# Good Openers...need help!

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006>\
**Category:** Lounge\
**Created:** [July 26, 2009, 9:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006 "2009-07-26T09:52:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jsphng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8edcca/32.png) [@Jsphng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jsphng)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 9:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/1 "2009-07-26T09:52:08Z")

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What are good openers to use inside of a book store?

What are best methods of cold approaches?

Phero’s totally help with gettting tons more IOI’s and hits…but I’m still contending with Approach Anxiety.

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**Author:** ![Ur\_Conqueror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Ur\_Conqueror](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ur_Conqueror)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/3 "2009-07-26T14:50:26Z")

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dude if a girl is giving you IOIs then jump in there dont wait because trust me shes waiting for you to come talk to her she wants you too and the longer it takes the worse and if you dont you and her will both be dissapointed…

Try some IO on you i had great results using this when talking to women it makes the cold approach so much easier

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**Author:** ![peregrine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/peregrine/32/499_2.png) [@peregrine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/peregrine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/4 "2009-07-26T15:02:58Z")

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If you have balls that clank try this…

[SHOCK and AWE: The Apocalypse Opener - Pickup Artist (PUA) - Seduction Database - - Pick Up and Seduction Database](http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/routines/shock-and-awe-the-apocalypse-opener.html)

😮

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/5 "2009-07-26T19:21:14Z")

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I have seen that online, but I like the standard shock and awe…

But that is perfect for club close, since everyone single for the night is thinking the same thing… fuck… again… noone worth a damn…

girls are thinking… great… old maid… just me and my girls… no Coc #.

so yea it could work.

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**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/6 "2009-07-26T20:22:04Z")

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How about this one…

“Hello”

or “Hello, I’m evolver”

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/7 "2009-07-26T21:29:31Z")

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Don’t underestimate the power of eye contact. You can open with your eyes - if you know how. It really gets under a woman’s skin.

Musk

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**Author:** ![peregrine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/peregrine/32/499_2.png) [@peregrine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/peregrine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/8 "2009-07-26T21:33:58Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
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> Don’t underestimate the power of eye contact. You can open with your eyes - if you know how. It really gets under a woman’s skin.
> 
> Musk

Feel free to tell us how!!😃

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**Author:** ![mutley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@mutley](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mutley)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/9 "2009-07-26T21:36:37Z")

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[SHOCK and AWE: The Apocalypse Opener - Pickup Artist (PUA) - Seduction Database - - Pick Up and Seduction Database](http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/routines/shock-and-awe-the-apocalypse-opener.html)

Hey

That was an interesting link, never heard of that approach before but it looks insane!

Do you think that approach will work well with [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/)? They seem well suited.

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**Author:** ![peregrine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/peregrine/32/499_2.png) [@peregrine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/peregrine)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/10 "2009-07-26T21:46:36Z")

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> [@mutley](#):
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> [SHOCK and AWE: The Apocalypse Opener - Pickup Artist (PUA) - Seduction Database - - Pick Up and Seduction Database](http://www.bristollair.com/outer-game/routines/shock-and-awe-the-apocalypse-opener.html)
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> Hey
> 
> That was an interesting link, never heard of that approach before but it looks insane!
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> Do you think that approach will work well with Instant Jerk? They seem well suited.

I imagine the IJ would definately help out. I myself haven’t tried the opener yet but will soon. I can only see this working in a bar/club environment. Certainly not on the street. 😛

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**Author:** ![MuskCloud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f07891/32.png) [@MuskCloud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MuskCloud)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/11 "2009-07-26T22:47:38Z")

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> [@peregrine](#):
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> Feel free to tell us how!!😃

It really is quite simple. You lock eyes with a girl you like. It’s possible you haven’t even met her yet. She could be walking up to you on the pavement - sidewalk, for you US guys - and seeing you for the first time.

If you like her, let it show in your eyes. If you think, ‘Phwoar, she’s a bit of alright!’, let it show. Your pupils dilate when you find someone attractive and research has proven many times that people in photographs doctored to make the pupils bigger are rated as much more attractive than those whose pupils are normal size.

Don’t break the contact until she does and whatever you do, don’t do this if you feel aggressive for whatever reason. She can tell and it makes her run.

At worst, you’ll get a polite nod and a ‘Hello’. That’s your cue right there. Talk to her, lover boy. 🙂 If you’re lucky, you’ll get a smile and other IOIs, such as tucking her hair behind her ear.

I’ve had women out walking snap their heads round to keep me in sight when I do the eye opener.

It’s good for shy guys who want to build confidence approaching women on the street, but don’t feel that good talking to them yet. People are often in a hurry to get from A to B and a brief greeting and smile is often all you get. But that’s all a shy guy needs to start building confidence.

‘A woman smiled at me! Yes!’ 😃

Us more advanced guys just get a kick out of the reactions we get.

Musk

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**Author:** ![Jsphng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8edcca/32.png) [@Jsphng](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jsphng)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/12 "2009-07-27T06:28:04Z")

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Thnx dudes…this totally helps…I just gotta get over my own dumb shit.

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**Author:** ![Namaste1001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/namaste1001/32/1222_2.png) [@Namaste1001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Namaste1001)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/13 "2009-07-27T15:46:56Z")

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> [@MuskCloud](#):
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> It really is quite simple. You lock eyes with a girl you like. It’s possible you haven’t even met her yet. She could be walking up to you on the pavement - sidewalk, for you US guys - and seeing you for the first time.
> 
> If you like her, let it show in your eyes. If you think, ‘Phwoar, she’s a bit of alright!’, let it show. Your pupils dilate when you find someone attractive and research has proven many times that people in photographs doctored to make the pupils bigger are rated as much more attractive than those whose pupils are normal size.
> 
> Don’t break the contact until she does and whatever you do, don’t do this if you feel aggressive for whatever reason. She can tell and it makes her run.
> 
> At worst, you’ll get a polite nod and a ‘Hello’. That’s your cue right there. Talk to her, lover boy. 🙂 If you’re lucky, you’ll get a smile and other IOIs, such as tucking her hair behind her ear.
> 
> I’ve had women out walking snap their heads round to keep me in sight when I do the eye opener.
> 
> It’s good for shy guys who want to build confidence approaching women on the street, but don’t feel that good talking to them yet. People are often in a hurry to get from A to B and a brief greeting and smile is often all you get. But that’s all a shy guy needs to start building confidence.
> 
> ‘A woman smiled at me! Yes!’ 😃
> 
> Us more advanced guys just get a kick out of the reactions we get.
> 
> Musk

Thanks Musk. I have to admit I’m one of the shy guy’s who hardly ever approach’s or makes the first move. But I can see how this could help.

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**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/14 "2009-07-27T16:10:48Z")

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Good stuff musk

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/15 "2009-07-27T19:06:56Z")

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> [@andrew88777](#):
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> Or even better get 2 books on picking up women and ask her to decide which one would best help you get her phone number.

I like that.

It smacks of confidence and self-assured sexuality.

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**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/17 "2009-07-30T01:24:43Z")

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> [@Jsphng](#):
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> What are good openers to use inside of a book store?
> 
> What are best methods of cold approaches?
> 
> Phero’s totally help with gettting tons more IOI’s and hits…but I’m still contending with Approach Anxiety.

HI my name is Joe I couldn’t help but notice you might be interested in reading . . . . then roll wid it - she won’t bite & even if she does it won’t hurt THAT much.

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**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-openers-need-help/31006/18 "2009-07-30T22:26:31Z")

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Group Opener:

“Take off ya shoyts ‘n’ stay awhile.”

(Works best if you look like Hypnotica. Must be delivered with Coney Island accent.)
