# Guy's pheromone experiences & observations **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [May 16, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688 "2008-05-16T01:24:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/1 "2008-05-16T01:24:10Z")
Hi everyone, I’m completely new to pheromones. I’ve tested Ammo and IShine a few times and seen some great results already, but so far this is just an introduction to what will eventually become a good, comprehensive journal of my experiences with different products. First of all, I want to thank the Androtics staff for the generous freebies they’ve been throwing me. With my first order (Ammo, IShine), I got a ToGo of Turn Up The Heat which got me pretty stoked. When I ordered my Instant Openness X2, I wasn’t expecting anything since I’d already gotten a freebie, but when I open my package what do I find? Two freebies! Instant Honesty and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)! Based on the results I’ve gotten so far and the excellent service, you guys got yourselves a customer for life! I also want to thank this community as a whole, since I never would have believed that these things work without reading testimonials from so many people. I already introduced myself, but since this is the journal where I’ll be posting most of my experiences, I’ll do it again. I’m 23 years old, from the east coast of Canada, Halifax to be exact. I graduated from college and basically, I’ve just been screwing around, having fun and working a crappy job since then. I’m about at the stage where I start getting my s\_\_t together and getting a career. What I’m leaning towards is a career in the military as an officer. Personality-wise I like to think that I’m a pretty cool guy. Normally I can get along pretty well with a good variety of people. I do need some alone time every now and then, or I get kind of cranky. I’m an introvert, but I’m not shy or timid. I can play the game and deal with people, and I do like people, but I need time to recharge. Sometimes people do percieve me as intimidating, or even as an asshole, but I don’t think I am. I’m pretty good with women too. I’m not a master, but I can attract my share of good-looking women. What I expect from pheromones, is to amplify all my good points so that I’m consistent in my social interactions because I’m ready to move up in the world. With all that out of the way, I’ll share a few experiences that I’ve had so far: Last weekend: Very blatant hit from two girls that I met outside a club. I didn’t like the club that me and my friends were at and most of them were just standing around holding their drinks against their bellies so I got the hell out of dodge. I was wearing 1.5 sprays of Ammo (wrist & neck) and about 5 sprays of Instant Shine (hair, back of neck). Anyway, these two girls were friends with each other. After a couple of minutes, one of them asked me “can you do me a favour? Kiss me”. Just like that. Then her friend asked me to kiss her. Ridiculous, I know, but it’s true. I’m used to getting hits with no pheromones, but damn, this was blatant as hell! Later on, when I rejoined my friends, the cap got loosened from my Turn Up The Heat bottle and probably about 3-4 sprays worth leaked out and soaked through one of my pockets. I got a few dirty looks, but no major problems, but I think I got the ghost effect. Oh well, it was time to go home at that point anyway. Other than that, the hits that I’ve gotten are just better interactions with my friends and with strangers, particularly female strangers. Pheromones are just that, they’re excellent social lubricants. They’re just the push that I need to go out in this world and take what’s coming to me. I find that with girls, a spray of Ammo and two sprays of Instant Shine are excellent for casual daytime settings. With my friends, Instant Shine really makes a difference. I can’t wait to try out my new stuff though. I want to have one of these famous Instant Honesty/ Instant Openness induced conversations I’ve been reading about! I’ll keep yaz posted. PS, once I get some more funds I really want to try Spaceland, Dirty, but most importantly, some A314. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/2 "2008-05-16T07:28:08Z")
Cool, welcome to the journals section I guess. Keep the reports coming, I intend to check back now and then. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/3 "2008-06-23T21:31:56Z")
Well, it’s been a month or 2 and I’m sold on [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). My personal favorite is Ammo. I get so much interest from women when I wear this stuff that it’s more of an afterthought. I even got asked out once. I also notice that a sizable percentage of guys respect and like me when I have a couple sprays on (maybe the androsterone in it), but there are always a few who seem to feel threatened and try to undermine me. I’m not trying to be alpha anything here, but one thing that really gets my goat is guys who think that they have to take the wind out of another man’s sails to get themselves going. Fortunately, none seems to amplify whatever actions I take, so if I shift gears to being even slightly hostile or angry, the snakes in the grass slither away. It seems that when you wear none, you can expect mostly good, but you have to be prepared to get a little nasty. If someone feels threatened by your presence and you don’t nip their actions in the bud, they’ll work extra hard to turn things against you. If you switch from cool guy to mean bastard in a matter of seconds, then go back to equilibrium just as fast as you snapped, people will generally stay off your back. Don’t know if I want to use Turn Up The Heat, Ammo seems to be plenty potent even with all its buffers. I’ll give one example of pheromones in action. The other night, me and my father, mother aunt and cousin went out to an Italian restaurant for father’s day. I had on 3X Instant Shine, 2 sprays of 2X Instant Openness and 1.5X Ammo. Also, a little squirt of Instant Honesty from my free sample bottle. Conversation was very fluid, there was a lot of it, and it was jovial. My father’s a very difficult man to converse with, but converstation flowed from him naturally as well. There was a waitress there who was pretty attractive who kept shooting me looks and she eventually came by to offer to fill up our water (she wasn’t our waitress) When she poured my water, she seemed to get really nervous and poured water all over the place. Didn’t see her after that or I would have tried to get her number, but that was right before we left. Oh well, maybe next time. Anyway, I ordered another batch of pheros, I just have to wait for stupid Paypal to send the e-cheque. I ordered A314, Shine 2X and Spaceland. I know that Spaceland is a custom product, so if anyone from Androtics is reading this, I promise to make some detailed reports about its effects, and some good combinations with it. I’m really looking forward to getting my hands on some A314. ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/4 "2008-07-04T16:07:05Z")
Alright, I just have to say, a shot of ammo to the chest, 2 shots of A314 to the wrist and 1 to the neck, and a shot of Spaceland is damn powerful. A few months ago I never would have believed that they market products that are this effective. That’s been the best mix so far for the ladies. It’s just raw masculinity and the Spaceland lightens the vibe just enough so that I’m not too intimidating. It’s also great for getting along with other guys, since I’m only wearing 1 shot of Ammo, which also has a good amount of Androsterone in it if I’m not mistaken. As for the socials, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) is my favourite so far. I got some free samples of that stuff and I want to get some 4X for my next purchase. I use Instant Honesty when hanging out with family or good friends. I’m probably going out tonight and I’ll try the same mix. If I’m successful again tonight, then I’ve definitely found my sweet spot. ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 7:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/5 "2008-07-05T07:00:25Z")
I think you should try no more than 1-2 sprays of of Instant Honesty when around family or friends. It’s definitely an area you should tread a little more lightly. In addition, Instant Honesty can have a serious vibe to it that requires you to be very congruent and be able to listen to what people say without judging them. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) doesn’t have this so much. If by chance you ordered Instant Honesty 4x, it’s not that hard to dilute- just spray a little bit in an atomizer and cut it in half or x4 with alcohol and put a few drops (a pipette here is good) of a cologne in the atomizer, and shake well. Diluting and mixing in a carrier isn’t for novices, but it also isn’t rocket science. I’m trying to actually figure out which is better for general social situations, straight alpha-androstenol, Instant Openness, or Instant Honesty (70 percent beta-androstenol). It’s a toss up. The effect isn’t so dissimilar they don’t have some overlap, but there are definite differences. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/6 "2008-07-05T20:39:59Z")
Sounds like you’re coming along just fine. I too, really like Instant Honesty. I use it so often, I sometimes forget what [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) is like (one spray is all I need for a reminder 🙂). I’m not so cautious with the Instant Honesty. 😃 Sometimes I’m like the counselor type, so maybe I’m overly congruent, but I find that IH helps me find the ‘important’ (read: emotionally attached) topics in a persons life. Usually, these conversation threads are very (I mean, VERY) durable. You could bring it up randomly after talking about something totally different, as long as it wasn’t completely out of the blue and you haven’t completely exhausted the topic. Also, if you can find commonality in those threads, even better, not only are you finding common ground, you’re finding common ground on ground that is emotionally important to the individual. ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/7 "2008-07-11T03:36:47Z")
Hmmm, interesting points… On one hand, the A314 is already pretty serious and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) might push it over the edge. On the other hand, there’s probably a use for it too. I can be a counselor sometimes too, but I sometimes come across as being harsh without really meaning too. I guess I’m just kind of blunt. I give good advice though. What’s your favourite dosage for IH? Maybe Instant Honesty would be better to use around people who you’ve already met, but don’t know extremely well. Now I haven’t tested my togo bottle on its own yet, so I’ll have to get on that. “I’m trying to actually figure out which is better for general social situations, straight alpha-androstenol, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) (70 percent beta-androstenol). It’s a toss up. The effect isn’t so dissimilar they don’t have some overlap, but there are definite differences.” I think instead of the IHX4, I’ll just get a bottle of CTTM2. That way I’ll get the effects of both. The androstenol products are a lot more subtle for me, but they definitely make a difference when I add them to a mix. What I’ll have to do, is try them out on their own. At this point, I see them as more like supplemental pheromones. A314 and Ammo is a damn potent mix and the women seem love it, but I always add some androstenol so I won’t alienate or upset the guys. ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 4:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/8 "2008-07-11T04:19:14Z")
I like 1 spray of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 4X, only for keeping the Neroli smell to a minimum. Keeps it simple and sweet. But that’s just basic mixes. If I need to, I can do less/more. IH would be good around anyone you need to get to know better. IO is great for starting bridges, IH will make existing bridges stronger. I haven’t tried CTTM2, but if you use IO and IH separately for a enough time, you’ll feel the difference. CTTM2 might just meld them together, or perhaps might make it easier to distinguish the two, who knows. Either way, more experience with -nols will make it easier to understand each one. ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/9 "2008-07-17T14:50:09Z")
I’ll do this with a better format from now on: Pheromones and Dosage: -A314- 1 to wrists and 1 to neck -[Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)- 1 to each side of neck Self Effects: The usual increased confidence, improved posture and sense of well-being that I feel from A314, minus the aggressive edge that I get when I mix it with Ammo. Nothing from Instant Honesty. Situation: Job Interview for airport security job. Effects on others: The interviewer conveyed a subtle respectful attitude towards me and listened intently to my answers. I didn’t say anything remarkable, I just made sure that my body language correlated with my pheromone signature. I talked about how the safety of passengers during air travel is my #1 priority and I’m interested in doing my part to secure their safety. He said that I came across as a trustworthy guy, seemed very impressed and said that I’d hear back from them early next week, but hinted that I’d get the job. I went to one of those newstands afterwards to get a magazine and the man behind the counter, who must have been at least 35, called me ‘sir’. I filled up at a gas station on the way home and the gas attendant called me sir as well. Conclusion: All three of those I believe were influenced by a314 and the added trusworthines of Instant Honesty. I probably should gte a full bottle of this stuff. More to come… ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/10 "2008-07-17T15:10:47Z")
I’ll start posting my results in a new format: Here’s my general mix: [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) and dosage: -A314-1 drop split between wrists, one drop to each side of my neck. -Ammo- 1.5 sprays to the chest -Spaceland- 1 spray to the hair Setting: -Social settings, generally at nighttime. Self-effects: -A combination of the self-assured sense of calm that I get from A314, along with the aggressive, motivational vibe that I get from Ammo. Spaceland adds a positive twist to this vibe, although on its own I don’t get much from it unless I spray like 5 doses on. Combined, these pheros give a really good self effect. Effects on others: -On females, provided that they’re already attracted to me, it makes conversation flow more smooth and puts it in my frame. It kind of cuts out all the filler and steers things towards the ohysical, proximity gets much closer, IOI’s increase, and once it looks like she has enough attraction, I can go in for the kiss and expect no resistance with this mix. This is at parties and clubs mind you, I wouldn’t try this in a grocery store or dentists office. Anyway, the Ammo gives out kind of a cool and sexual vibe and the A314 adds trust, so you don’t seem like a sleazebag, plus a subtle control of the interaction. Spaceland is there purely as a buffer and to make conversation easier for both of us. -On males, it normally appears to be pretty positive, or neutral. If I engage them and just make conversation, I have no problems. I have noticed dirty looks and some of my friends have made subtle attempts to bring me down to their level, but in general, nothing that can’t be easily dealt with. -Exceptions- The other night I got far too drunk and was being not too agreeable- this mix seemed to amplify my offensiveness in terms of how other people percieved it. Just like when I’m in a good mood, it amplifies that effect as well. My conclusion is that this is my social mix for anything that involves the opposite sex until I find something better. ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/11 "2008-07-31T03:20:00Z")
Just got my order and now I have the real goodies! MX103, P74, a togo of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and best of all I got a free sample of some MX272. What a good surprise, I wanted to get something from that series in my next order anyway and now I have it. God bless ya Amy, and thanks for the tasty chocolate too. I felt bad about being pretty new and ordering advanced products like this, so I promised to put forward a real dedicated and scientific approach to testing these products. What I’ll do is try them out one at a time for a while to get a feel for them, then incorporate them into my A314/ Ammo mix one at a time to see how each one effects that. I hear P74’s real good with A314. Anyway, ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/12 "2008-07-31T03:40:33Z")
😃 Just got my order today after 3 days of monkey business with DHL. Should have gotten it Monday. Whatever, they’ve been good every other time so no love lost. Anyway, I got the real goodies now. A 30 ml bottle of MX103, 30 ml of P74 at 10 micros/ spray, a togo of Ammunition for convenience purposes and a free sample of some MX272! I wanted to order from that series in my next order anyway, so I couldn’t be happier! God bless ya Amy, and thanks for the tasty chocolate too. A tiny bit of the MX272 leaked, the bottle’s still full, so it was just enough for me to get a whiff. That stuff smells incredible, is that the ‘game’ scent? It smells like green apples and Irish Spring. I felt kinda bad about getting really advanced products while not being a bonafide expert yet, so I promised to leave some good, long, scientific reports on them, especially P74. What my plan is, is to test each of them individually one-by-one to get a feel for the effects. What I’ll do next is incorporate each of them into my Ammo/A314 mix one-by-one, then I’ll try them with the socials. I’ve been working like a dog lately and haven’t really been socializing that much. Been feeling kinda down and I think I have the flu or something. Things will be happening in the next month though and I’ll have plenty of good situations for [pheromone](https://a314.com/) testing. Research has never been this much fun! Anyway, keep ya posted. I think I’ll test the MX103 first since things are kinda boring for the time being. ---
**Author:** ![GuySajer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/guysajer/32/446_2.png) [@GuySajer](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GuySajer)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/guys-pheromone-experiences-observations/12688/13 "2008-08-18T14:49:44Z")
Alright, I haven’t really talked too much about the MX103 yet, so I’ll leavea quick report here in the journal about how I use it and the effects that I get. **Dosage:** 2 sprays of MX103 to the throat over 1 dried down drop of A314. The A314 is there for longevity, both of the duration of effects and the duration of the impression that I want to make. **Scent:** Absolutely terrible. Smells like dirty, unwashed feet. The scent goes away after about 15 minutes though. **Self Effects:** Increased confidence and clarity of thought, but my mood takes a very serious tone. I buffer this if I’m going to be in a ‘fun’ situation. It makes me feel like Clint Eastwoods character The Man With No Name. **Effects on Others:** Others keep a respectful distance unless I indicate that they can do otherwise. It’s a much more in-your-face version of A314’s distancing effect, which doesn’t reach the same magnitude unless I apply 4-5 drops. With A314, people don’t necessarily keep their distance, they just make sure that they stay within the boundaries of social etiquette when they interact with me. MX103 unbuffered is an intimidating mix, but I don’t mind that since it eliminates social filler and helps interactions get to the point. With women, it seems to generate a vibe of sexuality even when used on its own, but it does intimidate them. The type of loudmouth ‘attention whores’ who like to make scenes and string guys along seem attracted but very uneasy around me, like they get the feeling that I’m ‘above’ their little games. It hasn’t gotten me laid yet like Ammo, P74 or [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), but then again I haven’t really used it in that context yet. I think that this would be a great component to a sexual mix. **Duration of Effects:** About 4.5 hours, with subtle effects that linger for another hour or 2. With A314, the effects last longer, probably because the MX103 amplifies the first impression and that’s the impression that remains, reinforced by the oil that’s still diffusing. * * *