# Greetings from california **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [June 24, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921 "2011-06-24T21:59:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![upar721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b19c9b/32.png) [@upar721](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/upar721)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/1 "2011-06-24T21:59:44Z")
Hey, I’m Alan, 19 from southern california I always wanted to attract women in my life so i tried everything from ebooks, audiotapes and just plain approaching, but i have failed at that so I want to expriment with [pheromones](https://a314.com/) to see if it I will have an improvement in my game. I’m a pheromone skeptic; one day I came across an ad on the internet called ‘pherozone’ , but when i saw the price of the product it was expensive and wasn’t sure if it will have any results.. I looked around for some bargains on eBay, they had some cheap pheromones, but im still wasn’t sure if it worked. So I searched on the internet for “pheromone forums”, “pheromones reviews” i came accross the website which has reviews for most of the pheromones on the internet which was pretty cool. anyone have any suggestions for pheromones? for attracting women and keeping a conversation? ---
**Author:** ![extraballislit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/extraballislit/32/712_2.png) [@extraballislit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/extraballislit)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/2 "2011-06-24T22:57:10Z")
Hi, Upar! I´m a newbie too. Only been using mones for about 8 weeks now, but will try to give you some advice. I guess the fast answer would be: Sure, man. Get yourself some AMMo and some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). However, not really sure if an androstenone based product like AMMO is what you nedd at 19. I guess you should take the longer road, do some research, and ask some questions to more advanced users . If i were you, i would try to find as many users as posible who are in your age range and read their journals. Also, there are some useful threads that you should read: [An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003) [The Snook’s big book o’ pheros for rookies](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-snooks-big-book-o-pheros-for-rookies/5879) Also, Steve´s classic: [How to find your sweet spot…](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146) It´s really a must. I´d also suggest you to read this [How do I qualify for a $25 gift certificate?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) if you want one. It´s 25$ worth of free product on the store. Sounds good, doesn´t it? Hope this helps. Good luck and welcome! talk to you soon. ---
**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/3 "2011-06-25T03:28:07Z")
Hey, Upar! Welcome to the forum! I agree with what Extra has said, with one caveat: pheromones are not some magic potion. They are designed to enhance you, just like clothing, good grooming, and cologne. Let’s explain it like this: Say you take a homeless guy right off the street. He’s a drunk, an addict, and he’s filthy. You strip him and dress him in an outfit right out of the pages of GQ. He’s still gonna look (and smell) like a homeless, drunk, filthy addict, only in a GQ outfit. You clean him up, detox him, and dress him in clean, torn jeans and a t-shirt - that FIT WELL - and suddenly he might just be the next male supermodel. The term we use on the board here is “congruence.” The difference in my two examples is a matter of congruence. In the first example, the guy is not remotely congruent with his outfit. In the second, the guy is BETTER THAN his outfit, but still stylin’, if casually. Mones are like that. You can douse yourself in pheromones (which do work, btw, if you get hold of the real thing) and if you go out to a club, sit in the corner and sulk, waiting for a girl to come to you, you’ll leave alone. But if you go in with a smile, open and friendly, wearing a reasonable amount of mones (and yes, at your age there are some that you shouldn’t overdo, bc you’re making enough of your own), you’ll likely have several ladies sitting up and taking notice. Pay attention, respond appropriately to that notice, and you’ll have one or more companions. Make sense? ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/4 "2011-06-25T15:04:56Z")
> [@upar721](#): > > Hey, > > I’m Alan, 19 from southern california I always wanted to attract women in my life so i tried everything from ebooks, audiotapes and just plain approaching, but i have failed at that so I want to expriment with pheromones to see if it I will have an improvement in my game. I’m a pheromone skeptic; one day I came across an ad on the internet called ‘pherozone’ , but when i saw the price of the product it was expensive and wasn’t sure if it will have any results.. I looked around for some bargains on eBay, they had some cheap pheromones, but im still wasn’t sure if it worked. > So I searched on the internet for “pheromone forums”, “pheromones reviews” i came accross the website which has reviews for most of the pheromones on the internet which was pretty cool. > > anyone have any suggestions for pheromones? > for attracting women > and keeping a conversation? Hi there Alan, i found out that the most of the PU-stuff does not work too ! some of them require long studies . … some of them force you into somewhat masochistic behaviour approaching innumerous women .. just to get slapped .. I´m not an expert for all PU-Tactics .. I´m mostly into Speed Seduction and make Body language working .. picking up IOI´s and approach invitations … flirtatious behaviour .. you know I do not know what will fit you best .. simply do what you feel most comfortable with and what is fun for you ! maybe you will give Steve a call ( i´m sure you have him already on your friend list ) as he´s an expert in PU - stuff .. or i´m sure that Radman will help you concerning your Game as well ( PM him he´s a really nice person ) I know most mones out there are not reasonable priced and what you get is mostly not only worth the shipping costs .. As there´s so much scam out there do you have the chance to try out mones here for a few bucks so that you can see that they are working .. i speak about the togo sized ones .. Androtics offers you a nice 25$ GC for a good introductory post and simply follow the link at Extra´s post to know how to grab it ! Pago ---
**Author:** ![upar721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b19c9b/32.png) [@upar721](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/upar721)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/5 "2011-06-26T03:04:23Z")
> [@Boudicca](#): > > Hey, Upar! Welcome to the forum! > > I agree with what Extra has said, with one caveat: pheromones are not some magic potion. They are designed to enhance you, just like clothing, good grooming, and cologne. > > Let’s explain it like this: Say you take a homeless guy right off the street. He’s a drunk, an addict, and he’s filthy. You strip him and dress him in an outfit right out of the pages of GQ. > > He’s still gonna look (and smell) like a homeless, drunk, filthy addict, only in a GQ outfit. > > You clean him up, detox him, and dress him in clean, torn jeans and a t-shirt - that FIT WELL - and suddenly he might just be the next male supermodel. > > The term we use on the board here is “congruence.” The difference in my two examples is a matter of congruence. In the first example, the guy is not remotely congruent with his outfit. In the second, the guy is BETTER THAN his outfit, but still stylin’, if casually. Mones are like that. > > You can douse yourself in pheromones (which do work, btw, if you get hold of the real thing) and if you go out to a club, sit in the corner and sulk, waiting for a girl to come to you, you’ll leave alone. But if you go in with a smile, open and friendly, wearing a reasonable amount of mones (and yes, at your age there are some that you shouldn’t overdo, bc you’re making enough of your own), you’ll likely have several ladies sitting up and taking notice. Pay attention, respond appropriately to that notice, and you’ll have one or more companions. > > Make sense? yeah I guess your right about the congruence part.. i suppose i should try out the pheromones and work on my inner game at the same time 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Boudicca](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boudicca/32/5171_2.png) [@Boudicca](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Boudicca)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/6 "2011-06-26T03:12:24Z")
Don’t get me wrong, hon. I’m not putting you down. I AM saying that the mones will only get you so far, and then the rest of it - yes, does have to come from inside. Mind (and a lot of the men on the board disagree with me on this), if you’re looking for something long-term, then your “game” should also be congruent with YOU - that is, you can’t be putting on an act, a persona that isn’t awfully close to who you really are. If you’re looking for short-term, nm, lol. ---
**Author:** ![upar721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b19c9b/32.png) [@upar721](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/upar721)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 5:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/7 "2011-06-27T05:09:35Z")
> [@Boudicca](#): > > Don’t get me wrong, hon. I’m not putting you down. I AM saying that the mones will only get you so far, and then the rest of it - yes, does have to come from inside. > > Mind (and a lot of the men on the board disagree with me on this), if you’re looking for something long-term, then your “game” should also be congruent with YOU - that is, you can’t be putting on an act, a persona that isn’t awfully close to who you really are. > > If you’re looking for short-term, nm, lol. Short term 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/8 "2011-06-27T19:18:37Z")
Welcome to pherotalk Upar! You received some great advise and I think you already placed your order. You are very young and already producing a good amount of pheromones naturally so the social products is a great start. My brother used pheromones at 17 so ammunition will work well for you. I am not a big fan of PUA but from reading and talking to the different men on this forum it is a technique to get to know women better and to pick them up but you can use the info , what you want from it to fit you. Boudicca’s e.g was brilliant. Just like the mones, some persons use these mones just to get laid, others to deceive others to better themselves and even men have used these to save their marriage. Nothing is bad in itself , knowledge is power use it with a good intentions. **Your gc was issued! 😉** ---
**Author:** ![Terpines](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@Terpines](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Terpines)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-california/50921/9 "2011-06-27T23:29:22Z")
Another Californian my age, welcome aboard! You’ll soon come to realize that pheromones are great for pick-up and breaking the ice. It’s like bringing out what she sees in you from the get-go.