# Halloween house party on Instant Shine, CTTM2 and a little IJ: what to change? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 7, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147 "2010-11-07T18:35:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/1 "2010-11-07T18:35:29Z")
Hey everyone, so I’m sure all of you remember the night of Halloween. Little cute kids with their mothers trick or treating from door to door; your childhood memories of dressing up and doing the same thing. Actually I’m sure none of you (or at least the ones of us without kids or marriages) thought of that during Halloween, just as I did, or rather did not. I was having too much fun that night looking at all those “busy bees” and having seen all the wonder from Alice 🙄 Well, on Halloween, I went out to a small house party with my roommate. I wore: 2x instant shine 2x CTTM2 somewhere between .5 and 1.5 sprays of IJ. The reason why it was this odd number of sprays is because I applied them about a block away from the party. The first spray of IJ had gone into the wind, and I think i got some of it but to be sure I sprayed one more of IJ on, but wiped it with a cloth after the application. Not sure how much I got. Anyway, this mix was pretty fun. It’s a little late to report the self effects but it definitely made me feel like the man. I got a girls phone number, lets skip the context. Now I’m 2ish hours away from meeting up with her and hang out with her. This all boils down to a simple question, what should I wear? Concern(s): I wore IJ so she expects this type of vibe from me? IJ+IG+CTTM2+IS = too much? Note: All the [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) I have from AD are below, these are the only pheromones I have (no steaksauce, just AD). IJ also does not have cops as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/2 "2010-11-07T19:01:25Z")
Instant Jerk coulda given the attraction factor that girls love. I think it works great on the initial attraction phase, I don’t find that if you wore 1 spray again, it would hurt. The only thing about IJ and IG that I don’t like is the conflicting signatures. You can keep the Androstenone signature but, I would go with IG + IH for the date, it’ll help deepen the attraction and connection you got. Spray some TUTH underneath your shirt, and toss in some [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) and I think you’ll be good to go. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/3 "2010-11-07T19:02:23Z")
Also Just FYI and reference. AD does not do cops anymore, so unless you got a bottle of IJ from back then, you won’t have cops in your IJ. ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/4 "2010-11-07T19:02:37Z")
Awesome, thanks P51, you’ve always been helpful. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/5 "2010-11-07T19:04:01Z")
Let us know how the date went. Remember, relax, enjoy and have fun Good luck bro ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/6 "2010-11-08T17:58:36Z")
Date went well. She’s a real nice shy Jewish girl so nothing dirty went on , just a good clean date 🙂 The IH might have been… too serious? Things could have been lighter, maybe I’ll do CTTM2 next time. 2 sprays IG sides of neck 2 sprays IH sides/front of neck + 1 spray IH split between wrists (covered the whole time) 2-3 sprays of IS sides/front of neck 1 spray tuth on chest (covered whole time) ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/7 "2010-11-08T18:01:43Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > Date went well. She’s a real nice shy Jewish girl so nothing dirty went on , just a good clean date 🙂 > > The IH might have been… too serious? Things could have been lighter, maybe I’ll do CTTM2 next time. > > 2 sprays IG sides of neck > 2 sprays IH sides/front of neck + 1 spray IH split between wrists (covered the whole time) > 2-3 sprays of IS sides/front of neck > 1 spray tuth on chest (covered whole time) Typically pheromones won’t make things too serious. Also IH doesn’t really have that “too serious” vibe when it comes to the product. I can understand if you had A314 on but you didn’t. How was the comfort factor? How was kino, were there any attraction switches that you turned on? Did you joke around? Did you keep conversations flowing and lighthearted. ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/8 "2010-11-08T18:12:20Z")
Generally these things are things I’m not so great with. When I say too serious, I mean with myself. Perhaps it brings out the serious honesty side in me, and I’m not that great at controlling or being these things. Comfort was good. I don’t want to look into this too much, but after we parted ways I’m pretty sure neither of us really had any uncomfortable moments throughout the whole date; there were quiet moments but the silence wasn’t uncomfortable and now that I look back at it, I thought it was nice we could be quiet around each other. About this attraction switches, I’m not the most in-tune person on this. We joked, laughed, shared stories, walked, sat out in the cold (in Vermont! but it’s not snowing yet haha). I mostly have trouble expressing myself. Kind of like when people say “just be yourself,” I have trouble being myself and this was no exception last night. Not much else to say, but I did have a good time with her. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/halloween-house-party-on-instant-shine-cttm2-and-a-little-ij-what-to-change/43147/9 "2010-11-08T18:14:29Z")
> [@rolandcubed](#): > > Generally these things are things I’m not so great with. When I say too serious, I mean with myself. Perhaps it brings out the serious honesty side in me, and I’m not that great at controlling or being these things. > > Comfort was good. I don’t want to look into this too much, but after we parted ways I’m pretty sure neither of us really had any uncomfortable moments throughout the whole date; there were quiet moments but the silence wasn’t uncomfortable and now that I look back at it, I thought it was nice we could be quiet around each other. > > About this attraction switches, I’m not the most in-tune person on this. We joked, laughed, shared stories, walked, sat out in the cold (in Vermont! but it’s not snowing yet haha). > > I mostly have trouble expressing myself. Kind of like when people say “just be yourself,” I have trouble being myself and this was no exception last night. Not much else to say, but I did have a good time with her. That’s good, the feelings of seriousness might just be internalized. You can try IO or CTTM next time around, but I think you already established a baseline for it. If you go out on a non-traditional date, like somewhere fun and light, go with those socials. If its a traditional date, then stick with IH IME, and IMO.