# Great combo 2nd date sex **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 4, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782 "2008-04-04T18:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/1 "2008-04-04T18:02:19Z")
Hey guys I found a good combo that might be worth experimenting with if you are brave enoguh 😃 I am 28 yo Mix: 2 drops A314 2 sprays TUTH 1 spray of Ammo 2x 1 spray [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) 2x 1 spray Instant Honesty 2x Ok I know it sounds like a lot but this is what I wore to my second date with this girl Previous experience: Met Her: At a club, she was working there. We didn’t kiss or anything at the club I just asked for het phone number. No phero usage 1st Date: 2 drops of A314 2 sprays of TUTH There was some heavy kissing and she even talked about feelings. Waited 1 week to see her again. I went out with her 2 nights ago wearing the mix I just posted. As soon as she came out of her place I went for the kiss like it was normal and expected. Went a small restaurant we has some beers, talked, kissed etc. Then we went to the car, so in the parking lot we had sex. Observations and effects explained: When I met her she was kind of nervous and happy to see me. In the car (on the way to the bar, around 30 min) she was chatty, talked to me about a club she went to, etc just kept on going nothing serious or anything just chatty, I would be quite and smiling with that “I love listening to you” kinda face, once in a while she would shut up ask if everything was ok (cuase I was so quiet) and kept going. TOTALLY INSTANT OPENNESS Then at the bar she kept using her mobile phone, I just looked away with an “I don’t care but I rather look at other people than watch you talk on the phone or hea the conversation” face. When she was done she apologized and told me that it was from work and she just got the account she was fighting for. I congratulated her and without hesitating she started saying everything about her work, then went on about past relationships (I might have started that topic), and we went into serious mor profound conversation INSTANT HONESTY at work! At the begining of the date she asked me where I wanted to go, what I wanted to do. Last time we couldn’t go bowling so this time she asked me if I wanted to. Since last time I chose the date I told her to chose this time and I wanted it to be a nice place. She was asking how nice? What kind of place? I knew she just wanted to please me so I said “Surprise me!” Mind you this was calculated move I do not ask my dates to choose all the time where to go I come from a place of I am in control and I decide that you decide (if that makes sense) . All the time she was asking for my opinion, what I wanted. She was gonna order food and gave me the options and I decided for her and she went along! With everything I said even when she disagreed she told me so and then said “let’s talk about something else” but respectfully. A314 anyone? Then in the car, (I hate going into details on this part cause I consider it intimate) but I will try to be as specific respecting my and her intimacy ok?🙄 Let’s say AMMO smelled good and TUTH did it’s job. Heat was very high, lot’s of dirty talking, lots of how much do you want it?, etc. Very wild Let’s say I “blame” the dirty talking to Instant Openness and Instant Honesty + Ammo and TUTH I am really not sure if Ammo did anything or it was just the TUTH, gues I’ll have to experiment and post again. Good luck if you decide to try the combo ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/2 "2008-04-08T23:52:14Z")
**UPDATE:** Against all forum members’ advice I was decided to go with my gut and mix the above combo in one TOGO bottle (I figures if I wasted it I would only waste around 1 or 2 ml of each). So I made my calculations and preceded to mix. This was because I was going to a club that night after work and wasn’t gonna go back home. (I couldn’t and wouldn’t carry all the bottles) So I mixed them 1ml of this 1.5ml of that there was a little of the bottle left so I filled it with more Ammo 😃 The combor needed around 9 to 10 sprays according to my calculations. So in the morning I applied 3 drops of A314 (2 to the neck and one to the inside part of the collar of my shirt) So I went to work…. **THE STORY** At around 6pm I was meeting my friends at some friends appartment and decided to spray 4 times the mix so the smell wouldn’t be as noticeable when I walked in and then just before the club I would spray more. So we started drinking and everything was going fine, so another friend called me and said he was at some bar and that we should join. When I proposed the idea everyone was like “nah” we are OK here so I said fine I’m leaving and started saying goodbye. Suddenly one of my friends said “OK we finish this beer we all go with you” and everyone was like OK (blame it on the pheros, my assertiveness on leaving or the good will of my friends I DON’T KNOW but I beleive my assertiveness was in some part due to the pheros) One of my female friends was getting very cozy and nice with me (we had this kind of attraction going on but she never really acted on it) I sprayed once more before entering the bar. We got to the bar and I found my other friend I was so glad to see him (and a tad bit drunk) that I invited a round of beer. When the waitress brought my tab I got her phone number no problem at all within a 5 minute interaction. Then I went back to chatting with my other friends and to make long story short I kissed the girl who had been nice with me at the appartment before the bar. Another female friend came to her and told her “I hate you” in a kind of jokingly serious tone. This was because she was kissing me to which I can only deduct she was attracted too. Then we all left and one of our friends dropped us off at her place. We had sex and again I think the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Instant Openess played their part in dirty talking. Man it was soooo good. **EXTRA INFO** I have never been ashamed of esperimenting with new stuff and telling people, so next morning I asked her if I smelled good. She said: “You smell different kind of like leather” 😕 I said “OK, but is it good?” So remembering I had sprayed to the back and applied A314 to the back of my shiert I grabbed my shiert and said “Smell this, what do you think?” She said “yeah that’s it that is what you smell like” “What is it? Is it you or is it something else?” Weird to me pheros have a smell but she actually thought I could sweat like that, well at first after that she said wait there is a sweet smell ther it is not you what is it? (of course it was ammo). I said I was experimenting with compounds to make myself feel better throught the way I smelled (which is partly tru so it is not a lie 😃 ) I grabbed my TOGO bottle and had her smell it. “Smells like sweat” she said, then I sprayed some on and let it die down a bit “actually it smells good on you” she corrected. So I guess pheros change smell after a bit and after combining with your chemistry (this is a breakthrough for me because it makes you realice you can’t just copy others combos and expect to act exactly the same so find your sweet spots individually and then do combos) She actually asked me to not leave that day, so I stayed another night with her (2 in a row). After I left, she called me later on to see if I wanted to go to the theater so I did, we had a couple of drinks before and talked some more about the way I smelled (used my combo again). The bartender was extremely friendly and looking for my approval, the girl even asked for the check and the bartender turned to me and said “Would you like the check now sir?” He was waiting for me to confirm what she had just said. He was asking ME if SHE liked her drink. Hahahaha At one point she told me I smelled like SEX, so I thought GREAT! 🆒 So we went into the theater and after that she asked me to come in again! We had some more sex and it was great. I leave it to you guys if I have just been lucky or this combo does work. But she has been looking for me today. But please before any conclusions I would love to hear others trying this combo and see if it is just placebo, luck etc. or if it works for you too, try it you have nothing to lose. PS At the bar I probably oversprayed but it must have not really mattered (for those who fear an OD), because the smoking, the ventilation and more importantly because this girl is 40yo so high -none may not have been that bad. Oh and BTW be careful I noticed it the first time but thought it was only me till it happened the second time. I feel kinda distracted and lightheaded (not dizzy) but heard to keep concentration. ---
**Author:** ![soe\_none](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soe_none/32/2344_2.png) [@soe\_none](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soe_none)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/3 "2008-04-09T03:22:52Z")
nice!!! I need to get to your level lol…sex after two dates…that’s AWESOME. Hmm dang it I should have ordered turn up the heat… ---
**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/4 "2008-04-09T03:39:52Z")
Which did you use, EJ … the one with all the products, and did you just spray all that in a TO-GO bottle or something else and put it in the TO-GO bottle? How old was the lady that you sexed up … was she only 16? 😃 Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 8:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/5 "2008-04-09T08:28:39Z")
Hey guys thanks for the compliments! > [@](#): > > I need to get to your level lol…sex after two dates…that’s AWESOME. It’s about loving the game man and having fun. I bet you could do the same, pheros just help a bit. Try a sprayin some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) for first date and then spraying even more for the second that way she will gradually become acostumed to -none How’s your game man? PM me if you need help with that I have some material that might be useful or if you need any tips or whatever. > [@](#): > > How old was the lady that you sexed up … was she only 16? Hahahaha that’s illegal 😉 j/k First girl was 23, second “girl” was 40 but looked much younger. First time I layered them since I was at home, but second time I used a pippet (sp?) and poured everything in a ToGo bottle since I needed the combo and wasn’t going back home. Please try it out and let me know how it goes! ---
**Author:** ![soe\_none](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/soe_none/32/2344_2.png) [@soe\_none](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/soe_none)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/6 "2008-04-10T02:09:32Z")
well as far as my game is concern, it’s a little weak. I actually have a copy of the game–read it half way through but i’ve been real busy so i havent finished it. I’m also a follower of David Deangelo’s fast seduction (cocky+funny). To be honest I’ve tried C&F routine and it works great…I just cant get it to the next level. I’ve woo’ed and seduced a few women using C&F, but my success isn’t consistent, which is what I’m looking for. ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/7 "2008-04-10T04:40:47Z")
SOE\_NONE I just sent you a PM ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/8 "2008-04-10T20:31:27Z")
hook me up too? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tmoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ab992/32.png) [@tmoz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tmoz)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-combo-2nd-date-sex/10782/9 "2008-04-10T22:38:04Z")
Mind hooking me up too EJ? 😜 My game isn’t too consistent either ☹