# Hailing from California

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563>\
**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [January 6, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563 "2009-01-06T09:32:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![kaydeelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kaydeelo/32/1566_2.png) [@kaydeelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kaydeelo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/1 "2009-01-06T09:32:16Z")

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O hi, I’m a 20 year old male from California.

I remember the first time I saw an ad for [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/); I thought it was possibly the biggest gimmick on the web. So I was surprised when I heard good things from my friends and I have been reading bits on this forum since then. I am going to try alpha and ammo mostly out of curiosity. I want to see it for myself, because my ears still don’t believe it. If I’m happy with those two, I want to test out instant shine also. ooo, I also want to peek in the alpha forums.

Hopefully these pheros will live up to my expectations. I hope that they will give me an extra advantage. And if it works, there’s no reason not to have that.

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**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/2 "2009-01-06T09:41:54Z")

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Hello Kaydeelo!  
Welcome to the forum! Here you’re going to meet lot of people happy of helping you on getting teh best from your Pheros! But if you need some help, please give us some more information, as they are very useful to help you at the best. So, what are you thinking to buy? I’m curious! If I may, I suggest you to read the stickies in the mens’ and womens’ forums, as they are very useful.

Ok, keep us updated!

See ya

Franz

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/3 "2009-01-06T09:59:09Z")

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Hey Franz, welcome to the forums! As Franz said, it would be great if you could provide a bit more information for us. Such as what kind of personality do you have, shy or outgoing? Who were you hoping to affect with your pheromones? Friends, colleagues, family, yourself? And where were you planning on wearing them? Work, at home, in a pub? All of these will give us a better idea of what suites your needs, so we can suggest which items work best for you. For example, alot of people your age may get better results from [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) than from A314, especially if they dont give off something of an alpha vibe already. So let’s hear a bit more from you and we’ll see what we can do, mmm?

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/4 "2009-01-06T10:14:11Z")

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Helllo Kay and welcome to the forum.

I think we were all a little skeptical when we first read or heard about these products but we are all still here on the forum because we have found they do work. Now they pheros are not magic by any means - all they do is enhance you. They create suggestions. Most of the work of getting people to act onthose suggestions will still be up to you. But they will give you an edge in your social interactions.

As both Runner and Mr. FG mentioned ti would help to know more about your personality and what you want to do withthe pheromones to see if you are on track with the pheromones you are thinking about purchasing. Both Ammo and A314 are two of the flagship products here but both have usually different purposes in mind although they combine well for general social and romance use. But they can be a little tricky.

Plus once we know this you will qualify for a gift ceertificate you can use towards your first purchase.

It is good to see you here and we hope to hear back from you so we can make sure you are on the right track and get you that gift certificate.

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**Author:** ![kaydeelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kaydeelo/32/1566_2.png) [@kaydeelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kaydeelo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/5 "2009-01-06T10:59:44Z")

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wow you guys reply quickly.

i was just glancing at a post about the meyers-brigg personality test before i came back to this topic. i took that a few years ago and it said i was INTJ. That means I’m an introvert, intuitive, i make decisions by thinking rather then feeling, and i like things planned and organized.  
Humor is a big thing for me. I like to laugh and i like to make others laugh. I also feel like i have a strong sense for creativity. When i grow up, i want to do something that allows me to use my own creativity and judgment. I dont want to do something repetitive and structured. Maybe i just want to feel free baby.  
I’m an introvert, but i’m not shy. I feel like i’m a lot more interested in “what” and when I spend time with people, I like to do activities. People might tell me how they feel about stuff and their issues. rawr IDC!

what do i hope to do with the pheros? nothing particularly. i’m just curious. From the forum, I have my expectations about what the pheros should do. i guess i want to see first hand what they CAN do for me.

Mr. feel good, that’s interesting what you said about instant gent vs alpha. Then i saw the article in boss’s sig. Now I’m a little bit unsure about alpha. From what I had read before, I kind of thought alpha gave off that cool, masculine james bond vibe. I definitely don’t want people to fear me. I haven’t read much on instant gent, but it sounded like it gave off that “nice guy” aura. That’s not me. The entire instant phero line sounds great, but as I am just trying these out for the first time, I’m going by a budget. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and alpha just gets so much praise that i feel like they are the best investments. Please let me know if I’m wrong. I still haven’t purchased yet.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Feel\_Good](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mr.feel_good/32/1148_2.png) [@Mr.Feel\_Good](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mr.Feel_Good)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 11:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/6 "2009-01-06T11:19:39Z")

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Yup, thats one of the advantages of having a world-wide forum of users. There’s always someone up. 😉 As for me… well, one of my jobs is at a 24-hour desk, so i’m just an oddball.

From what you described, i would definitely recommend IG over A314. A314 gives off a vibe that demands respect, but from a distance… Let me try to describe this again. While it will help bring respect and admiration, it will create that alpha vibe that will make people hesitate to approach you. You’ll be the one that will have to initiate all the interactions. IG gives off a smooth, mature vibe that is approachable and more carefree and fun-loving. Since you enjoy humor and playing around alot, i feel IG would suite your personality more. As for the “nice guy” aura, that depends on how you play it, pretty much. If you act like a nice guy, it’ll reinforce the message. If you act like a suave don juan, then it’ll help accentuate your smooth vibe. Coupled with Ammo, it will definately send out a more sexual tone, so i wouldnt be too worried about the nice guy aspect.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/7 "2009-01-06T22:07:10Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

Well fear is to strong a word to use for A314. They wont fear you they will respect you. Be in awe of you. Perhaps feels a little intimidated by you but there is no fear.

I agree with MR, FG that IG would be a better choice for you. You could go with AMMO with it but I suggest Ishine. AMMO already has arone in it. Since you have no objective but like to make people feel happy and laugh I shine would be a good choice.

**Your GC is on its way** 😃

If you have questions just ask.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![kaydeelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kaydeelo/32/1566_2.png) [@kaydeelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kaydeelo)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2009, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/8 "2009-01-07T08:16:13Z")

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Hi. I took what you guys said to heart and ive read a lot on instant gent. It sounds good, esp for my age. I think the name really miscommunicates what users say instagent can do. So now im considering instagent along with a314, ammo, and instashine. Ive gone over my time budget to research these pheros for today. Can you guys help me please?

Here are my condensed thoughts as of now:  
I want the alpha aura but i want people to feel comfortable around me and enjoy my company. It seems like -rone with alpha-nol pheros are what im looking for. I think a sexy touch of -none would be nice, because when girls that i don’t know show interest in me, anyone else who notices because incredibly curious.  
My understanding of instagent is that it is a buffered a314 so that people arent afraid to approach you. No nice-guy effect except for some user reports of being more polite when using instagent.  
Correct/inform me if there is something important that i may not know!

Other questions:  
-Sooo why dont I just get ammo and be done with it? It has -rone, -none, and alpha-nol right?  
-With alpha, what happens if i approach someone that is timid and avoiding EC? Will they still feel uneasy or will it be easy to befriend them?  
-Oh, my body is nice and smooth (Im asian). How does that factor into what pheros are right for me?  
-Im looking to instashine as a sort of buffering phero to the -rone ones, esp if i go with alpha. I know the least about this one though. Any advice?

Can you anyone help me by pointing me to relevant threads?

Hey tisha, whats gc? Am i getting a free bottle of phero???

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**Author:** ![cmurd27](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cmurd27/32/1554_2.png) [@cmurd27](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cmurd27)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2009, 10:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/9 "2009-01-08T10:05:08Z")

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A GC is a giftcard. You get 25$ off your first order with it. Helps take the edge off a little bit. But in the end everything here is worth what you spend. you wont be disappointed!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2009, 10:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/10 "2009-01-09T10:48:17Z")

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Hi

Other questions:  
-Sooo why dont I just get ammo and be done with it? It has -Androsterone, -none, and Alpha [Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) right?

**Ammo is a well rounded product and you can get just that if you wish. We give you a few options to choose from when suggesting products**  
-With alpha, what happens if i approach someone that is timid and avoiding EC? Will they still feel uneasy or will it be easy to befriend them?

**They could be, its up to you to make them feel comfort. The Alpha can make some people nervous. You could use a comforting mone like IO or IFM with it.**

-Oh, my body is nice and smooth (Im asian). How does that factor into what pheros are right for me?

**No it dosnt make a difference**

-Im looking to instashine as a sort of buffering phero to the -Androsterone ones, esp if i go with alpha. I know the least about this one though. Any advice?

**Ishine wouold be great with any anone or arone product.**

Can you anyone help me by pointing me to relevant threads?

**There is a search function at the top of the forum. I also suggest the mens sticky posts at the top of there section.**

Hey tisha, whats gc? Am i getting a free bottle of phero???

**Its a $25 gift certificate that I sent to your email to use in the smartmones store**

Have fun

Tisha

\*\ ***Androstenol** \*\*

Androste **nol** , Sometimes refered to as “nol”, “-nol”.

“Anol” refers to “ **A** lpha” androstenol, while “bnol” refers to “ **B** eta” androstenol.

Alpha androstenol makes most people exposed very chatty, expressive, and even giddy, similar to a glass or two of champagne.

However, like alchohol, not everyone will become more talkative. A few people become less chatty when they drink, and the same thing happens with androstenol, as well.

While some believe androstenol to be a sexual pheromone, we think it’s only part of the equation.

Upon initial exposure, many people will feel elated and somewhat “blank” around the person wearing androstenol. We theorize that since is similar to what people tend to experience around someone they’re attracted to, that the brain can confuse this “blanking” reaction to androstenol with “attraction”.

i.e., androstenol may be “attractive” in a roundabout way. Both body chemistry and psychology are complex.

Mostly we see androstenol as a feel good, communicative pheromone. It’s featured in several of the products from Androtics Research, including “[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/)” and in a high dosage, fun experimental product called “Spaceland” (which intended to capitalize on the “blanking”, spacey effect of high dosage alpha androstenol).

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**Author:** ![kaydeelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kaydeelo/32/1566_2.png) [@kaydeelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kaydeelo)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hailing-from-california/24563/11 "2009-01-11T00:56:48Z")

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So after much consideration, ive bought instant gentleman, ammo, and instant shine.

Im pretty excited about instant gentleman 😃 I got ammo because of the good reviews, but also because i want to experiment with some -none. I got instant shine because i like what people say it does, but i also have low expectations for it because i read a lot of weak feedback too 😕

Thanks for the instant gentleman recommendations! After I feel like i get the hang of these three, ill write some reports. Until then 😛
