# guys/lady's I need help ASAP pls :)

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [February 12, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020 "2009-02-12T22:17:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/1 "2009-02-12T22:17:58Z")

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Okay I have a very important date tonight and I want everything to be perfect…this girl means lot to me so if anyone has a good suggestion please don’t hold back I listed everything I have so ya. if you all need more info ask.

AMMO  
IS  
CTTM 2  
IFM  
IJ  
IO  
IH  
TUTH  
[P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)  
IG  
A314

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/2 "2009-02-12T22:19:46Z")

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I believe this is Diamond’s magic mix 🙄  
\*Ammo  
\*IFM  
\*IH

The ammo to draw her in,the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) makes her relax and feel comfortable in your presence and the Instant Honesty gives her the ‘permission’ to act on her feelings.

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/3 "2009-02-12T22:26:41Z")

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so how many sprays and locations ?

btw thanks for helping

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/4 "2009-02-12T22:27:01Z")

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[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) + Turn Up The heat

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/5 "2009-02-12T22:40:07Z")

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> [@denec](#):
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> Instant Honesty + Turn Up The heat

TUTH on a date with a girl he says means alot to him? You sure that’s not a bit full on? Don’t want to put her off by thinking he’s just looking to get into her pants 🙄

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**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/6 "2009-02-12T22:43:07Z")

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> [@dss](#):
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> so how many sprays and locations ?
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> btw thanks for helping

Diamond is 36…his doses are likely to be different to yours… How many sprays do you normally use?

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**Author:** ![denec](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/denec/32/1730_2.png) [@denec](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/denec)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/7 "2009-02-12T22:43:52Z")

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> [@Xiphoid](#):
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> TUTH on a date with a girl he says means alot to him? You sure that’s not a bit full on? Don’t want to put her off by thinking he’s just looking to get into her pants 🙄

Yep you got a good social buffer and get her to open up with some good conversation with some none..and is great for a romantic evening..works for me, obviously don’t go crazy on the sprays on TUTH

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/8 "2009-02-12T22:45:24Z")

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Can you tell us about her a little. Is shy or outgoing ? Is this your first date or have you been out before ? Does she have a comfort level with you already ?

Tisha

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/9 "2009-02-12T22:46:40Z")

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> [@Xiphoid](#):
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> I believe this is Diamond’s magic mix 🙄  
> \*Ammo  
> \*IFM  
> \*IH
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> The ammo to draw her in,the Instant Female Magic makes her relax and feel comfortable in your presence and the Instant Honesty gives her the ‘permission’ to act on her feelings.

dss, try 3 IH, 2 IFM, and 1 [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). Especially if this is a first date, the IH and IFM will go a long ways in helping the conversation and connection. And, the 1 spray of Ammo along w/ your natural output of androstenone is probably enough for a first date, particularly if you want to just keep it on a social level for the time being.😉

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/10 "2009-02-12T22:47:08Z")

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first date/first time meeting her she is a little shy and holds back from what I can tell.

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/11 "2009-02-12T22:47:19Z")

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Watchout with the IFM… if it is a downer to DSS (I don’t know) then it’s probably not good for a first date (where you need to be more lively)… perhaps [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) would be required

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/12 "2009-02-12T22:50:07Z")

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Okay so lets 3 spray of IH around neck area and cover with one or two shots of AMMO and 3 spray of IFM back of neck and cover with two shot of IS and one shot of IS on my face for self effect…?

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**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/13 "2009-02-12T22:51:02Z")

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I think it sounds good… Mostly socials so it couldn’t REALLY go wrong heh

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/14 "2009-02-12T22:51:30Z")

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I would go with River and Xiphoid’s suggestion but maybe add one spray of Ishine for some upbeat charisma. Wear IFM to the back of your neck.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/15 "2009-02-12T23:09:27Z")

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My magic mix isn’t anything special or complex but it is pretty heavy. 2 ammo, 2 Instant Female magic, 5 [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and 6 Instant Shine. Obviously everyone is different but if I was in your shoes this would be what I’d wear.

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**Author:** ![dss](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@dss](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dss)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/16 "2009-02-13T00:36:40Z")

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so your saying I should use IO over IH ? why ?

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**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/17 "2009-02-13T00:55:53Z")

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I think Honesty over Openness, for the deeper talk and connection.

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/18 "2009-02-13T02:53:44Z")

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I believe this is Diamond’s magic mix 🙄  
\*Ammo  
\*IFM  
\*IH

Why do you ladies think that IS would not work well in this mix? Just wondering.

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**Author:** ![jessejester](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jessejester/32/1683_2.png) [@jessejester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jessejester)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/19 "2009-02-13T03:12:54Z")

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[quote=“Xiphoid”]

I believe this is Diamond’s magic mix 🙄  
\*Ammo  
\*IFM  
\*IH

Why do you ladies think IS would be bad in this mix? Just wondering.

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**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2009, 4:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-ladys-i-need-help-asap-pls/26020/20 "2009-02-13T04:07:43Z")

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[quote=“jessejester”]

> [@Xiphoid](#):
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> I believe this is Diamond’s magic mix 🙄  
> \*Ammo  
> \*IFM  
> \*IH
> 
> Why do you ladies think IS would be bad in this mix? Just wondering.

I can’t think of ANY combo or situation where Shine WOULDN’T be good…but then again…I’m a Shine Junkie!😛🙄😃

Don’t know how I forgot to add that to the combo suggestion:o Definitely my bad.

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