# Greetings pheromonians **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [May 7, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754 "2009-05-07T16:09:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/1 "2009-05-07T16:09:33Z")
Heya guys..! Jason here, ive always been interesting in the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) world… just got thru reading themens pheromone guide.. probably a noob question, but what is OD? im 33 years old , have always been “decent” with women. im introverted by nature, but more outgoing and open once i know a person. i believe id need something for openness and trust/respect to start off with, nothing complicated as this will be a first time trying for me.. why is the A314 the best seller, yet the guide says hardest to learn? this community seems quite interesting, im looking forward to sharing ideas and knowledge with you all Regards ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/2 "2009-05-07T16:19:52Z")
Greetings, human. For openness, try io or ih. For trust and respect try a314. However, a314 may slightly increase distance, especially for those who might think they’re “not good enough.” OD happens mostly with anone products, and can result in people ignoring you or getting anngry and agressive if you wear too much. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/3 "2009-05-07T16:23:39Z")
Hello Jason and welcome to the forum. OD means overdose refering to too much 'none - the pheromone that signals “I am a man”. OD reacts from other people can range from mild irritation for both men and women, to women running away, to some men becoming verbally and in extreme cases physically aggressive. A314 is very complex and gives you a strong alpha leader signature. However, if you do not live up to the behaviors of a strong leader people will ignore the phero signature and treat you however. It also creates waht I call respect distance. People will give you a lot of room sometimes out of repsect. I pair it with IH to help generate feelings of connection. An alternative to A314 is [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). There is a thread in my signature block that talks about the two. Give it a read and then ask any questions you might have. ---
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/4 "2009-05-07T16:38:41Z")
thanks so much for the quick replies guys… ive got some reading to do, but ill be back with some questions for sure ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/5 "2009-05-07T16:49:57Z")
We will be here. Post the question or send a PM. ---
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/6 "2009-05-07T17:36:29Z")
when you make a login on the forums is it transferred to the smartmones database…or do yopu have to make a separate account ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/7 "2009-05-07T17:42:49Z")
> [@jchakra](#): > > when you make a login on the forums is it transferred to the smartmones database…or do yopu have to make a separate account Its a separate account 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/8 "2009-05-07T17:43:54Z")
> [@jchakra](#): > > when you make a login on the forums is it transferred to the smartmones database…or do yopu have to make a separate account Welcome to the forum jchakra! Smartmones and Pherotalk are separate. The store where you can buy the phero’s is Smartmones, but the PheroTalk forum isn’t really a Smartmone forum. It’s a forum where you can discuss phero’s in general, including those from other websites/stores. Yes, most of us here on the forum use Smartmones/Androtics products, but not exclusively…we also use others that we report on and chat about here on the forum 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/9 "2009-05-07T18:06:26Z")
Sillykitty and Xiphoid, thanks for clarifying… it looks like im going to try out the [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and or the Instant Honesty or the Instant Shine, maybe the Instant Gentlemen would anyone recommend the Ammo for the “beginner”, per say? id like to add more confidence booting, as i have slight approach anxiety… but i believe i have enough alpha to back it up once i get rolling ---
**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/10 "2009-05-07T18:14:21Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and openness. I actualy thinned mine out 2:1 with my cologne, since there are a few ingredients in Ammo that will stick around and accumulate, even after a shower, which will eventually lead to an overdose, if you keep applying it day in and out. I like instant gentleman, it makes me more able to say what’s on my mind without feeling embarassed about it. if I wear ammo or some heavy none like TUTH, I say whats on my mind, but dont care about the reactions. one is confident, the other, cocky. ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/11 "2009-05-07T18:16:45Z")
> [@jchakra](#): > > Sillykitty and Xiphoid, thanks for clarifying… > > it looks like im going to try out the Instant Openness and or the Instant Honesty or the Instant Shine, maybe the Instant Gentlemen > > would anyone recommend the Ammo for the “beginner”, per say? > > id like to add more confidence booting, as i have slight approach anxiety… > but i believe i have enough alpha to back it up once i get rolling Absolutely! Ammo is a great all around product that will give both your confidence and your sex appeal a boost. It is one of the most popular products here, and can safely be worn in any situation. If you have “approach anxiety”, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) would be a good one for you, as it greatly facilitates conversation and gets it going (and in some cases, gets it going too much, lol). ---
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/12 "2009-05-07T20:03:53Z")
> [@TheCentaur](#): > > Ammo and openness. I actualy thinned mine out 2:1 with my cologne, since there are a few ingredients in Ammo that will stick around and accumulate, even after a shower, which will eventually lead to an overdose, if you keep applying it day in and out. > > I like instant gentleman, it makes me more able to say what’s on my mind without feeling embarassed about it. if I wear ammo or some heavy none like TUTH, I say whats on my mind, but dont care about the reactions. one is confident, the other, cocky. heya centaur, so when you thinned it out, was it the ammo and openness together? or just the ammo that was thinned.. im just going to have to get some and jump in and see for myself how the effects will be for me ---
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/13 "2009-05-07T20:05:17Z")
> [@Sillykitty](#): > > Absolutely! > > Ammo is a great all around product that will give both your confidence and your sex appeal a boost. It is one of the most popular products here, and can safely be worn in any situation. > > If you have “approach anxiety”, Instant Openness would be a good one for you, as it greatly facilitates conversation and gets it going (and in some cases, gets it going too much, lol). that sounds like a good and simple starting point…ammo and openness by the way, your avatar is pretty slick, did you make it yourself? ---
**Author:** ![Sillykitty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sillykitty/32/1574_2.png) [@Sillykitty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sillykitty)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/14 "2009-05-07T20:10:51Z")
> [@jchakra](#): > > that sounds like a good and simple starting point…ammo and openness > > by the way, your avatar is pretty slick, did you make it yourself? Yes, just keep it simple for now. Once you are comfortable with the effects and how to use them to your best advantage, then you can start thinking of other things, if you feel like it. As for thinning them out, I would just wait and see how they work for you. Everyone is different, some people are more sensitive to things than others. Thanks for the compliment! No, I didn’t make it myself, I actually found it on the internet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/15 "2009-05-07T20:21:07Z")
> [@jchakra](#): > > heya centaur, > > so when you thinned it out, was it the ammo and openness together? or just the ammo that was thinned.. > > im just going to have to get some and jump in and see for myself how the effects will be for me it is best to test them ‘out of the box’ first. I thinned ammo, because my initial intent was to see if the scents were compatible with my wife’s favorite cologne on me. Ammo V1.0 is easily mixed, and since all i had was a to-go of it, I thinned it for extra mileage :-). if they made an unscented version, I’d be all over it. I hear you can mix a batch with equal amounts androstenol, androstenone, and androstarone. but don’t take my word for it. I’ve always liked the smell of instant openness on its own. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/16 "2009-05-07T22:25:19Z")
Jchakra, at 33 you have much less to worry about when it comes to -none. One, you produce less already than someone under say 25. Two and more importantly, you have a lot more experience in social situations than a college age kid. AMMO is a great product, get the regular strength version to start and don’t fear the -none. -None OD can happen but unless you are really reckless or have a naturally ‘hot’ personality, you’ll be fine. Welcome to the world of pheromonians. LOL ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/17 "2009-05-08T01:08:32Z")
Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂 Yes AMMO is a great all round product to start out with. I do suggest you look at Ishine and IO as well. They have to-go size so you can get 2 free with your GC. A314 is the top seller because it works. It just takes a little experimentation and a willingness to lead to get the best effectiveness from it. > [@](#): > > it is best to test them ‘out of the box’ first. I thinned ammo, because my initial intent was to see if the scents were compatible with my wife’s favorite cologne on me. Ammo V1.0 is easily mixed, and since all i had was a to-go of it, I thinned it for extra mileage :-). **if they made an unscented version,** I’d be all over it. I hear you can mix a batch with equal amounts androstenol, androstenone, and androstarone. but don’t take my word for it. They do make a unscented version but of course that dosnt mean it has no scent. You will smell the mones. Keep in mind the scent is part of how the product works. This is wear the binders are the bind the mone molecules to the scent so it can diffuse from the body. I don’t suggest getting unscented but you can always get it in light neroli. I also do not suggest diluting, thinning it or mixing in a bottle with anything. It throws the ratio of mones off and makes it less effective. Doing this also voids your guarantee. You can layer with other products or cologne. If you have any questions just ask. **Your GC is on its way**. Tisha Hostess/Guest ---
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/18 "2009-05-08T16:35:29Z")
awesome! thanks tisha… but i dont see it anywhere in my email… was it sent successfully? ---
**Author:** ![jchakra](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jchakra/32/1393_2.png) [@jchakra](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jchakra)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/19 "2009-05-08T18:59:23Z")
I just ordered some IO, AMMO/M, IShine, and IH didnt have the patience to wait on tisha to give up the gc, hopefully ill still receive and use it for later i cant wait to experiment… ill be posting my findings when i get them ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/greetings-pheromonians/28754/20 "2009-05-08T22:55:11Z")
Its probably in your spam box since you have one of the email services we have that trouble with. I sent you a PM with your code just in case. Tisha