# Greetings from London :) **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [September 28, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865 "2012-09-28T13:06:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DenoDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@DenoDude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DenoDude)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/1 "2012-09-28T13:06:55Z")
Hello everyone, I am a 21 year old guy currently studying in London and have been introduced to pheromones by a friend of mine. I’ve heard some good stories and am really looking forward to trying them myself! I am interested in meeting women at parties, but also bars or social house parties. From my knowledge of browsing the forums, I will try Ammunition which gives a non-overwhelming attraction along with [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) to put girls at ease. I understand pretty much what every pheromone does, except for InstantJerk. Could someone please explain to me in what occasions is it used and how it is different from say TUTH? Also, what are the effects of it compared to say TUTH? I am quite nice, and not all that ‘masculine’ (I have a smaller physique, and my eye brows are further from my eyes unlike someone with more testosterone). So would InstantJerk be for me? Should I combine InstantJerk with InstantShine or Ammunition? Or both? Greatly appreciate any replies. Can’t wait to try them out and report on my findings! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/2 "2012-09-28T15:43:22Z")
TUTH is a dose of approx 2.5mcg Androstenone per spray steered towards highly sexual. IJ contains **five** times the amount of Androstenone and it is steered more in the direction of a confrontational and abrasive personality. TUTH is very overtly horny and best used with an existing partner or when you are very close to bed with someone, or around more mature women who are more tuned-in to an overt signature. You use IJ when you want to let your inner bastard out to play and you do need to play that role alongside it - which is fairly easy as that much none will likely make you feel like a right cunt. Expect it to alienate far more people than it attracts but when you do meet someone who responds well to IJ - Its going to be a bit wild! Oh and expect other guys to want to start fights with you. That’s what an OD of none can do to them - trigger aggression. Don’t waste your time trying to steer IJ with anything other than high dose A314 to compound its effects, or A1. This one keeps close company and is often best on its own. The discrepancies in dose between IJ and almost every other phero mean you would need vast quantities to offset it and you would lose its vibe along the way. And you certainly don’t want to be adding more none from [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) to it! 😮 Personally, I’d say that whilst IJ is a very worthwile phero experience, you are best to leave it till you have got the hang of the less extreme pheros. Don’t do as I did and bung-on a couple of sprays and go to one of the roughest bars in town. It was less than 20 minutes before folk were starting on me! ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2012, 8:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/3 "2012-09-28T20:24:07Z")
London, I wanna go there! QQ Welcome man 🙂 Enjoy your stay! Like that introduction. ---
**Author:** ![DenoDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@DenoDude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DenoDude)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/4 "2012-09-29T04:35:26Z")
Thank you! for the greeting as well 🙂 So basically IJ has the same effect as spraying TUTH like 3-5 times? I guess it’ll work well if you know that a girl is really attracted to douche bags? I’d order the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) more often, but I don’t get why the postage is so high! 20$… surely it doesn’t cost that much to send an envelope weighing 300 grams? Don’t Androtics have any resells in Europe? Surely it would just take a guy or two to receive large shipments and send them out individually… even on eBay (which is very popular in the UK). I would seriously recommend that, because people can then order a new bottle they haven’t tried, or order ToGo sizes each month without having to be put off by the 50% extra cost. It seems like pheromones would be very popular among students, and they certainly can’t afford buying all bottles all at once! Just a suggestion, but an UK eBay or Amazon store would be great! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2012, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/5 "2012-09-29T05:03:57Z")
No. TUTH and IJ are very different, even if you dose-up TUTH to the same level. As well as androstenone as the primary component, they both contain other pheros to steer them in different directions. Sexual for TUTH and “jerk like” for IJ. These pheros are not normally disclosed. Delivery/USPS issues have been done to death already - Just take our word for it that they are sick of USPS problems and AD’s DHL to Europe knocks-spots of any other phero sellers, including UK and EU-based firms! Who can all take anything up to weeks to deliver and the cost doesn’t seem so bad when you consider that DHL seems only very rarely hit by customs charges, compared to other firms using USPS/FEDEX who seem to get hit by an approx eighteen quid charge every time. Whilst it might be possible for AD to have an EU reseller for consumer products, I don’t think they deal in very large batches of any product to begin with and I seriously doubt they would be willing to let the formulas/details of MX and Putative products into the hands of a third party, never mind that these are often very limited batches or even made-up to order. Quality of customer service is another issue and they do take that very seriously indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/6 "2012-10-02T15:43:53Z")
Welcome Deno, Mobo as usual hit the nail on the head leaving me with no much to say. I am looking forward to hearing more about your experiences once you get started **Your gc was issued!** ---
**Author:** ![DenoDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@DenoDude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DenoDude)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/7 "2012-10-03T05:19:19Z")
Well I must say the shipping was indeed incredibly fast; arrived in 3 days! I’ve also received a free [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) gift which is nice 🙂 I have no idea what it does though, could anyone please shed some light? It’s not on the website either. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 5:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-london/56865/8 "2012-10-03T05:43:38Z")
There are many threads about [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) in Mens. More or less, the best way to approach a P or MX is to start testing it blind and report what you find. And with P75, Start low!