who has tried Pheromones once before about a year ago. > > I was never involved in any support discussions, and didn’t research mones nearly as much as I probably should have prior to my spur of the moment purchase, so I’m fairly certain I didn’t use them properly. > > I saw a product at wal-mart the other day which stated it contained pheromones and after thinking about it, it brought me back here. I searched through the available products to see that the A314 I was always interested in purchasing is now available in a more cost-friendly spray. > > Being 21 and in college, money is a concern of course. I believe that I work hard for the little that I have, so it is nice to be able to use the product for a lower cost to ensure it is something I am interested in. > > The vast amount of information available here shocks me. I hope to learn a lot, and see results that I may not have gotten my first time around. I do have a couple of questions I figured I would ask here since everyone seems so helpful: > > 1. If I do purchase the A314, I’m aware of the oil / alcohol base difference between the spray and the dropper. Has anyone that has used both noticed differences between the effects of the two? > > 2. I often feel that I am down and out, kind of uninterested in things and not really concerned. Often I am irritable when tired, and just in a bad mood for not much of a reason at all. I try to prevent this when I can, but sometimes it still shows. Part of me believes this could be a medical issue (I haven’t looked into that), but another part of me believes something like pheromones could help. > > I’ve found that typically when I drink, or take energy supplements (such as caffeine & workout drinks), I have a much better attitude and mind-set, I also get along with people much easier. > > Is there any kind of product sold here that could be recommended to me for self effects to help aid this issue? > > Thanks for your time, > Michael ---
**Author:** ![dfredi5000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@dfredi5000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dfredi5000)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/giving-mones-a-second-shot/52876/4 "2011-10-17T21:11:58Z")
For a little of a pick me up I would say [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), it really goes deeper than the physical stuff like a smile on the face, it puts me in a state of more positive thinking. I think we all get a little cranky when tired. And as far as the A314 goes I can only tell you about others experience cause I haven’t tried it myself but it does sound quiet promising. I would def look into some shine maybe a Togo of it and research the others out there and see which ones strike your interest. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/giving-mones-a-second-shot/52876/5 "2011-10-21T18:18:59Z")
Welcome to pherotalk ucfk90! The difference according to the guys is that the A314 spray diffuses faster so takes effect faster. They will tell you more about the effect on others they have seen. Shine is a pretty good pick me up [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) and I suggest you try that. I recommend A314 for all my male clients but some of you need to work up to it if you are shy by using products like Ammo and IG. The guys gave you some excellent feedback. Good luck _ **Your gc was issued! 🙂** _