# Good first date pheromones (quick answer needed)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 18, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964 "2014-05-18T15:03:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 3:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/1 "2014-05-18T15:03:30Z")

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This is kind of short notice, but… I have a first date tonight (Sunday), with a girl I met on a dating site. We wrote back and forth for a little less than a week, before scheduling a meeting at a quiet bar. She’s about my age, and based on her profile and my conversations with her, is somewhat of an artsy, world traveler type. (Not “granola”, just artsy.) Obviously, this is a good opportunity to use some pheromones. We’re both Caucasian, in early 30’s. What do you recommend?

I own Ammo Summer, Instant Shine, and P91.

I’m also expecting Ammo World and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to arrive in the next few days. Just a quick FYI, in case I shouldn’t be putting on conflicting pheromones signatures in a short period of time, if I end up seeing her again. I’m aware that Ammo Summer has a youthful “college freshman” vibe (got me some fun hits with a 23-year-old salesgirl once), while Ammo World has an older, more rugged vibe (yet to try it).

_For a report on how all this turned out, scroll down, and look for a line “Pheromones on a date” report highlighted in red._

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**Author:** ![Trickster2k5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trickster2k5/32/437_2.png) [@Trickster2k5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trickster2k5)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/2 "2014-05-18T15:22:31Z")

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1 spray [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), 2-3 sprays IS, and 10-15 mcg p91 (not sure what strength you have). But you have perfect ones

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**Author:** ![Trickster2k5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trickster2k5/32/437_2.png) [@Trickster2k5](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Trickster2k5)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/3 "2014-05-18T15:24:43Z")

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Edit that, maybe 1 spray IS bc Ammo summer has some in it already

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/4 "2014-05-18T15:27:23Z")

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Yes, either Ammo, and some IS will be an excellent first date mix - P91 won’t do it any harm but if you have not tested it singly yet, I would suggest you leave it out FTM.

If you have IO by then, that would also go well in the mix to help keep the conversation flowing.

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**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/5 "2014-05-19T16:06:54Z")

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“Pheromones on a date” report

“Pheromones on a date” report

Overall, I don’t think the date went over so well, but I did see some good hits, especially at the beginning. For a bit of recap, I met the woman on dating site, and scheduled a meeting about a week later. I put on 3 sprays of Ammo Summer, 2 sprays of Instant Shine, and 2 sprays of P91 (5 mcg/spray). Then I added a little bit of Bvlgari Aqva as a cover scent. Then I let it air out, and started driving over. Here are the effects I noticed.

**Self**  
I’m pretty sure it was probably the anti-anxiety effect of Ammo Summer, but I felt so chill and relaxed, it was unbelievable. I’ve come a long way when it comes to feeling nervous before a date, from borderline panic at age 17 (I had a late start, lol), to pleasant anticipation by my mid 20’s. But last night, I felt like I was standing at the back of a boat in the middle of a lake during a sunset. The mild downside is that I ended up driving slower than normal, but I kept it in check the best I could. The self-effects faded by the time I got to the bar.

**My date**  
It started out hard and fast. She must have gotten hit in the nose by my pheromones, because when she saw me, she gave me a warm but non-sexual hug, the way women typically hug their best friend or sister. (Ammo Summer’s soft vibe playing itself out, perhaps?) We sat down at the bar side-by-side. I read somewhere that it’s better than the more stereotypical sitting across the table, because it allows for more kino/touching. Which is exactly what I did, especially one moment when I had her demonstrate a dance move with me that I was describing. (I basically took her by the hand, and led her through the steps. I’ve used this tactic with a number of women before, as a fun excuse to break the touch barrier, and never had someone respond negatively.)

Throughout the date, we talked about places we went to, what dances we know, where our families are from, and a little bit about our jobs. As the date went on, I noticed the hits fade away, and at one point, she even held her arms in front of her briefly. She still smiled and talked plenty, but I don’t know, the arms-in-front body language kind of rubbed me the wrong way a little. At the end, there wasn’t even a hug, although she may have wanted to get to her car quickly, since there was a group of young men standing around the entrance. (Then again, wouldn’t she trust me to at least say something to them if need be?)

**Conclusion**  
I doubt there will be a second date. I’ll call her in a day or so, because she was fun and attractive enough for me to want to see her again, but that’s mostly a last-ditch effort. She did tell me where she will be doing Latin dancing later this week, and said that I should come, but the wording was more friendly than romantic, and no real date was scheduled. But since the time invested into her was so low (just a week’s wait, some short messages on the dating site, and a 10-minute drive to a bar near me), it’s really no big deal.

On the plus side, I do expect my Ammo World and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) to arrive by then, so I just might come to the Latin club where she will be, with those pheromones sprayed on. Perhaps she will respond better to Ammo World, since it’s more masculine, and her seeing me dance with other women will only make me look more attractive to her. (I’m pretty good at Latin dancing, and she knows it.) If she will be just a friend, not my first choice, but it won’t be too difficult to adjust, since I knew her for such a short time. Plus, she’s a regular at the dance clubs I often go to, so the less awkward I make things, the better.

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/6 "2014-05-19T16:27:42Z")

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I’d say that The TAA/[P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/) in summer Ammo, plus the P91 made things just too comfotable/laid-back. Maybe choose P91 with your WA Ammo next time, or stick to Ammo (either version) alone or with just IS.

If I may say, dating site women seem to be a bit more fiesty in the sexual department than normal dates - Mainly because a lot of the basic personality screening has gone before - So you tend to be more into an attraction-building situation rather than “get to know you”/build interest - which has already happened.

This of course is not an excuse for loading-up on TUTH and approaching with your cock-out! 😉😃

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**Author:** ![ocantu1987](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f04885/32.png) [@ocantu1987](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ocantu1987)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/7 "2014-05-19T19:47:34Z")

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did you go for the kiss? I always go for the kiss on my first dates lol

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**Author:** ![TheAttractor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theattractor/32/575_2.png) [@TheAttractor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheAttractor)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-first-date-pheromones-quick-answer-needed/61964/8 "2014-05-20T02:37:36Z")

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I couldn’t go for the kiss. Right after we left the bar, she walked toward her car really quickly, with only a verbal “good night”, like she was running away from me or something. I’m certain that I did nothing to creep her out. Perhaps she was intimidated by a group of young men standing outside the entrance. Whatever. I can try scheduling another date with her just to say I tried, but I pretty much marked this one as “better luck next time” in my mind.
