# Good results from IG, IShine and A314, no effect from others **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 8, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653 "2014-04-08T16:55:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![campoviejo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@campoviejo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/campoviejo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/1 "2014-04-08T16:55:32Z")
Hi, I’m a new user of mones, and I started my adventure by ordering the introduction kit. After a week of trying separate sprays and combos, I’ve observed that the only ones from which I get IOIs are IG, IShine and A314, other sprays gave no results. [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) brought aggressive male reactions. Has anyone experienced the same? ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/2 "2014-04-08T17:07:14Z")
So you had 7 days to test 9 products (P74 was a freebie I assume?) and you’re already drawing conclusions? Test more. Solo first. In different environments. Around different people. Then share your observations here. Make sure to provide some context. Details about the environment, people around you (age, gender, personality etc.) and the reactions you’re getting help. We’re interested in consistent effects/reactions here. So many factors that can influence how people react… mones are only one part of the equation. Have fun testing. ---
**Author:** ![campoviejo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@campoviejo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/campoviejo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/3 "2014-04-08T17:15:49Z")
> [@Himeros](#): > > So you had 7 days to test 9 products (P74 was a freebie I assume?) and you’re already drawing conclusions? > > Test more. Solo first. In different environments. Around different people. Then share your observations here. Make sure to provide some context. Details about the environment, people around you (age, gender, personality etc.) and the reactions you’re getting help. We’re interested in consistent effects/reactions here. So many factors that can influence how people react… mones are only one part of the equation. > > Have fun testing. Perhaps I need more patience with drawing conclusions. Effects from IG were stunning, IOIs from girls aged 25-30 (I’m 36). My beautiful neighbor who never even said hi, smiled at me and held the door, which was funny actually. The other girl talked to me, and after saying bye almost walked into a car (must be careful with this). The combo IG + A314 created this fallout effect, I suppose, leaving some girls totally overwhelmed in a club/bar setting. Nevertheless, even though the testing period has been short, I have already decided about my next purchase - it will be A314, IG, IShine… And IJ for testing! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 5:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/4 "2014-04-08T17:23:16Z")
What dose range were you using with the ones that failed? Indeed, no response is often a sign you were using too little or too much - More often too much IME. Or using them in a totally unsuuitable environment - like TUTH in church! Also, a phero working quickly and easily is often a sign that it accents or complements some aspect of your personality/presentation and that the personality/body language you are giving-off is at odds with the others. Which again might indicate that a bit of work on these areas is good. ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/5 "2014-04-08T18:51:05Z")
> [@campoviejo](#): > > The combo IG + A314 created this fallout effect, I suppose, leaving some girls totally overwhelmed in a club/bar setting. Lmao, you’ve been testing a whole week and you have no idea what products do individually. There is no way you got “fallout effect” or even know what it is, especially in a club/bar. ---
**Author:** ![campoviejo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@campoviejo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/campoviejo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/6 "2014-04-09T00:14:19Z")
> [@Blacky\_Chan](#): > > Lmao, you’ve been testing a whole week and you have no idea what products do individually. There is no way you got “fallout effect” or even know what it is, especially in a club/bar. What a harsh and direct response! Enlighten me! Tell me, what is a fallout effect, Mr/Mrs? ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/7 "2014-04-09T07:23:38Z")
> [@Himeros](#): > > So you had 7 days to test 9 products (P74 was a freebie I assume?) and you’re already drawing conclusions? > > Test more. Solo first. In different environments. Around different people. Then share your observations here. Make sure to provide some context. Details about the environment, people around you (age, gender, personality etc.) and the reactions you’re getting help. We’re interested in consistent effects/reactions here. So many factors that can influence how people react… mones are only one part of the equation. > > Have fun testing. I second this. Whenever I’m trying out a new phero, I give it at least a week of solo testing before I really draw any solid conclusions. You might think you’re not seeing results from a product, but maybe you just haven’t figured out what its ideal environment is yet. Or what sorts of people react to it, and in what way. Patience, my friend. ---
**Author:** ![campoviejo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@campoviejo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/campoviejo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 8:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/8 "2014-04-09T08:43:59Z")
Thanks everyone for their input and don’t judge me too much for being a noob! 🙂 This phero world is so new to me, and I’m starting to like it! ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 9:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/9 "2014-04-09T09:40:26Z")
No judgement, we’ve all been there! Please keep us posted on your adventures! Btw, if you hover your mouse over the word “fallout” in your previous post, a description will drop down for you. Basically, it’s an obsessive stalker crush. It can only really be considered fallout if the female is a regular fixture in your life, not a one-time meeting. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/10 "2014-04-09T09:41:31Z")
Btw, if you hover your mouse over the word “fallout” in your previous post, a description will drop down for you. Basically, it’s an obsessive stalker crush. It can only really be considered fallout if the female is a regular fixture in your life, not a one-time meeting. ---
**Author:** ![lwatkins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lwatkins/32/472_2.png) [@lwatkins](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lwatkins)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 11:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/11 "2014-04-09T11:16:46Z")
IG + A314 B spray is a petty amazing combo as it’s approachable but still carries great confidence and charisma.. And I have heard you can get fallout from A314 alone (the spray, not so much the oil). I have not used shine but it’s the best deal in the store and does get hits on reports. IG on it’s own is charismatic and quite attractive to women, and does wonderfully in male company too. It’s under-rated as a product I feel. It’s a bit more social than A314, where as A314 would be better for “being the man in charge”. I have not heard of negative reactions to P74, but I’ll circle back to this if I hear it again. P74 is really good for relationship building. 15 mcgs of P74 (3 sprays of your freebie) is a sweet-spot for most people. Consider that not all negative reactions are related to the mones, and the biggest issue I’ve had with mones is that the eNone in A314, TUTH, and Ammo is sticky and difficult to wash off, so it can build up. Excess eNone buildup can make people react like you are a jerk. It looks like you are not yet familiar with the larger blue glass spray bottles. They are really fantastic, so consider getting a 30 ml of your fav product. It feels like they are spraying 3 times as much because of the high-quality misting nozzle spreads it out better. You can also order commercial line products in different scents for an extra charge if you get it in 30 ml. I have IG in [Akuto](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/akuto/) scent and I’ll tell you it was worth the extra 15 bucks. ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/12 "2014-04-09T14:43:12Z")
> [@lwatkins](#): > > IG + A314 B spray is a petty amazing combo as it’s approachable but still carries great confidence and charisma.. And I have heard you can get fallout from A314 alone (the spray, not so much the oil). I have not used shine but it’s the best deal in the store and does get hits on reports. > > IG on it’s own is charismatic and quite attractive to women, and does wonderfully in male company too. It’s under-rated as a product I feel. It’s a bit more social than A314, where as A314 would be better for “being the man in charge”. > > I have not heard of negative reactions to P74, but I’ll circle back to this if I hear it again. P74 is really good for relationship building. 15 mcgs of P74 (3 sprays of your freebie) is a sweet-spot for most people. Consider that not all negative reactions are related to the mones, and the biggest issue I’ve had with mones is that the eNone in A314, TUTH, and Ammo is sticky and difficult to wash off, so it can build up. Excess eNone buildup can make people react like you are a jerk. > > It looks like you are not yet familiar with the larger blue glass spray bottles. They are really fantastic, so consider getting a 30 ml of your fav product. It feels like they are spraying 3 times as much because of the high-quality misting nozzle spreads it out better. You can also order commercial line products in different scents for an extra charge if you get it in 30 ml. I have IG in Akuto scent and I’ll tell you it was worth the extra 15 bucks. So much misinformation. Wrong on the oil not being good for fallout. Wrong on enone being difficult to wash off, regular soap and water works. Wrong on 30ml spraying 3 times a togo. ---
**Author:** ![Miss\_Dragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/miss_dragon/32/866_2.png) [@Miss\_Dragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Miss_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/good-results-from-ig-ishine-and-a314-no-effect-from-others/61653/13 "2014-04-10T07:00:01Z")
> [@Blacky\_Chan](#): > > So much misinformation. > > Wrong on the oil not being good for fallout. > Wrong on enone being difficult to wash off, regular soap and water works. > Wrong on 30ml spraying 3 times a togo. He didn’t say that 30ml sprays 3 times as much, he only said it feels that way. But actually, the truth is that the 30ml do deliver more liquid per spray than the TOGO. Here’s the confirmation on that: > [@Are all sprays created equal?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-all-sprays-created-equal/61185): > > It has not escaped my notice that the to-go bottles and the 30ml bottles deliver different quantities of spray. Am I crazy? Are they actually spraying the same amount of liquid? If not, how can we really know that a 5mcg dose, for instance, is REALLY a 5mcg dose in either bottle? Does AD make the solutions more concentrated in the to-gos and less in the 30ml? In that case, should we be avoiding transferring mixes between different sizes of bottle?