# Going to make an order. Target: Younger women. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 26, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651 "2012-12-26T14:02:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![The\_Anti-Lover\_13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_anti-lover_13/32/885_2.png) [@The\_Anti-Lover\_13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Anti-Lover_13)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651/1 "2012-12-26T14:02:50Z")
I am going to make my first order of pheremones and I was wondering what should truly be a good start for me? I am looking to heat up my platonic relationship with a younger girl. 17-21 is the age. See, we’ve been close. We cuddled, spooned, hugged, etc. But I believe there is some awkwardness in there. There are indicators of her interest in me, but then, there isn’t. I believe I am nearly skirting the Friend Zone and I am not quite there yet. We’ve known each other for 3 weeks. We see each other every Friday. I want to change things a bit. Spice it up if you know what I mean. I heard Tuth is effective, but great for the night club and bar scene, but will it make two close “friends” a bit more . . closer? Hehe, I wanted a good kiss before the year goes away. The only and last kiss of 2012 for me. Also, I am thinking of getting [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) as well! Any tips? My use for pheremones is mostly sexual and for relationships. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651/2 "2012-12-26T14:16:51Z")
> [@The\_Anti-Lover\_13](#): > > I am going to make my first order of pheremones and I was wondering what should truly be a good start for me? I am looking to heat up my platonic relationship with a younger girl. > > 17-21 is the age. See, we’ve been close. We cuddled, spooned, hugged, etc. But I believe there is some awkwardness in there. There are indicators of her interest in me, but then, there isn’t. I believe I am nearly skirting the Friend Zone and I am not quite there yet. We’ve known each other for 3 weeks. We see each other every Friday. > > I want to change things a bit. Spice it up if you know what I mean. I heard Tuth is effective, but great for the night club and bar scene, but will it make two close “friends” a bit more . . closer? Hehe, I wanted a good kiss before the year goes away. The only and last kiss of 2012 for me. > > Also, I am thinking of getting Instant Honesty as well! Any tips? My use for pheremones is mostly sexual and for relationships. Summer ammo, baby! IS too! ---
**Author:** ![AlGem1st](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/algem1st/32/1332_2.png) [@AlGem1st](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/AlGem1st)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651/3 "2012-12-26T15:02:17Z")
Welcome to the forum, for your situation and age you can’t go wrong with Ammo, Instant Shine and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) for your first order. Ammo + IS is a proven and favorite with a lot of forum members here. It covers all the bases for attraction, status, sexual, sensual and if you add a little IH for comfort you get yourself an all around mix. You still have to sweet spot test each mone by itself but going with Ammo + IH + IS in a 1:2:2 ratio is a proven & effective combo. TUTH will be of more value once you establish a bit rapport & comfort level. Cheers!!😃 ---
**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651/4 "2012-12-26T23:19:31Z")
I’m not an expert, but if you want to get physical without the creepiness of TUTH, I think [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) + P83 is good. However I think in this situation, it’s more about getting her alone and going for the kiss, regardless of what you wear. ---
**Author:** ![Evilcalyptic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evilcalyptic/32/1567_2.png) [@Evilcalyptic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Evilcalyptic)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651/5 "2012-12-27T02:45:51Z")
I still dont get it, i have to use like 5 sprays of ammo, i always have… blows my mind, but if your gonna be close to here you shouldnt need 5 heh but in my opinion the only useful mainstream [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) on androtics are Ammo, A314, CTTM2, and IS… thats it… to me the rest of the mainstreams arnt worth the penny ---
**Author:** ![The\_Anti-Lover\_13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/the_anti-lover_13/32/885_2.png) [@The\_Anti-Lover\_13](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/The_Anti-Lover_13)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 4:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651/6 "2012-12-27T04:08:33Z")
So, from what I’ve heard so far, Tuth is very strong, then? Even a single spray for a young man such as myself( I am 20) can ward off the females? I always considered getting it, but Ammo and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) seem to be the most recommended ones. I’ll start slow then and then go up to Tuth. Thanks!! But did you guys ever personally use Tuth and how were the results? Not in a Club/Bar scenario, but one on one with a girl that you planned to escalate with either sexually or romantically? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2012, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/going-to-make-an-order-target-younger-women/57651/7 "2012-12-27T05:02:53Z")
> [@The\_Anti-Lover\_13](#): > > So, from what I’ve heard so far, Tuth is very strong, then? Even a single spray for a young man such as myself( I am 20) can ward off the females? I always considered getting it, but Ammo and Instant Honesty seem to be the most recommended ones. > > I’ll start slow then and then go up to Tuth. Thanks!! > > But did you guys ever personally use Tuth and how were the results? Not in a Club/Bar scenario, but one on one with a girl that you planned to escalate with either sexually or romantically? TUTH is no stronger than Ammo. It has exactly the same amount of Androstenone per spray. **However** it is not balanced/moderated by other mones and the two extra components are there to steer TUTH in a very sexual direction. This is why it can be problematic if you use it in situations where you can’t get sexual alongside its signal or where it would be inappropriate to get your cock out and get down to it - eg work, class, polite company etc. People can become uncomfortable with their responses, take you as creepy, aggressive etc. Now you can moderate TUTH with socials to help promote wider feelings and make it more usable in social environments, IO or IO/IS is good for this but it is still an overt mix best kept for raunchy situations or one-on one with someone already sexually comfortable with you or you can use a little TUTH to increase the sexual presence of the likes of Ammo but still retain an amount of moderation from their other components. I tend to work this way a lot - Start an evening with a more social/sexy mix and add-in some TUTH (or other overt none) if things are escalating and we move-on to a club, party, back to home or similar. With a bit of practice, you can transition the mix smoothly from sociable/interesting/sexy to very sexual in time with how her feelings are building. 😉 You also need to remember that younger women tend to be responsive to a more wide range of feelings when it comes to attraction compared to older women - So it helps to use a wider range of pheros to promote feelings across the board (but not so wide that everything becomes lost amongst everything else!).