# Got IO and IS: what does IS do on its own and with IO?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 11, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739 "2011-08-11T00:41:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/1 "2011-08-11T00:41:26Z")

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I just received my shipment today. I got IO and IS. I’ve tried the IO before and it works great. Curious on what the IS is going to do, especially those around me. What have you experience with IS or both combine?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/2 "2011-08-11T12:51:04Z")

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IS gives a happy/feelgood vibe. It is a fantastic social on its own but it also goes very, very well with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and it will steer IO into very playful territory.

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/3 "2011-08-11T15:58:37Z")

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Playful territory as in flirting?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/4 "2011-08-11T16:06:24Z")

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Oh yes - the happy/feelgood mood of IS and all the chatter of IO 🙂

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/5 "2011-08-11T18:46:43Z")

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Whats your experience with it? I mean like when you used it, what did you see women doing when they were near or talking to you?

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**Author:** ![Centrum\_Virium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Centrum\_Virium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centrum_Virium)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 6:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/6 "2011-08-11T18:56:07Z")

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For me it makes flirting just flow from normal conversation so much easier, it doesn’t do it on its own but it makes you feel easy and fun to do it, and makes her feel good enough to play.

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/7 "2011-08-11T19:03:13Z")

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Give me an example of your experience

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**Author:** ![Centrum\_Virium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Centrum\_Virium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Centrum_Virium)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/8 "2011-08-11T21:46:50Z")

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> [@KMill23](#):
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> Give me an example of your experience

Well the second time I used it solo I used 3 sprays from a togo right before meeting a friend and two girls I’ve met a few times at a coffee shop. I never even considered trying to game these girls, one of them was his ex and the other is nice but not my type. Conversation came really easy and I don’t know if that was IS effects on them or on me but I like it. I was making innuendo’s and they were laughing and throwing worse ones back, I already had their numbers but never spoke to them. One of them ended up texting me later saying it was nice seeing me before and if I would like to go out with them clubbing the following night.  
All of that to me spells that she found me fun and attractive, I definitely put the attraction down to IS but it did make me feel smoother and funner which will make her more attracted.

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/9 "2011-08-11T21:56:35Z")

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Good to know. Hopefully that helps me. I start my 5th semester next week, hope it works.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/10 "2011-08-11T22:22:46Z")

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> [@KMill23](#):
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> Whats your experience with it? I mean like when you used it, what did you see women doing when they were near or talking to you?

Lots of different reactions but all of the happy/pleased to see you/chatty/open to conversation/laughing at your bad jokes variety. Reaction is not a standard thing - **you** need to be the judge of her response and if she is open to convo or more overt flirting.

Have you read this thread - It may be useful:

> [@How to Tell a Woman is Interested In You -- The Master "Indicators of Interest List"](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-tell-a-woman-is-interested-in-you-the-master-indicators-of-interest-list/8333):
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> Multiple looks. Women have much better If you catch us looking at you more than once, it’s probably becuse we’re attracted and we can’t help it. You catching us looking at all. Women look at you fast. If you catch us looking at you, this may be because we’re attracted. Not always (I get horrified when I see someone catching me looking when I’m not actually interested), but often. You guys have muscle, but we have social muscles. WHen you catch us being less than discreet, we often mean it and/…

🙂

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/11 "2011-08-13T15:34:42Z")

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I have read that. I’ve used that guide to help me. Out of all the girls that I’ve talked to while using the [pheromones](https://a314.com/), only 1 was single and she did like me because her old professor asked me if I single or not. So I know it works, I just have to be in the right place. It seems like the majority of girls at my junior college are either taken by a boyfriend or marriage.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/12 "2011-08-13T16:32:49Z")

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It looks like you may beed to widen your range of options for meeting girls then. There are plenty places and situations away from college.

Really it is a numbers thing and don’t take too much time over each girl you like the look of - The pheros do help here and it soon becomes obvious who is responding or not. In fact they will help you socially in all ways and the more people you meet and talk to, the more comfortable you will become. 🙂

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/13 "2011-08-13T16:48:36Z")

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Have you ever gone to a place by yourself and got any reaction to the pheros?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/14 "2011-08-13T16:59:56Z")

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All the time. 🙂

In fact I’ve spent most of this afternoon doing just that, just to see what hits/interest I get from the pheros I’m experimenting with just now - which is a social/status/authority mix.

And I’ll probably be going home for a shower soon and back out with a more attractive mix to a pub/club later. See what that turns-up. Always learning! 🙂

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/15 "2011-08-13T17:02:29Z")

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That’s what I’m doing to. When you go out, you make the first move or do they?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 5:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/16 "2011-08-13T17:09:54Z")

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It varies - With the sort of mix I’m running this afternoon, which is fairly hi-status, I would probably have to make the first move, but usually once I’ve started, the pheros help smooth and steer the conversation/interaction. Today they did, with several people.

With the one I’m thinking-on for tonight, it can be more even handed. As the man, you would still be expected to do a fair bit of opening but In a more sexually charged environment like a pub with bands/dancing or a club, I would expect some women to show overt interest and a slight variation on this mix has paid dividends before. 🙂

Also, going out yourself and talking to strangers - Even if you are not that attracted to them can do wonders for your own self confidence and sociability. Pheros hit right across the board and can open new doors for you all the time (like when her attractive mate starts coming-on to you! 😉 ). In these situations, you need to be aware of the signs of interest that women telegraph to you to indicate they are open to conversation and whatever else may or may not follow.

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/17 "2011-08-17T03:19:14Z")

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I tried it today. Met an attractive woman early in the morning before school started. Didn’t get her number but I might see her again. Then I’ve noticed that the majority of people who were sitting around me were women. Then I see two old high school classmates, we talked a little and then I gave a hug good bye to both of them, but here’s the weird part: one of them was squeezing my bicep muscles. Kinda odd but never happen before in my life.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 9:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/18 "2011-08-17T09:31:36Z")

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That sounds a good hit - It depends a lot on the person and how they express themselves but hits can vary from very subtle to quite blatent.

This is why life with mones gets a lot easier in more uninhibited situations - drinking, clubbing, partying etc. People drop their guard/social shields/notions of “proper” behaviour, so hits get a lot easier to spot. 🙂

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**Author:** ![KMill23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b77776/32.png) [@KMill23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/KMill23)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/19 "2011-08-17T22:24:01Z")

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yeah but why was she feeling my bicep muscle. She squeezed it like almost like a guy who would flex his muscles so a girl could squeeze. I wasn’t flexing at all.

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**Author:** ![DotCom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dotcom/32/2152_2.png) [@DotCom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DotCom)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/got-io-and-is-what-does-is-do-on-its-own-and-with-io/51739/20 "2011-08-17T23:42:59Z")

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IS is a **great** social pheromone. In fact, it can be used with any none mix alone. (though you gotta find the right dosage. Also, do keep in mind that effects of none will last far longer than the effects of IS, so you might OD later on. Never happened to me though).

Also, too much [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) and you will smell too beta, so yea its fine to mix IS and IO but dont go overboard

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