# GREAT TO BE BACK but.... need some help **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 8, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-to-be-back-but-need-some-help/39175 "2010-06-08T01:55:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-to-be-back-but-need-some-help/39175/1 "2010-06-08T01:55:23Z")
HELLO TO THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF PHEROTALK!!! hahaha missed you guys šŸ˜ƒ this is in the intro section because Iā€™m just getting back into it and saying hi and I thought this section was most appropriate. If you donā€™t have time to read this whole thing but still wanna help, you can. Just skip to the summary at the end I had started using [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) this Fall and had a great time with it, and even started a little with the putatives. Of course theres ALWAYS more to learn, but i do have my consumer products decently figured out, at least well enough that you PROBABLY donā€™t need to suggest new products, although I am of course always open to it, especially if its not the usual beginnerā€™s suggestion. I want something new and creative! (Youā€™ll see why in a sec.) Anyways, if you want my info for suggesting things, my original info is here: [Young newbie...sort of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/young-newbie-sort-of/34090) you wonā€™t need to read the intro for any other reason, and I donā€™t expect a gift card, you guys are extremely generous as it is. Of course its always appreciated if youā€™re in a generous mood hahaha šŸ˜‰ haha i just reread some of my old threads, man was I a smartass sometimes! oh well, I hope I didnā€™t annoy or frustrate anyone too much.:o anyways, I stopped using pheromones after pretty much my entire batch got contaminated (REALLY wish I had read up more about thatā€¦ and that I had read more of Gegogiā€™s (i think thats his user name) ā€œthis converts to this, which converts to this, which converts to this because of bacteriaā€ posts. those are very interesting and I value them much more now (monetarily too! I had a lot of money go down the drain! hahaha oh well). I hope that I remember to warn new users enough on contamination of bottles (especially if theyā€™re like me and canā€™t tell the difference in smell and need some really good friends to tell them theyā€™ve smelt terrible for the last couple weeks). For me, thats all in the past and despite carrying around a **massive** cloud of contaminated pheros (so mainly -none that has gone bad, which with my bad sense of smell I canā€™t seem to detect ā˜¹) for a couple weeks šŸ˜®, all those I ran into during that seem to have forgotten about it entirely. I love the people in my life šŸ˜ƒ Now I have a bit more cash, that mess (which did kinda scare me off of pheroā€™s for a bit) is behind me, and theres an amazing girl who is a great friend of mine who Iā€™m hanging out with (fairly romanticly: bike riding through the park, walking around her neighborhood, watching scary movies (i know that she leaps into peoples laps during them hehe. HEY NOT THAT WAY U PERVS!!! hahaha). anyways, its one of those ā€œeverybody knows they like each other, they know they like each other, WHEN IS SOMETHING GONNA HAPPEN ALREADY?!ā€ situations, and its finally happening! Seeing as itā€™s not till Saturday, I figured I might order some mones to help, especially some honesty because the situation calls for it entirely (have any of you guys had a friend you helped out in that using honesty? just wondering, it seems perfect for those situations and those situations seem to come up a ton!). BUT I saw that theres only 1x strengthā€¦ same with IO and ISā€¦ theres no IJ (I wanted to try that for workouts) and most importantlyā€¦ THEYā€™RE OUT OF A314!!! AHHHH!!! All those except maybe the IJ being out of stock are serious problems to me, as my base is strongly A314. With her its not particularly important though (thank God), in fact she actually NEEDS some vulnerability from a guy to date him, and as long as Iā€™ve known her thats shown true. Anyways, I know she likes me for me, not for some alpha male which I could become. She doesnt respond well to high none, and puts me squarely in the friend category when I wear high rone, so I figure its best to avoid the ā€œmanliness/successfulā€ mones for the most part, or only have small doses. Even if Iā€™m wrong, Iā€™ll be fine without them. The main thing that is a problem for me is that she may love guys who smell good, and may not mind neroli, but she hates more than just a little bit of smell from them that isnā€™t them, at least in terms of my nose. If I can smell it from 2 feet away, other people can smell it from 20. (hahaha they should make a nose strength system like the eye system hahaha) So while I CAN deal with 1x honesty, shine, and openness, Iā€™d like to know if and when the stronger versions will be back. Also, my job, while not in serious threat, could use the help, and although minimum wage isnā€™t bad at ALL (donā€™t know why people complain about it so much, I get by šŸ˜ƒ) I would always like a raise and have set that as one of my many goals this summer šŸ˜ƒ. Iā€™d like to try IJ in the gym as Iā€™ve heard good things about it and could use a motivational boost for one of my other goals: getting in much better shape this summer. **SO IN SUMMARY:** CONTAMINATED BOTTLES ARE SCARY!!! TELL NEW PEOPLE ABOUT THEM!!! They often ask questions about whether heat and such will damage mones: thats a perfect opportunity. I need to know when IJ and A314 will be back in stock, and I need to know if and when the x4 (or x2) versions of IH, IO, and IS will be back. Those work wonders for me, especially with the girl I have in mind. Also, if you have any substitutions for those stronger versions (PARTICULARLY THAT HAVE LESS CHANCE OF ā€œSCENT ODā€), Iā€™d love to hear them! And finally, just any suggestions on what to do mone-wise would be very much appreciated!!! If I canā€™t get good ones by Saturday, it isnā€™t really a problem, Iā€™ll be fine without them (and have been for a while with her), so this isnā€™t a I NEED MONES NOW thread, I can wait. Iā€™ll have plenty more opportunities to impress her. \*\*Oh and if youā€™re quite the phero guru, can you tell me if LSā€™s androstadienone is treated so that it resists contamination? That was the one that got the worst the fastest. It may have just been because I tended to dab with it much more because it had a sprayer, but Iā€™m still curious. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-to-be-back-but-need-some-help/39175/2 "2010-06-08T02:20:56Z")
Woops! looks like I need to change my signature, because I donā€™t have any mones anymore! hahaha this should be pretty fun getting back into it, I canā€™t wait! Ahā€¦ Its summer again.šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-to-be-back-but-need-some-help/39175/3 "2010-06-08T02:25:17Z")
Well A314 is back in stock now. BUt I donā€™t think IJ is not coming back ā˜¹ .. As for the others I want IH x4 myself and no one knowsā€¦lately you just have to be patient. read this for more info: Whatā€™s Going On At Androtics ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-to-be-back-but-need-some-help/39175/4 "2010-06-08T02:49:49Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > Well A314 is back in stock now. > > BUt I donā€™t think IJ is not coming back ā˜¹ .. > > As for the others I want IH x4 myself and no one knowsā€¦lately you just have to be patient. read this for more info: Whatā€™s Going On At Androtics thanks a bunch! that was fast! I was about to thank you earlier, but I got lost in that p88 link in your sigā€¦ 0.o Iā€™m pretty sure there was hardly anything on it when I stopped using monesā€¦ glad to see thats changed! hmmmā€¦ well I guess Iā€™ll get my a314 thenā€¦ look for some threads on homemade IJ (do you think it might get taken off from misuse like IFM? whats the back story?). and iā€™ll be searching for threads on whatā€™s happened to the stronger versions. its very sad to see androtics in trouble, theyā€™re a great company. I hope they pull through with the least of problems, I have nothing but respect and gratitude for them. I wish I had more money or represented a company, I would invest. Although I suppose that since they mainly derive their money from the consumer products, I suppose the best thing we can all do is bring in the noobs!! The more new people, the more consumer products sold. Then my guess would be that that rise in profits would help androtics continue to direct funds towards research, which would eventually be bought by all the new consumers. Sounds like a good cycle to me! Iā€™ll try to remember to bring more to Androtics despite the initial embarrassment, I sadly havenā€™t done that yet, and honestly I should have. Its an amazing company, I hope for the best for the people there. ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-to-be-back-but-need-some-help/39175/5 "2010-06-08T03:01:20Z")
> [@flight](#): > > thanks a bunch! that was fast! I was about to thank you earlier, but I got lost in that p88 link in your sigā€¦ 0.o Iā€™m pretty sure there was hardly anything on it when I stopped using monesā€¦ glad to see thats changed! > > hmmmā€¦ well I guess Iā€™ll get my a314 thenā€¦ look for some threads on homemade IJ (do you think it might get taken off from misuse like IFM? whats the back story?). > > and iā€™ll be searching for threads on whatā€™s happened to the stronger versions. > > its very sad to see androtics in trouble, theyā€™re a great company. I hope they pull through with the least of problems, I have nothing but respect and gratitude for them. I wish I had more money or represented a company, I would invest. Although I suppose that since they mainly derive their money from the consumer products, I suppose the best thing we can all do is bring in the noobs!! The more new people, the more consumer products sold. Then my guess would be that that rise in profits would help androtics continue to direct funds towards research, which would eventually be bought by all the new consumers. Sounds like a good cycle to me! Iā€™ll try to remember to bring more to Androtics despite the initial embarrassment, I sadly havenā€™t done that yet, and honestly I should have. Its an amazing company, I hope for the best for the people there. Hey no Prob. I think they are doing better nowā€¦because things seem to be coming back faster and faster. As with IJ, I donā€™t know the back storyā€¦if you search around i think youā€™ll find what youā€™re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2010, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/great-to-be-back-but-need-some-help/39175/6 "2010-06-08T03:02:53Z")
> [@happytappin](#): > > Hey no Prob. > > I think they are doing better nowā€¦because things seem to be coming back faster and faster. > > As with IJ, I donā€™t know the back storyā€¦if you search around i think youā€™ll find what youā€™re looking for. will do and glad theyā€™re doing better. haha check youā€™re other thread!! thats so ironicā€¦ and if I find anything, Iā€™ll post it here.