# Great Day and great results **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 19, 2011, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420 "2011-03-19T12:44:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rizingfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rizingfire/32/1733_2.png) [@Rizingfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rizingfire)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 12:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420/1 "2011-03-19T12:44:37Z")
Ok, so I have been talking about an ex I recently reconnected with who I have been in love with for a long time, and since I am married to someone else, I have been an emotional mess, at least part of the time cuz I just want to be happy but I am torn in so many directions… Anyway I got to see her yesterday and was worried it would be kind of awkward, plus I want to know if she is down with seeing if we could work now or if permanently in the friend zone, so I did my usual sprays for the most part except I used 2 sprays of IS instead of 1. I used 1 spray of A314 sprayed on chest and rubbed in with arms to neck, etc. 2 sprays of IS, 1 spray of IO and 2 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). This was applied to arm and chest and rubbed in all over, neck, torso, etc. I used 2 sprays of “Cool Water”, cologne to cover the A314 smell. So anyway, I was on my way and she was acting normal until right before I got there and she started sending messages like “yayyyyyyyyy its been so long” and “hurry up I miss you” and so I got there and gave me a hug and complimented the smell, which was my biggest concern. We were outside and walked around for a few hours. It would have been a better indicator if it was the mones if we were inside and it was windy so that may have had part to do with her playing with her hair a lot but she kept pulling it around the opposite side exposing her neck (which I just wanted to kiss so bad but restrained myself…hehe) As soon as I left she txted me that she missed me already and I felt the same way, I didn’t want to leave. I complimented how beautiful she was and she said that she thought I looked the same as I did when I was younger except my eyes look wiser and overall I seem more confident…which is true but I wonder if the A314 had anything to do with the “wiser” appearance. She used to shut down when I would compliment her but now she either says thanks and accepts it or returns with a compliment…I can’t believe how much I love this girl. I would have given anything to not but if it is meant to be it will be the most worked for relationship in history…but I am so thankful we never got back together prior cuz I would have destroyed the relationship and she is worth so much more. Idk what was the mones and what was me but whatever the case it made me confident enough that the whole situation went far better then I expected. I know for now I need to keep my emotions in check and make no mistake, I will not cheat on my wife but if it goes that direction, I would be a very happy guy. Just need to be patient and let things take their course… I tend to think that it was a combination of both, but I just want to thank you all. The couple hundred bucks I spent on mones was worth EVERY penny if for only that one experience, so thank you! ---
**Author:** ![ps86651](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ps86651/32/206_2.png) [@ps86651](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ps86651)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420/2 "2011-03-19T13:46:27Z")
> [@Rizingfire](#): > > Ok, so I have been talking about an ex I recently reconnected with who I have been in love with for a long time, and since I am married to someone else, I have been an emotional mess, at least part of the time cuz I just want to be happy but I am torn in so many directions… > > Anyway I got to see her yesterday and was worried it would be kind of awkward, plus I want to know if she is down with seeing if we could work now or if permanently in the friend zone, so I did my usual sprays for the most part except I used 2 sprays of IS instead of 1. > > I used 1 spray of A314 sprayed on chest and rubbed in with arms to neck, etc. 2 sprays of IS, 1 spray of IO and 2 sprays of Ammo. This was applied to arm and chest and rubbed in all over, neck, torso, etc. I used 2 sprays of “Cool Water”, cologne to cover the A314 smell. > > So anyway, I was on my way and she was acting normal until right before I got there and she started sending messages like “yayyyyyyyyy its been so long” and “hurry up I miss you” and so I got there and gave me a hug and complimented the smell, which was my biggest concern. We were outside and walked around for a few hours. It would have been a better indicator if it was the mones if we were inside and it was windy so that may have had part to do with her playing with her hair a lot but she kept pulling it around the opposite side exposing her neck (which I just wanted to kiss so bad but restrained myself…hehe) As soon as I left she txted me that she missed me already and I felt the same way, I didn’t want to leave. I complimented how beautiful she was and she said that she thought I looked the same as I did when I was younger except my eyes look wiser and overall I seem more confident…which is true but I wonder if the A314 had anything to do with the “wiser” appearance. > > She used to shut down when I would compliment her but now she either says thanks and accepts it or returns with a compliment…I can’t believe how much I love this girl. I would have given anything to not but if it is meant to be it will be the most worked for relationship in history…but I am so thankful we never got back together prior cuz I would have destroyed the relationship and she is worth so much more. > > Idk what was the mones and what was me but whatever the case it made me confident enough that the whole situation went far better then I expected. I know for now I need to keep my emotions in check and make no mistake, I will not cheat on my wife but if it goes that direction, I would be a very happy guy. Just need to be patient and let things take their course… > > I tend to think that it was a combination of both, but I just want to thank you all. The couple hundred bucks I spent on mones was worth EVERY penny if for only that one experience, so thank you! My friend, I am very happy that you got the desired results - remember that pheros served as a “guide”, you were the one doing all the work! I know it’s absolutely none of my business and of course, to each his own, but I am a big believer in the institution of marriage…why did you marry the other girl if you felt this way about your ex? It’s unfair on her… “I will not cheat on my wife but if it goes in that direction, I would be a very happy guy” - I doubt that she will be. ---
**Author:** ![Rizingfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rizingfire/32/1733_2.png) [@Rizingfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rizingfire)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420/3 "2011-03-19T14:44:07Z")
TMI to leave online, was just being 100 for the duration of the conversation… ---
**Author:** ![Rizingfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rizingfire/32/1733_2.png) [@Rizingfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rizingfire)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420/4 "2011-03-19T14:50:05Z")
Also, if we aren’t made for each other then I am taking from her and the guy she was made for’s happiness…I wouldn’t cheat, I would see where it goes and when it got to that level it would be time to sign the divorce papers…but I am so confused I don’t want to let temptation destroy my life either…so it’s so complicated…I’ve been asking God but the answer I keep getting is “consequences for your actions” refering to getting married so soon when I shouldn’t have…so now the next question is where do I go from here, I am just trying to figure it out… It would have been different with the x had we broken up and not been forced apart, but I don’t want it to be about getting my way or finishing a challenge, I want it to be because we are in love…so now we just have to wait and see what happens… I think the wife was more in love with the idea of being in love then in actually in love with me…we were both pathetic and we filled that void temporarily, but not well…and my wife is a good person and deserves to be treated well and right now, I can’t, and it has gotten progressively worse. Just trying to do the right thing but so many variables I am not sure what that is. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420/5 "2011-03-19T19:27:16Z")
> [@Rizingfire](#): > > Also, if we aren’t made for each other then I am taking from her and the guy she was made for’s happiness…I wouldn’t cheat, I would see where it goes and when it got to that level it would be time to sign the divorce papers…but I am so confused I don’t want to let temptation destroy my life either…so it’s so complicated…I’ve been asking God but the answer I keep getting is “consequences for your actions” refering to getting married so soon when I shouldn’t have…so now the next question is where do I go from here, I am just trying to figure it out… > > It would have been different with the x had we broken up and not been forced apart, but I don’t want it to be about getting my way or finishing a challenge, I want it to be because we are in love…so now we just have to wait and see what happens… > > I think the wife was more in love with the idea of being in love then in actually in love with me…we were both pathetic and we filled that void temporarily, but not well…and my wife is a good person and deserves to be treated well and right now, I can’t, and it has gotten progressively worse. Just trying to do the right thing but so many variables I am not sure what that is. OK I’m going to be brutally honest here. You’re using self deception to make yourself feel better about your actions here. Here’s what I mean by that. You’re waiting to see if HER feelings take things in a direction you already want to go. But keeping your wife as a safety net just in case it doesn’t go that way. The simple fact that you already seem to want this woman more than your own wife already answers the question about whether or not you and your wife are right for each other. You’re not protecting your wife, you’re protecting yourself from being alone by not just committing to what you want and making the leap without a safety net. If you left your wife and the other woman doesn’t want to rekindle things, then you’re left alone and that’s the real reason for the indecision. If it was about doing what’s right for your wife, then the knowledge that you still want your ex and would leave your wife for her if the situation allowed for it…well that’s all the info you need to know regarding what’s best for her. Staying with your wife because you want to wait and see if the ex wants you back as much as you want her first…that’s protecting you and reduces your wife to a door number 2 consolation prize. In the end you’ll do what you want, with either of the two women, but don’t try and convince yourself that you’re being more noble than you actually are. You can leave your wife and get the ex, or you can leave your wife and lose the ex…the only difference is that in one scenario the wife isn’t the only one getting hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Rizingfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rizingfire/32/1733_2.png) [@Rizingfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rizingfire)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420/6 "2011-03-19T19:47:52Z")
Ya, you are spot on, I never said it wasn’t but I am constantly conflicted. I told myself to grow up and move on a long time ago but when I started being unhappy with the wife I started remembering what it was like with the other and the two don’t even compare. I should have listened to my counselor and not gotten into a relationship for a while but I didn’t I was lonely and have been my whole life despite being good at one night stands…everything you say is true and I am not trying to be nobel. I want to be with who is made for me but if I look 30 steps down the road of life there are multiple possibilities where either would work, unfortunately until the wife stops doing everything in her power to not to excersize or eat right and you can’t raise kids in that environment. If you are saying what I said about having second thoughts on my wedding day that was the truth, but it was too late by then, I have been a constant disappointment to people, that would have been the icing on the cake…I am just torn because of the arranged marriage argument. I want to be in love and I clearly never was with my wife, I just figured since we got along well we would grow into it but im not comfortable feeling like Im cuddling with a linebacker…and she doesn’t cuddle anyway. I’m not trying to sugar coat shit, just being 100% honest. I try to do my best to live by the Word but the x was just someone special who had I not gotten all weird, there was 3-4 other times we would have gotten back together, the time wasn’t right. I am pretty convinced she’s my soulmate and have been saying it for about 10yrs and shes agreed for several…so yes I need to know and yes I made a mess out of things and yes people will get hurt and I have been hurt for quite a while anyway, just really want to be happy and put and end to that…but to think that settling was the answer because her fathers theology seemed solid…didn’t ocour to me he didn’t teach it to his kids very well…and that has caused a lot of problems, more then you would think… It will likely be more then one person getting hurt so it is a lose/ lose situation. If I do nothing I am not happy and if I do something theres a 50/50 shot it could go good but equal it doesn’t and there are things like the house we can’t sell for 2 more yrs without a loss and honestly I was thinking about leaving before thinking about the x, the only thing that stopped me was the cat…it wasn’t til about 6 months to a year after I decided I screwed up royally, I was looking back at past gf’s and just trying to remember if they did certain things and then it just kinda spiraled from there…and we had been friends for years, but I stopped talking to her cuz it just hurt too much to not be with her, so I just blocked her out…but since most of what didn’t work was due to my being a frigen mess, well she would start falling back in love and tell a friend who would tell me and Id act whipped but I think I mentioned that already…for the 1st time in life I am successful and for the most part in control…we got along great and it just wasn’t the time, but this was the one that I just never could get over so I guess I really just love her…all of the other girls I thought I loved faded out after a yr or so and no attraction when I have seen them after… now that I’m not it is only natural to wonder if the love of my life is a possibility… ---
**Author:** ![Rizingfire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rizingfire/32/1733_2.png) [@Rizingfire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rizingfire)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-day-and-great-results/49420/7 "2011-03-19T20:17:54Z")
But I am not trying to make myself out to be anything, just trying to explain the hundreds of different things behind me ending up in the position I have no. It was no cop out when I said I was pathetic and just desperately wanted to be loved…but one can only take so much rejection before wanting to kill yourself so that was when I went on my whore spree clubbing…just to distract myself and I forgot about her for a while but then since I am subjected to all these lovey-dovey shows, it just got to me. I know where I think I should be but there is a lot that has to be changed and we can’t even afford a divorce right now, so it is just easier to do nothing but I would like to just be friends and see if it becomes more in which case I will do what needs to be done…I can’t handle that level of drama right now. It’s nice to not have the anxiety anymore, for the most part. I know I screwed up bro and I also know a lot of people are gonna get hurt but don’t for a second think that I didn’t pray for a good year or two that God would change my hear and make me see my wife like He sees her and let her be attractive to me, etc…I know you obviously think I was trying to say it in a way I am not, let it be an example, don’t compromise on things you are sure about and be sure you really are in love. I have felt this way about my wife pretty much from the beginning, I deluded myself for the 1st 6-12 months but I just kept telling myself that everyone goes through this and I just got to do the right thing but then 5 yrs go by total and it still is the same issue, she wont give and I have done NOTHING BUT CHANGE, my core personality is the same but I am responsible and a lot better person then I used to be and I can’t do this for the rest of my life cuz that fucking voice that keeps rubbing it in my face that most of my friends gf’s work out so the stay in shape and they don’t even need it but have overheard them say more then once that they do it to look good for their man and if I am not good enough to qualify when I told her from the beginning what I liked and what I didn’t…I just shouldn’t have bought it all, whats on the inside is important but if you don’t find the outside attractive it isn’t gonna grow into anything good. I sleep with her once in a blue moon because the Bible says I should…and I tried hoping it would help, but doesn’t matter, she is unwilling to compromise and I am unable to change the way I am wired…but there is no way for me to change the way I feel. Its obviously been there for over a decade and while I shoved it in a box, I can’t stay away from my best friedn for the rest of my life, I can’t help that I love her so deeply.Maybe it’s cuz I saved her ass from falling off a cliff or because we spoke for months on the phone for 2-5hrs a day and I had seen her silohuette but the light was behind her so I didn’t really know what she looked like so I fell in love with her and then got the bonus that she was absolutely beautiful and I am absolutely wired for her, she is like a drug to me…and if she were to develop the same I can’t help but know that would be something most are not fortunate to ever experience and now the awkwardness is gone…there were so many things that happened on both sides over a number of years, I couldn’t ever really convey the situation. Like I said I have never cheated nor do I intend to but I can’t ignore what I know. Just answering the question, I know it was multifascited and there is much more but I didn’t really want to share all this, just that the mones helped make the situation very easy and I had a great day which was the purpose…and initially my motive was more of closure…wasn’t til after we started talking more that I started thinking…which is my worst nightmare so I usually try to stay super baked so I can forget everything else and micromanage what I want…but to bring kids into the mix made it way to serious cuz when I have kids they will be in a stable home…I am not creating kids just so they can suffer because their parents shouldn’t have been together in the 1st place and I get spiteful and she picks…I would hope it could end respectful but I doubt it…never goes that way…I am really just all over the place. I am taking anything people say into consideration…its about to be my busy season so I am not doing anything or even worrying about it til after the summer is over…