# Hangin Pheros in the Business World **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 26, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265 "2008-12-26T15:35:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/1 "2008-12-26T15:35:41Z")
I’m 22, fresh into corporate america at a financial firm that has yet to collapse. These are some entries I have written myself as I’ve gone along and tested pheros for the first time at my new career. Here I’ve been put on an assignment and I work closely with a blonde girl my age. We literally sat side by side. I throw in parenthesis where I think the pheros hit. 12/16/08 1x instant gentleman 1x ammo Half spray instant shine to each side of neck Half spray on CTTM2 to each side of neck .5 – 1 drop of A314 The blonde thought I was hilarious. This is the first day we’ve been put on the assignment together. She quotes I am (IS)“Too much fun being sober” She also said somewhere during the day she said I was “laid back”. (IG) We talked alot throughout the day even though she was swamped with work. (CTTM2) One of her managers asked me how we were moving along and I said we were "moving along slowly but surely” and he returned with this crazy reply saying how “I managed his expectations and I’m going somewhere young man” (A314 + IG). When I went into his office later for a quick question, he asked me to sit down. Even though it was a few seconds of necessity. (A314 + IG + maybe CTTM2) ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/2 "2008-12-26T15:44:32Z")
The Boss from HELL I have a few more minutes right now so I’m going to throw in an intro. My direct boss is from another country, just came over to the U.S. this year. His family is still back at home. To his superiors, he is pleasing. He smiles, talks to them nicely. Laughs alot. So I think this is going to be a nice relationship. He seems like a really cool guy. UNTIL … we sit down. For the first time he is semi-nice explaining things to me to get me up to speed. AFTERWARDS, ever since he has stuck to his culture I would say. Which is Indian. Since it is asian, I am asian, I may understand the hierarchical nature of the culture. He becomes literally, my superior. The company where I work at focuses on “people.” Most of our managers, even though they are our superiors, treat us like equals. But suddenly my boss is just like do this do that … like I’m a slave. Not what I expected … One day … it’s 5:30. I notice there’s no one in the office. I really don’t have much work or any at all. I am waiting on other people to reply to me, and it’s not urgent. It can be completed the next day. It’s not 6:30. 7 … And I finally go into his office to CLEARLY see that he is not there again, and ALSO without his jacket and laptop there. I call him on the cell … chit chat for a few seconds and I ask him if he’s still in the office. He says … “No .. actually I’m not. You know what … we can wrap it up for today.” The experiments … to be continued ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/3 "2008-12-26T17:06:08Z")
I started workin with my manager before I was assigned to work with the girl I have been reporting on. My mix then was the same as listed above minus the A314. After a few days of his BS, I thought maybe some A314 would help me in this situation so I started out with half a drop. He is noticeably stunned the first day I am wearing it. It hits him and it has gotten to the point before this where he just tells me what to do and barely gives me the respect of looking me in the eyes. Today he is looking at me in the eyes again. Next day is with 1 drop of A314. The good trend continues, he is actually looking my way and looking away to break the eye contact for a while. He tells me good work again at the end of the day. 😮 He is more accepting of beginner mistakes. Doesn’t get so crazy over them. By the end of the week, he actually trusts me and treats me like a human being again. A person at his level you could say. Another person is assigned to my project, the girl. She is the same level as me, and soon I am put in charge of her. 😮 A314 … what a business godsend ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/4 "2008-12-26T17:10:04Z")
Good report. Congratulations for your good results. Keep up the reporting ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/5 "2009-01-19T03:02:54Z")
One night I’m out at dinner with my boys from college. We’re all at different financial firms now. What I had on that night was 1.5x AMMO game scented split between the wrists and chest. The one thing I noticed was a lot of “alpha aggression” as it has been referred to and these guys aren’t typically like that. They are my good friends from college, whom I’ve lived with at least a year. The presence of a old female friend who now significantly looks hotter may also play a factor. While it was still all friendly, if I really had to put my finger on it, we were all trying to out do each other. Such as being funny, striking interesting conversations, loud. It was a real strange change for the night. We’re usually alot more cohesive as a group. It’s as if the unbuffered ammo struck up a needs in my friends to overcompensate in the presence of more -none, 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/6 "2009-01-19T03:09:17Z")
Another night I just remembered I was also out with the guys and there were girls around. This time, the girls were not so hot. I had on 1.5 X ammo + 1.5x p74 12.5 mcg. Everything was just so much more chill. I was complemented by a girl that I smelled nice. This is the first compliment i’ve gotten on ammo, GAME scented. In fact, it’s the first compliment i’ve really heard since i’'ve finally cut the LAST strings with my gf of 3 years. So i ignored it and asked her how she was? She then said I don’t listen to her when she speaks … and blah balh blah … lesson learned. Thank you. The guys were alot more relaxed like they usually are and even more so. I put on A314 earlier in the workday 12 hours ago so I don’t think it had any more affect. My boys seemed even more interested in what I had to say then usual. The ladies were receptive. They listened to my stories and me striking up hellos. A girl who had to walk by me to get to the restroom from my table later got close and introduced herself to me. p74 does wonders at chilling people out and is actually probably the BEST social phero imo. it covers the none well and complements ammo especially. i’ve been using this winner . AMMO + [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/7 "2009-01-19T03:16:18Z")
when i’m stoned, it just feels so good to add a spray of MEO-EST or spaceland. Spaceland really brightens up a chilled high situation and gives it another burst of energy. It’s essentially the liquid form of energy being sprayed into the room. MEO-EST zones me out on one thing and you don’t even realize it. Then you finally just snap out of it and realize damn … Is MEO-EST a … what is the word. magnifier? It really puts a subtle smile and hapiness in me. Guess who’s had an awesome day and night before giving it my all to keep my job in the recession? 😃 In the times where I really can’t afford to, spaceland x2, x3, x4 really do a number of you. A number of loss of focusedness and really just … spaceyyy. The product does what its description says and it AWESOME! ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/8 "2009-01-19T03:44:52Z")
Once there was an opportunity to work on a top notch financial institution as a client. There were 3 of us selected to interview to decide the best fit to take on the opening role at the client. That morning, my mix was. .5 A314. 1 CTTM2 1 IS 1 IG 1.5 TAF 12.5 mcg The above minus taf is really what I wear on a normal basis to work if and when I feel like it. However, I had JUST got in TAF and I’ve been reading all these good things. With one spray, I have been doing good. As I was sitting on the bus wearing TAF I became aware that I was just focused and mesmerized by things I had not looked at for years such as signs of stores on the route and little details of the roofing in the bus and it’s design. Just really makes you feel like a child again and you can enjoy and see things with a nudeness that you have piled layers of experience over. It’s fantastic and makes you really appreciate the things in life that I tend to forget about because I often get so caught up moving forward in the world that I was smacked into a relaxed position where I understand could appreciate the things that made me happy again. However, today with extra TAF on me because I decided why not. My brain had become completely scattered. Everything was so new I suppose that I just couldn’t really understand the whole picture of what was going on. I was grasping just to understand what my interviewer would say and my conversationing I still can’t really describe because I couldn’t focus on that enough. Brainpower was CRUSHED. It’s really a drug for the mind type of thing. In the right dosage, it does wonders to open you up. In OD dosages, your brain becomes a dangerous mess. I didn’t get that good opportunity. 😛 What a failure … even with mones. In fact, lots of TAF + me = failure. I’ve heard that TAF can help get other people focused on you, especially in a1 on 1 setting. I will be looking to test this out. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rovot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rovot/32/5179_2.png) [@Rovot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rovot)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/9 "2009-01-19T04:04:28Z")
Awesome read. I’m waiting for my shipment with a314 to start wearing at the office. ---
**Author:** ![snakeeyesontheparadise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snakeeyesontheparadise/32/791_2.png) [@snakeeyesontheparadise](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snakeeyesontheparadise)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/10 "2009-01-19T09:09:12Z")
Looking forward to trying out some TAF when I hopefully get my hands on it in my next order. Great journal so far, BTW. ---
**Author:** ![SCoupe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/scoupe/32/2101_2.png) [@SCoupe](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SCoupe)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/11 "2009-01-19T17:56:31Z")
Reps to you … some excellent reporting ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/12 "2009-01-19T23:47:27Z")
Once I went over to hang out my friend Liz let’s call her at her place. We met a long time ago on a cruise. We’ve spoken here and there and have probably seen each other once every year or less. This Friday we were goin to her place to catch up and get smashed. It turns out that her bf didn’t go out with his friends that night, possibly because it was cold, maybe because he was jealous. My mix was 1x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) GAME 1x IH 1x IS 1x p74 Obviously awkward… I mean, if I were the bf I wouldn’t want to just be hangin out with one other guy. So I casually hung out for a while, I had no intentions of anything but friends with Liz, but I still wore ammo. My thoughts were to add to the attractiveness factor anyway. Because you never know, she may have good looking friends who are single right? When he was around, still weird, kind of. Even though I gave a good portion of my attention to the bf for a while. Conversing. When he was gone, the convo between me and liz flowed. Having a good time, we were laughing like crazy. Later found out after I left that the bf usually doesn’t open up at all to her friends and is usually really distant and cold. This night I learned that once again p74 especially is awesome in ALL situations. A bf that usually doesn’t open up to his girl’s friends opened up more to me. He actually went after this girl Liz many years back after he found out I was talking to liz more. I’m sure IS helped keep the situation light. BAD thing is that she had a dog. A BIG dog. And this dog … liked to “playfully” bite. The ammo was split b/w my wrists. All I can say is this dog wouldn’t leave me the FCK alone. My hands were damn red and gnawed into. We muzzled him, after he calmed down, we took it off and he was AT IT AGAIN. This happened multiple times. I’m thinking NONE is not a good one to wear around animals who “playfully” bite. 🆒😕🆒😮😠 I couldn’t happily put on workout gloves for days. ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 12:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/13 "2009-01-20T00:01:55Z")
The first time I EVER wore ammo to work, I wore 1x shot to the chest, ammo scented. It was fairly warm out. I was wearing a beater underneath my dress shirt. Or maybe it was a thin-undershirt out. On the train, in NYC it is tightly packed. These two ladies who were packed in near me, 1 blonde and 1 brunette. At least 8’s, 9’s. Hot. I may be biased because they were in business wear too and I happen to find that sexy. But they were pretty. Now this usually doesn’t happen like THAT. These ladies were DIHL. They kept looking at me, and away, then in my direction again, and away. It was blatantly obvious that they were staring at me and - I had a LT GF at the time so I was faithful - I was in such SHOCK that I had no CLUE what to do I felt like a piece of sexy meat … and it felt good. Haha I’m really not THAT good looking. And also, I’m asian. I tend to get a lot more IOI’s from asian women than blondes and brunettes. Especially blondes that I find it. AMMO can really do miracles taking into account the right dosage, diffusion, and who the receptor. ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 12:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/14 "2009-01-20T00:19:01Z")
On a different train of thought, AMMO doesn’t produce those results for me on a normal basis. AMMO hits are usually a lot more subtle and I wish I could get it to be more DIHL obvious. I’m thinking that now it is colder. Cold = slower diffusion What if, because it’s cold, we add more ammo to the regular mix so that??? More Ammo + slower diffusion = about the regular amount of pheromone diffused as in temperate temperature Also, there is a lot of talk about spraying [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) to the chest. With TAF, Spaceland, MEO-EST where I look for self-effects, I find it a fantastic place to spray. I spray ammo on the chest because I don’t want to smell ridiculous at work. Thanks for all kind words guys. It’s greatly appreciated. 🙂 Now for the question …. DOES pheromone diffusion suffer UNDER clothing? I’ve tried to search on the forums with failure to find the answer. I feel that I’ve found it said somewhere that it is the same, but why or how could it be? ---
**Author:** ![chasm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/chasm/32/2121_2.png) [@chasm](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chasm)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/15 "2009-01-20T06:53:55Z")
Clothing slows the diffusion down. It’s harder for the mones to diffuse around you through your clothes. good journal ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/16 "2009-01-21T03:17:49Z")
10/08 I’m just beginning work and I just got my bottles of pheromones. I’m going through though 2.5 weeks of training with a class of about 25 people my age. My mix was 1 drop A314 1x shine Today was the first day, i thought it was fantastic. Everyone was real friendly to each other of course because no one knew each other and we were all starting out on this journey in a big company together. I had met just about everyone that day either by introducing myself or people coming up to me and introducing themselves. I thought this especially might have been because of A314. I had interned at this company previously last year and with my peers I was really at the bottom of the “social” group but not fitting into the “loners and isolated” people. Looking back on it this was partly due to my lacking in being able to communicate at a personable level in a professional environment and maybe just lacking in ability to communicate with such a new diverse group of people. I found them a lot more receptive today. This may be A314 talking. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/17 "2009-01-21T03:20:46Z")
10/08 The end of the first week of training has begun and things have been fairly normal. We sit around in a room and get trained so socializing is only during breaks. As people are slowly getting to know each other better, I’m beginning to think whether A314 is such a good idea to be wearing around peers. Or maybe if I step it up a notch with A314 as I’ve seen some others on the forums do its effects will multiply. We will see! ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/18 "2009-01-21T03:44:25Z")
Week 2 of Training: Staying constant with my mix of 1 A314 1 Shine I feel that I am getting all the hellos and good mornings but they really don’t go much farther than that. I’m getting the feeling of being alienated or on a different wavelength than everyone else. So I tried 2 A314 2 Shine and 1 A314 2 Shine The results were really the same for me. I’m not the main man to be talked to. With 2x A314, i feel it’s practically the same. 1 day there were no seats at a table at lunch and someone I didn’t know well got up from his chair, gave it to me and went away to get one for himself again. 😮 Sure, this is great. But at the end of this week I still feel alienated. As a matter of fact, I have began to become **self-conscious** with A314. The exact opposite effect that I think I am supposed to have. Maybe it’s because I have on pheros and I think its some form of trickery or unrightful aid. It’s probably also that people aren’t being as friendly as they once were and it’s beginning to get to me. I had a team presentation and I found myself stumbling ALL over my words like a complete ass. 🆒 As I was listening to myself speak, I could not understand them. I also made a huge mistake distributing my teams presentation to the entire training class in a competition like setting and also to the trainers of the program because I beleived in myself so much (confidence) that I didn’t double check my moves. I have made a mockery of myself with A314. ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/19 "2009-01-21T03:53:54Z")
Last week of training: i walk into training on Monday and i’m embarresssed like i’ve never been before. ☹ Just as a reference point, I have won a large team business competitions before speaking in front of hundreds of peers and a panel of judges. So when I went out like an ass last week, I hit an all time low. 😠 I can literally feel everyone’s embarressment for me on Monday. No one really wants to say anything about it and its pure awkwardness. This distances me even more. It’s like this guy thinks he’s great and all that, and maybe he is. And maybe he is especially because we don’t talk to him as much and don’t know anything. UNTIL … he proves he is completely INCOMPETENT. I am frightened to lose ANY more value at the firm as I think my value has already dropped tremendously, so I’m scared as shit to wear any less A314. Though I have read on the forums that people split drops of A314, my results with 1 to 2 drops have been a failure. Monday was fine. Nothing particularly bad. I will go forth this week testing A314. ---
**Author:** ![hangin420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/35a633/32.png) [@hangin420](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hangin420)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265/20 "2009-01-21T04:00:29Z")
October 2008 Last week of training: .5 A314 1x Shine Behavioral feedback has hit me in a negative way. I am struggling to maintain relationships as it seems that everyone now thinks lowly of me. Plus I’m still really new to pheromones and regretting that I decided to try them out at my new job. Instead of shooting me forward to the top it has knocked me straight to the bottom. I am still self conscious as I don’t feel like I belong. I feel no longer above everyone, but instead below and struggling. When I do small presentations, I still struggle and my voice quivers. Why? I don’t know, but I just can’t snap out of it. Where I was invited out to happy hour last week and had people receptive when I joined them or their circle to talk, it’s alot rarer now. I wasn’t invited out to happy hour by the “social” crowd you could say. A type of crowd I’ve become accustomed to at college. Its funny being on other side watching and hearing people make plans so close by to you, but they just don’t say anything to you. 😕 You feel like shit. I’m pretty much alone in this training class. I’ve got to change my game quick because clicks are forming and I’m not about to be a loner. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/hangin-pheros-in-the-business-world/24265.md?page=2)