# Greetings and Salutations from a massage therapist

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 18, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572 "2007-03-18T21:58:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elevation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@Elevation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elevation)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2007, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/1 "2007-03-18T21:58:08Z")

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Hey folks…been lurking for a while but you’ve all convinced me to take the plunge. There’s good stuff here, I wish I had time to read it all. A lot for my short attention span to sift through, but I just want to say the stickies you guys made for newbies are awesome.

My newbie question…I’m not sure if I want to use these at work but I wanted feedback first. I know not all of these pheromones are sexual but I want to be careful and get the right combo, because I am a massage therapist. And since I’m not the type of therapist who puts ads in the “Erotic Services” section on CraigsList (not that I’ve, uh, ever browsed it or anything…), the last thing I want to do is freak clients out by giving off sexual vibes. And I don’t think the chiropractor I rent from would like that either. (now SHE, on the other hand, I’d like to see naked. But that’s another story). 🙂 So sex 'mones are out. However, I don’t really want anyone to get too spacey or chatty either. I was hoping that there would be something simple I could wear that would help build rapport with both male/female clients, help them relax around me (especially the new ones), and maybe get them to pay attention a little better when I give them stretching exercises, etc. If it helps with tipping and getting them to rebook, all the better.

So I need a professional yet warm and fuzzy aura. From what I’m reading, it seems like A314 and [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is the way to go. I’ve ordered Instant Shine, but it doesn’t really seem right…unless maybe a small spray? Anyone have experience in this area?

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**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/2 "2007-03-19T00:36:50Z")

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a314 and IG should be an excellent combination for your purposes. I’d go light on the a314. Perhaps start with one drop. The combo, in my experience enhances trust and comfort. I think your customers will enjoy the effect, and feel safe and relaxed.

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**Author:** ![HotMama](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hotmama/32/1786_2.png) [@HotMama](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/HotMama)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 1:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/3 "2007-03-19T01:53:19Z")

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I haven’t personally experienced the product just yet, but in case it’s not mentioned, I’d say, try [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) for your female clients. It’s designed to make women relaxed and comforted without the sexual vibe (which you definitely don’t want while working)

You’re not in MA state, by any chance, are you?

I’ve been looking for a good massage therapist for a while..

I’d say Shine is a good first product, on and off work. Not so much of a sexual thing, just a good feeling all ovah!

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**Author:** ![jpballerina](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jpballerina/32/1004_2.png) [@jpballerina](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jpballerina)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/4 "2007-03-19T01:57:49Z")

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[Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) + a massage?

Yeah, I’d tip you big.

Wow.

xoxo  
jp

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**Author:** ![Elevation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@Elevation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elevation)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/5 "2007-03-19T02:21:22Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
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> A314 and Instant Gentleman should be an excellent combination for your purposes. I’d go light on the A314. Perhaps start with one drop. The combo, in my experience enhances trust and comfort. I think your customers will enjoy the effect, and feel safe and relaxed.

Excellent, thank you!

The androtics website said that [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) could be “sexually suggestive” but at the same time “appropriate for daytime use”. I had no idea what that was supposed to mean. But if you guys think its cool I might give it a whirl. I’ll try it on a client I already know really well and see how they react.

HotMama - Sorry, I’m in MD, not in MA. Too bad. You coulda been my guinea pig 😃

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**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/6 "2007-03-19T08:29:34Z")

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> [@Elevation](#):
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> Excellent, thank you!
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> The Androtics website said that Instant Shine could be “sexually suggestive” but at the same time “appropriate for daytime use”. I had no idea what that was supposed to mean. But if you guys think its cool I might give it a whirl. I’ll try it on a client I already know really well and see how they react.
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> HotMama - Sorry, I’m in MD, not in MA. Too bad. You coulda been my guinea pig 😃

HOT! Sure she is!!😛 But they used to say don’t play with “hot things”…you might get burned!!😛 😃 😃

btw, welcome aboard and good luck!🙂

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**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2007, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/7 "2007-03-19T18:26:54Z")

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> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#):
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> A314 and Instant Gentleman should be an excellent combination for your purposes. I’d go light on the A314. Perhaps start with one drop. The combo, in my experience enhances trust and comfort. I think your customers will enjoy the effect, and feel safe and relaxed.

This is very good advice - and maybe a _little_ bit of beta-androstenol like in IH.

Unless all your clients are female I’d avoid IFM at work - it can be depressing for some males.

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2007, 7:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/8 "2007-04-02T07:55:07Z")

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I second what jp said. Massage therapist + pheromones = $huge tips$!!!

IH would be good to get some deep rapport/trust with your clients. It would aid them in feeling really comfortable with you, like they’ve known you forever. It’s interesting to hear what people _say_ while they are “under the influence” of IH.

IFM, like Carrie says, is _greeeeeeeeat_ if you have a big female clientele, but I wouldn’t advise much of it around males at all. Males reactions to IFM run the gamut from unfazed to grouchy to dismal. Soo weird, because females reactions run the gamut from excited, comfortable, to giddy and ditzy. It’s night and day around different sexes.

Feel free to give me a call if you want to talk phero strategy in your workplace. I would definitely guarantee you’d be seeing some positive hits depending on which particular mix you chose.

Welcome to the forums! I hope to hear a lot from you very soon. **Your gift cert has been updated and is waiting for you in your inbox. 🙂**

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**Author:** ![stud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stud)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/9 "2009-01-20T15:41:43Z")

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Elevation

Now that you have had some time with pheromones and massage what would you recommend for a starting out massage therapist in a spa setting to increase client base and possibly tips?

Thankyou.

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**Author:** ![Elevation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@Elevation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elevation)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/10 "2009-01-20T23:54:20Z")

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Increasing the client base is all about getting repeat customers, so focus on creating a nice massage experience and the business and tips will come. Pheros can definitely help with that. Since you’re in a spa you’ll probably get mostly women for your clientele. [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is great great GREAT for this…spray, go in and rub, and listen to them purr for an hour. 2 sprays works well enough for me but experiment to find what works for you.

Instant Honesty is good too, if you don’t mind your clients getting chatty. Some will babble nonstop, which I can find annoying. But it’s good for rapport-building, and they’ll feel at ease talking to you, which will encourage them to think of you when they want to reschedule.

Instant Shine is probably a good one to add. My standard work mix is 1 drop A314 and 3 sprays Instant Shine. I focus on therapeutic/orthopedic work, so this is a good mix for me, they walk out in a good mood and they feel like I really know my stuff.

I’ll use some other things from time to time, just to customize for different clients, but that should give you a start. Good luck.

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**Author:** ![stud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stud)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/11 "2009-01-21T00:17:55Z")

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Elevation

ok, I’m thinking I will use IFM, honesty and shine.

If it was you would you use the three in equal amounts or would you, say, lean toward using more IFM or shine. give me a sample example of how you might use the three if you were in a spa setting. How many sprays of each.

Thanks for your help i really appreciate it.

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**Author:** ![Elevation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a8b319/32.png) [@Elevation](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Elevation)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/12 "2009-01-21T15:40:19Z")

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Everyone’s sweet spot with the number of sprays is a little different. For me, I need 3 sprays of Shine to get hits, and 2 of IFM & IH.

Typically the best strategy is to start with one spray of each phero and then work your way up till you find the best amount. 1-3 sprays does it for most people. I would start with IH since it’ll be easiest to tell the hits from that.

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**Author:** ![stud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stud)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/13 "2009-01-21T21:19:00Z")

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Elevation

Thank-you!

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**Author:** ![stud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@stud](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stud)\
**Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-and-salutations-from-a-massage-therapist/2572/14 "2009-01-21T21:22:37Z")

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Elevation

If you ever come up with something even more totally fantastic in this area----pass it along.
