# Greetings from The Big Apple **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [April 16, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903 "2011-04-16T07:08:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pat83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pat83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pat83)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/1 "2011-04-16T07:08:33Z")
Hello everyone, greetings from the big apple. I want to let everyone knows about my background before asking questions and starts this journey. (I modeled my intro on proa\_p’s intro as we seem to have similar personality and situations) **Who I am:** - I’m a 27 y/o man. - I’m of East Asian descent. - I have a stable office job that pays half-decently so I am thinking about going back to school to get a masters. - I’m average height among Americans - I’m consider myself slightly better looking than most Asian male but I do not know how that compares with white male. (I am very open about race and would not be offended if people bring it up. I am here to seek answers and would like everyone to be blunt with me. e.g., for Asian guy, some product might be more or less suitable) **My personality/History:** - When I was young I was rather shy. I still have quite a number of friends because in a school setting friendship with classmates comes naturally. I never managed to make friends with people outside the school/cram-school circle however. - I know I am shy so I have forced myself to work as receptionist while in college and take classes that requires lots of presentation and communication. It helped a lot. Now, most people would say I am more open and friendly than others as I am often the first few to greet new co-workers. (I haven’t been a receptionist for 4 years) - When I go to a social gathering with friends I would usually stay close to the group and rarely mingle with strangers. I have made concerned effort to change that but usually I just chitchat and cannot seem to be able to advance that relationship further (with both sexes in professional and casual settings). It seems my change is not deep enough. - Generally, in a new place, I prefer to be quiet, listening and learning and, only just when I feel comfortable enough, I start to talk which gave some people the impression I am quiet. - I am rather intelligent and because I always listen first, I handle myself well in a business setting. But, when it comes to the women, they either thinks I am an encyclopedia or just not interesting. I just have a few friends (both sexes) that really know me and understand me. - I walk fast and quite conscious of the way I move so people think I’m a nervous person. I am not nervous while walking, I just don’t like swinging my arms more than necessary (like that makes sense) - Smart girls tend to find me non-boring as I can gave insight on a wide variety of topic but few matches my personality. **Fears/Hopes/Questions** (parts copied directly from proa\_p’s) - I hope the mones are the solution to help me improve my social skills with men and women outside my professional life. - Is long term usage of [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) health? Prolong use of certain drug often cause the body to loss its natural ability to product certain chemical **So why am I here?** 1. Some close friends says I don’t seem to give off the right vibe. Maybe pheromone is part of the vibe? 2. I want to up my game and gain an advantage over Joe. I am not trying to be a sex god but I realized the available pool is shrinking and would like to have a higher “hit” rate ---
**Author:** ![Taggle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taggle/32/1793_2.png) [@Taggle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taggle)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 7:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/2 "2011-04-16T07:37:31Z")
Hi Pat 🙂 I’m a newbie too, and only just started using the products, but WOW! My daughters grandmom who always seemed to hate me, now treats me like a friend 😮 Thank you IS 😃 I’ve had social problems too, so I guess I know how it feels, and even if the mones does not change these problems by them self, they might be the kicker to get you out of the shell 🙂 How is your experience with girls? I know you say smart girls like you, but is that in a “friendszone” kinda way? Because mones can definitely kick you out of that 😃 Hope you enjoy the forum, they are really helpful even with things not concerning mones! ---
**Author:** ![Ninja87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8edcca/32.png) [@Ninja87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ninja87)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/3 "2011-04-16T07:56:54Z")
Welcome pat Awesome intro i new to mones myself but i would recommed some ammo,IS and IO to help out bring u out of ur shell to new ppl and to make them feel comfortable around u and come finding a better interest in u buy u have to remember mones are not going to do the work for u… They are more of an enhacement of oneself… If u dont get out to try and meet these ppl they wont fall into ur lap wanteing a relationship with u… Good luck and when u do order ur mones make sure to keep us updated… Once again welcome and if u have questions u can always ask me or try the forums… ---
**Author:** ![Pat83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pat83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pat83)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 3:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/4 "2011-04-17T03:31:10Z")
> [@Taggle](#): > > Hi Pat 🙂 > … > How is your experience with girls? I know you say smart girls like you, but is that in a “friendszone” kinda way? Because mones can definitely kick you out of that 😃… Thanks for the warm welcome Taggle. Smart girls are easier for me to talk to and get to know because they can carry on a conversation with me. I have a wide variety of interest but I’ve been told that’s not very common; most people have fewer interest. I can still carry on a conversation with someone that I have little in common with but I have to make an effort to keep asking question. After a while it just get tiring. I have only met two girls that can easily carry on a conversation with me on multiple topic and they are the pimary reason why I decided to join PheroTalk. ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/5 "2011-04-17T04:56:20Z")
Hiya Pat83 and welcome to the forum! Love the intro, clear and to the point! If your looking for the right vibe, yes, you can build it with the right mone… 🙂 However, you will still need to present your personality and attitude in congruence with that vibe. I mean, If you spray a Lamp with IO, people won’t be inclined to talk to it… 😛 So, you’ll need to work at it as well. The mones are your support team… but YOU are the team… There are several thread on race and working hypothesis that user’s apply. You project a calm and level headed feeling through your post and I think that AMMO will underline that as well as provide a sexually inclined vibe. I use AMMO during the day or night and really, can be steered to be more of a sexually confident male here or inclined to a more sexy guy vibe… You do the driving… For helping you get through those conversations and others to open up with ease, I’d suggest IH. You can use them seperately, and I’d recommend it, then, once you see how they work on you and those around you, then, combo them up. Steve O’s intro to mones on my sig below will help give you a better handle on how to use the mones you do get. Wish you well! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Taggle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taggle/32/1793_2.png) [@Taggle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taggle)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/6 "2011-04-17T21:36:25Z")
> [@Pat83](#): > > Thanks for the warm welcome Taggle. > > Smart girls are easier for me to talk to and get to know because they can carry on a conversation with me. I have a wide variety of interest but I’ve been told that’s not very common; most people have fewer interest. I can still carry on a conversation with someone that I have little in common with but I have to make an effort to keep asking question. After a while it just get tiring. > > I have only met two girls that can easily carry on a conversation with me on multiple topic and they are the pimary reason why I decided to join PheroTalk. You do know IO or IH are not gonna make the other girls smarter and more versatile right…? I think I’m somehow misunderstanding you 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pat83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pat83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pat83)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/7 "2011-04-18T02:34:22Z")
> [@Taggle](#): > > You do know IO or IH are not gonna make the other girls smarter and more versatile right…? I think I’m somehow misunderstanding you 🙂 No. I am not trying to make other girls smarter or share my interest / hobby (nothing sinister; history, architecture, geopolitics and photography). I am going after the second smart girl I talked about. After I lost my chance with the 1st smart girl I thought I will never meet another like her. I was wrong, the 2nd girl is as perfect as the 1st one. I rushed into things with the 1st girl and totally screwed it up. I am here because I want to have the best chance with the 2nd girl. She might be my last chance as it took me 3 years to run into her after the 1st girl. ---
**Author:** ![Pat83](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71e660/32.png) [@Pat83](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pat83)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/8 "2011-04-18T03:05:43Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Hiya Pat83 and welcome to the forum! Love the intro, clear and to the point! > > If your looking for the right vibe, yes, you can build it with the right mone… 🙂 > However, you will still need to present your personality and attitude in congruence with that vibe. I mean, If you spray a Lamp with IO, people won’t be inclined to talk to it… 😛 So, you’ll need to work at it as well. The mones are your support team… but YOU are the team… > There are several thread on race and working hypothesis that user’s apply. > You project a calm and level headed feeling through your post and I think that AMMO will underline that as well as provide a sexually inclined vibe. I use AMMO during the day or night and really, can be steered to be more of a sexually confident male here or inclined to a more sexy guy vibe… You do the driving… For helping you get through those conversations and others to open up with ease, I’d suggest IH. You can use them seperately, and I’d recommend it, then, once you see how they work on you and those around you, then, combo them up. > Steve O’s intro to mones on my sig below will help give you a better handle on how to use the mones you do get. > > Wish you well! 🙂 Approaching my target girl is not a problem nor is talking to her. I’ve spend something like 20 hours over the past three weeks talking to her at work. I don’t mean chatting while surfing the web or processing cases. We stood in our cube, put work on hold and really talked. We’ve learned so much about each other, from our blood type to I like saving money just like her father. The situation, however, is kinda sticky so I am turning to pheromone to enhance what she already know about me. I don’t expect quick result and I plan to spend a few years pursing her. I have already been working on a self-improvement program for the last few years and meeting her won’t really change that. We are both thinking about grad school; I hit the gym regularly and she needs to do that same because she has already paid for membership; I am learning a new language that’s her minor in college. My personality and attitude will probably never be those of an Alpha male. I am aiming to be a respected guy that knows what he is talking about and cares about those around him. Pheromone will just project who I am and get me pass the friend to more than friend stage with this girl. ---
**Author:** ![Taggle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/taggle/32/1793_2.png) [@Taggle](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Taggle)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/9 "2011-04-18T11:46:23Z")
> [@Pat83](#): > > Approaching my target girl is not a problem nor is talking to her. I’ve spend something like 20 hours over the past three weeks talking to her at work. I don’t mean chatting while surfing the web or processing cases. We stood in our cube, put work on hold and really talked. We’ve learned so much about each other, from our blood type to I like saving money just like her father. > > The situation, however, is kinda sticky so I am turning to pheromone to enhance what she already know about me. I don’t expect quick result and I plan to spend a few years pursing her. > > I have already been working on a self-improvement program for the last few years and meeting her won’t really change that. We are both thinking about grad school; I hit the gym regularly and she needs to do that same because she has already paid for membership; I am learning a new language that’s her minor in college. > > My personality and attitude will probably never be those of an Alpha male. I am aiming to be a respected guy that knows what he is talking about and cares about those around him. Pheromone will just project who I am and get me pass the friend to more than friend stage with this girl. As I told you earlier I’m not an expert, but I think something like IH might be a bad idea for this particular situation, where it might push you further into the friendzone. You definitely need some sexyvibe going for you, so she becomes a girlfriend not a girl that is your friend 🙂 I would hit the “mens room” and ask around. As far as I’ve read they have things like “Instant gentleman” and “Insant make girls horny”-something something 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-from-the-big-apple/49903/10 "2011-04-18T18:53:23Z")
Welcome to Pherotalk Pat83! The products already mentioned are great and I would add Instant gentleman to the mix to give off that mysterious, cool dude who know what he is about especially for work. The guys will be a huge help and guide when it comes to using your [pheromones](https://a314.com/) and becoming more socially popular. I suggest you use your social products first one by one to know what each does then you can start mixing and combos. Eventually with the mones and advice you will start to see some huge changes. Good luck with everything. **Your gc was issued! 🙂**